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Passenger

(217 posts)
Sun May 2, 2021, 09:32 PM May 2021

Decayed Corpse of 'Cult' Leader Found in Colorado HQ

Decayed Corpse of ‘Cult’ Leader Found in Colorado HQ

DENVER—Several members of a bizarre spiritual group called “Love Has Won” have been taken into custody after the badly decaying body of the group’s leader was found in its headquarters.

Amy Carlson, 45, whose followers call her “Mother God,” was found dead in a mobile home in Casada Park, west of Crestone. Saguache County Sheriff’s deputies and Colorado Bureau of Investigation detectives found the self-proclaimed “divine being” of the group after a tip-off from a member who told them her body had been transported to Colorado from across the country.

The death and its connection to Love Has Won—which law enforcement and ex-members have previously called a “cult”—were first reported by Be Scofield.

While being interviewed by law enforcement, the group would not use the word “deceased,” when referring to Carlson’s death, according to a source familiar with the case. They claimed Carlson was not dead, but was merely “out of communication.”

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Decayed Corpse of 'Cult' Leader Found in Colorado HQ (Original Post) Passenger May 2021 OP
Is she pining for the fjords? struggle4progress May 2021 #1
She's never died before. FSogol May 2021 #2
Barnham was only partly right. There is more than one born every day. nt joetheman May 2021 #3
I thought he said every minute rpannier May 2021 #19
Barnum did say "A sucker is born every minute." ShazzieB May 2021 #30
Too bad Delarage May 2021 #4
I think Junior plans on having him stuffed and mounted when the big day comes. Buns_of_Fire May 2021 #5
Trump would be the type to ask and do the Lenin treatment riversedge May 2021 #8
I think a round of the small-town county fairs and carnivals is appropriate. NBachers May 2021 #13
Or bury him near the water's edge at Mar-a-Lago. calimary May 2021 #15
It's illegal to dump toxic waste in the ocean, isn't it? nt Wicked Blue May 2021 #33
Good point! calimary May 2021 #36
This is going to be the Qbots when Dear Leader keels over his golden commode. Maru Kitteh May 2021 #6
He's already pre-embalmed his own fat ass Blue Owl May 2021 #26
Carlson claimed she had been trying to save humanity for 19 billion years Celerity May 2021 #7
I am coming to the frightening realization... skypilot May 2021 #10
The majority of people are easy to brainwash and/or exert reflexive control over. Celerity May 2021 #12
I would really hope that... skypilot May 2021 #17
Oh, I am not saying brainwashed to this extraordinary cult level. Sorry if I made it sound like that Celerity May 2021 #18
PHEW!!! skypilot May 2021 #20
45 is awfully young... Pachamama May 2021 #11
Thoughts and prayers to Tucker and family. Midnight Writer May 2021 #9
Crestone Cult Love Has Won Leaves Man to Die in Desert Judi Lynn May 2021 #14
Jesus Christ on a cracker. SergeStorms May 2021 #22
They'd have to be addled, from one substance or another, or simply insane not to see through it! Judi Lynn May 2021 #25
Most cults use sleep deprivation and malnutrition Warpy May 2021 #28
That's how the Moonies do it Wicked Blue May 2021 #34
Yikes and ewwww. Laffy Kat May 2021 #16
Ditto here! ailsagirl May 2021 #23
Dangerously stupid rickyhall May 2021 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius May 2021 #24
makes total sense certainot May 2021 #27
Dr. Phil did a show on this cult! ShazzieB May 2021 #29
Another real eye-opener into how gullible people can be is Heaven's Gate. LuckyLib May 2021 #31
Are you a god? Renew Deal May 2021 #32
I thought they buried Rush months ago n/t maxrandb May 2021 #35
Monty Python sketches weren't meant to play out in real life. Mr. Scorpio May 2021 #37

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
30. Barnum did say "A sucker is born every minute."
Mon May 3, 2021, 12:41 AM
May 2021

That may have been true in his time, but these days it's more like every second, as you pointed out.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
5. I think Junior plans on having him stuffed and mounted when the big day comes.
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:19 PM
May 2021

Or maybe, given his ties to Russia, he's already signed up for the Lenin treatment.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
15. Or bury him near the water's edge at Mar-a-Lago.
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:21 PM
May 2021

There'll soon be enough of a rise in sea level from the climate crisis he ignored that the ocean will soon claim him for its own.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
36. Good point!
Fri May 7, 2021, 01:07 PM
May 2021

If anybody qualifies as toxic waste, it’d be him. The continued hair chemicals and heavy bronzer face-makeup alone would fit that description.

