Half Native American And Republican???

[Dirty Socialist]

I jnew a girl in high school. She is half Cherokee. I recently checked her out on Facebook and she had some pro-Trump messages on her timeline. How is this even possible?

[secondwind]

1. Ignorance

[Cobalt Violet]

5. who? The op or 1/2 of Native Americans.

Do you assume this person knows their shit because they have 1 friend who says they're Cherokee?

[pnwmom]

11. Your added word changed the meaning. The OP didn't say "1/2 ***of*** Native AmericanS."

The OP said, Half Native American (not a plural.)

The OP was referring to one individual person, not half of all Native Americans.

[Journeyman]

2. The answer may be in Paul Simon's "The Boxer" . . .

All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

[Cobalt Violet]

6. yeah probably the OP though.

Disgusting Smear against a group that it's apparently fine to smear.

[Dirty Socialist]

10. You got it wrong

Don’t be so touchy

[Cobalt Violet]

14. where is your proof that 1/2 Native Americans are Republican.

You're the one being touchy and insulting and spreading lies. You don't get to dictate my reaction to your lies.

[obamanut2012]

17. They didn't say that at all in their OP

[Cobalt Violet]

19. well it kind of jibberish and hysterical. Why so many ?????????

Pretty bigoted.

[pnwmom]

30. You keep misreading the OP, to the point that you added an "of" that wasn't there.

The OP wasn't talking about "many" people. He was obviously talking about a single individual the OP knows, who has one parent who is Native American, which makes that person half-Native American and half-something else. That mixed-race person is a Trump supporter.

[Cobalt Violet]

4. 1 person is half for Indigenous Americans?

stop spreading hatred and lies.

[pnwmom]

7. "Half Native American" usually would mean that one parent is Indigenous and one isn't.

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Or that two grandparents are Indigenous and two aren't.

Why are you objecting to that?

[Dirty Socialist]

9. Father Cherokee. Mother not.

[Dirty Socialist]

8. Here's the deal

I am mot trying to smear anyone. I am saying that the way Trump (mis) treated Native Americans, wildlife, and the environment, I don’t see how one can possibly tolerate him. She should know better!

[Cobalt Violet]

20. I'd worry more about your own race's support of him.

But okay project if all on Native Americans if you want.

[obamanut2012]

18. Are you purposely twisting what the OP said

Or do you actually not understand what they said??? They said nothing of the sort.

[Hortensis]

12. Conservative personality. Conservative culture. Conservatives

react to the world with different emotions than people of liberal personality/culture. They feel right down to their guts things that are important and necessary, and they're not all the same things liberals do.

Attitudes toward equality are reportedly the single biggest difference; they tend to believe that social hierarchies are natural and healthy. I remember how surprised I was when I realized conservative friends weren't only comfortable with being advantaged over those less well off but also comfortable and accepting of the greater powers and privileges people higher on the scale have in turn over them.

Conservatives in general also tend to have a darker view of humanity than liberals, believing people will behave badly if allowed. They believe in a natural order that rewards virtue and industry and punishes lack of it and that government interference causes problems, doesn't just solve them. They tend to value conformity more, and also the need to protect the rights of the community over the individual more.

On the plus side, difficult as it may be to believe these days, psychologists say our similarities are far, far stronger than differences.

Your old school mate is conservative.

[luckone]

13. See Rep Yvette Herrell from NM and also multiple reps from OK

Herrell is first Republican Native woman in Congress,and the first Cherokee woman in Congress but here is article about some male repug cherokee in Congress

https://www.hcn.org/issues/51.21-22/indigenous-affairs-this-cherokee-congressman-is-for-trump-and-indian-country

[Cobalt Violet]

15. so he is the other 1/2?

[luckone]

31. No I'm sorry for the way I stated it -the link is about other native reps who are republican

And one featured republican in the link is Chickasaw not Cherokee .
I was replying to the OP who expressed surprise at the existence of republicans among the Cherokee voters

I forgot when I posted also about Kevin Stitt(R) the governor of OK who is Cherokee tribal member and the linked article starts with its focus on US Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) and talks about Cherokee membership ..

“Mullin is also white-passing. The Cherokee Nation has never required a minimum blood quantum for tribal membership, and as a result we are the largest tribe in the country. That means we also have the largest diaspora, as well as the widest spectrum of political, cultural and racial identities. Like most Indigenous voters, Cherokees have historically voted Democrat. But as the last elections for tribal chief showed, there are many vocal Cherokee Republicans. Mullin is an ultra-conservative, white-passing Cherokee who has been an advocate for both tribal sovereignty and for encouraging tribes to assert that sovereignty by allowing private energy production on their lands. That duality has caused many to ask: Is Markwayne Mullin good or bad for Indian Country?

Cherokee politics are complicated. They always have been. Our tribe has a history of being internally divided by villages as well as ideals. When Europeans first encountered the Cherokee in the 16th century in the southeastern part of the continent, the tribe spoke three different dialects spread across five settlements, each comprising several towns.
Today, families still hold resentments from betrayals that preceded the Trail of Tears, and tribal elections can be cutthroat and deeply personal. Our leaders have been lobbying in the halls of Congress and the White House for hundreds of years now.
Mullin is but one in a long line of influential, and complicated, Cherokee politicians and diplomats.

Other Cherokee citizens I spoke to see him as a tribal member who invokes citizenship only for political gain — also a common criticism of the state’s governor, Kevin Stitt, another Republican, white-passing Cherokee Nation citizen. But others argue that Mullin has grown into his role as an Indian lawmaker. Having a tribal citizen in Congress is a good thing, they say, for better or worse; at least he understands what sovereignty and treaty rights really mean“

[obamanut2012]

16. The Cherokee folks in NC and OK are almost always GOP for some reason

Especially the people in NC. I have never understood it.

[Dirty Socialist]

25. Thank You

I guess some things can’t be explained

[obamanut2012]

28. You're welcome

I don't get the flack you are getting from your OP.

[Cobalt Violet]

21. BREAKING FUCKING NEWS :

Native Americans don't owe anyone their vote!
Fucking shocker. I know.