Not even counting the chemicals he ingests - from fast food and various kinds of suspected drug use.

Maru Kitteh

(31,761 posts)
6. This is going to be the Qbots when Dear Leader keels over his golden commode.
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:25 PM
May 2021

"Out of communication."


That's hilarious.






Blue Owl

(59,106 posts)
26. He's already pre-embalmed his own fat ass
Mon May 3, 2021, 12:21 AM
May 2021

With all that McD’s processed junk... and the daily orange make up and hairdo are open-casket ready...

Celerity

(54,408 posts)
7. Carlson claimed she had been trying to save humanity for 19 billion years
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:29 PM
May 2021

She drank ten shots of vodka a night. When she would drink at night she would lose her cognitive abilities. She would fall and walk into walls.

skypilot

(9,128 posts)
10. I am coming to the frightening realization...
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:35 PM
May 2021

...that it is much too easy to start a cult these days.

Celerity

(54,408 posts)
12. The majority of people are easy to brainwash and/or exert reflexive control over.
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:04 PM
May 2021

I see it everywhere I go, both via my global travels and on the internet. DU is certainly not immune, although thankfully to a lesser degree than most chatboards, despite the efforts of some.

skypilot

(9,128 posts)
17. I would really hope that...
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:26 PM
May 2021

...the MAJORITY of people are not easy to brainwash. That is a scary thought. I would concede that people can be swayed to think/feel one way or another about any number of things (myself included) but I just don't get the phenomenon where people devote themselves completely to someone who is obviously so flawed and/or corrupt.

Celerity

(54,408 posts)
18. Oh, I am not saying brainwashed to this extraordinary cult level. Sorry if I made it sound like that
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:34 PM
May 2021

Pachamama

(17,564 posts)
11. 45 is awfully young...
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:01 PM
May 2021

But 10 shots of Vodka nightly can make that possible...

Yikes....

Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
14. Crestone Cult Love Has Won Leaves Man to Die in Desert
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:20 PM
May 2021


WRITTEN BY BE SCOFIELD• JULY 23, 2020• 3:01 PM• CULTS

  • The family of Alex Whitten says he was brainwashed and left to die in the desert of Colorado by a bizarre cult called Love Has Won.

  • A group of mothers has banded together in support of their children impacted by the group.

  • Ex-members say the leader, Amy Carlson, has sex with her followers, drinks heavily, uses drugs, only allows them to sleep 3–4 hours per night, verbally abuses members, and rations their food.

  • Members believe that the cult leaders are Mother God and Father God and have spent 19 billion years trying to save the planet. A final “ascension” is imminent.

  • Members are punished by being sent to live in “Desolation Row,” a barren spot in the woods where they are forced to fend for themselves.

  • The leader claims that Donald Trump is her father. Deceased actor Robin Williams is listed as a “team member.” They believe he is Archangel Zadkiel. Group members claim to be in regular contact with Williams’ ghost and believe he is supporting their mission.

  • The cult leaders have conned members out of their trust funds, cars, disability & social security checks, and large sums of money.

  • Tommie Hilfiger’s ex-wife Susie followed the group and almost gave them a blank check to support their mission.

  • Crestone Colorado is a “vortex” known as the “spiritual mecca” of the US with more ashrams, temples, and Buddhist centers than anywhere else. The area was the most sacred healing grounds for Native American tribes around the country.

    More:
    https://gurumag.com/crestone-cult-love-has-won-leaves-man-to-die-in-desert/



    https://www.thegardenisland.com/w


    ~ ~ ~

    WRITTEN BY BE SCOFIELD• SEPTEMBER 7, 2020• 4:07 PM• ARTICLES, CULTS

    Love Has Won Cult Kicked Off Kauai After Fleeing Crestone



    Love Has Won cult leader Amy Carlson, who claims to be Jesus, was kicked off of Kauai after locals protested her cult for three days. Carlson yelled “I”m Pele” at the locals and her members claimed the protestors were practicing voodoo and witchcraft. Kauai Mayor Derek Kawakami spoke to the cult leaders and addressed the protestors.

    By BE SCOFIELD / Bio

    September 7th, 2020

    After several days of protesting, Kauai residents were able to force out a bizarre cult called Love Has Won. The group recently moved to a beach vacation rental in Wainiha after fleeing from Crestone, Colorado when they were exposed by the Guru Magazine. About 15 members had flown to Kauai and were in various phases of the mandatory 14-day quarantine.

    Maui 24/7 reported that the two cult leaders flew to Maui Sunday evening but Maui Mayor Mike Victorino told them they were not welcome and offered them flights to San Francisco which they accepted. The Garden Island reported that the remaining 15 cult members received a police escort from the Kauai Inn to the airport.



    Love Has Won cult members receiving a police escort to the Kauai airport

    Kauai Mayor Derek Kawakami visited with leaders from the cult on Saturday. Speaking to a crowd of people gathered in front of the cult’s vacation rental, he said he told the leaders they’d face the same type of resistance anywhere on the island. He also said he offered the group assistance to leave the island. “I do not want them to move from this neighborhood to another neighborhood,” he told the group.



    Kauai Mayor Derek Kawakami speaks with protestors after talking with Love Has Won cult leaders

    More:
    https://gurumag.com/love-has-won-cult-kicked-off-kauai-after-fleeing-crestone/
  • SergeStorms

    (20,591 posts)
    22. Jesus Christ on a cracker.
    Sun May 2, 2021, 11:49 PM
    May 2021
    These people are seriously deranged. I've seen some looney cults in my life, but these bozos take the cake! How absolutely desolate can your life be to believe this load of horse shit? Wow. 🤯

    Judi Lynn

    (164,124 posts)
    25. They'd have to be addled, from one substance or another, or simply insane not to see through it!
    Mon May 3, 2021, 12:03 AM
    May 2021

    Warpy

    (114,615 posts)
    28. Most cults use sleep deprivation and malnutrition
    Mon May 3, 2021, 12:35 AM
    May 2021

    to keep their members too spaced out to do much serious thinking.

    It's how they maintain control.

    This was one of the worst.

    I'm glad their god on earth died and rotted on schedule. I just wonder what the autopsy is going to show. Maybe it will wake a few of them up---after they've slept in for a few weeks and have gotten their equilibrium back. I'm just glad they didn't join her. Yet.

    Wicked Blue

    (8,868 posts)
    34. That's how the Moonies do it
    Mon May 3, 2021, 08:49 PM
    May 2021

    It breaks down resistance and the ability to think critically

    Laffy Kat

    (16,952 posts)
    16. Yikes and ewwww.
    Sun May 2, 2021, 11:22 PM
    May 2021

    Did her cult members actually believe they could pray her back to life? It wasn't clear in the article if the children were in the house with her remains. The gullibility of some people never ceases to amaze me.

    Response to Passenger (Original post)

    ShazzieB

    (22,590 posts)
    29. Dr. Phil did a show on this cult!
    Mon May 3, 2021, 12:36 AM
    May 2021

    Some things about this cult rang a bell with me, so I googled:

    "On September 14th and 15th the Dr. Phil Show season premiere was about the Love Has Won cult. Based on the original reporting of The Guru Magazine founder Be Scofield the show featured leader Amy Carlson and her mother and sisters. Cult expert Rick Ross also appeared. The episode happened after Scofield reached out to the Dr. Phil show and worked with the producer."

    If you have the time and inclination, you can watch the whole thing here: https://www.lovehaswonexposed.com/dr-phil-love-has-won

    The website https://www.lovehaswonexposed.com/ has lots more info as well.

    EDITED TO ADDThe above Dr, Phil episode is from 2020 (I think). Amy and some of her followers are interviewed remotely and appear on screen. If you want to know what kind of a person she was and/or what kind of followers a person like this is able to attract, you may find this informative.

    LuckyLib

    (7,052 posts)
    31. Another real eye-opener into how gullible people can be is Heaven's Gate.
    Mon May 3, 2021, 03:08 AM
    May 2021

    Netflix -- Heaven's Gate: The Cult of Cults
    'Heaven's Gate: The Cult of Cults' is a 4-part docuseries that tells the tale of the largest mass suicide on American soil and the 20-plus-years' journey of the religious cult's members and the charismatic, if unhinged, leaders of the group – Do and Ti.

    Same story -- able to separate folks from their senses, their families, and their money.

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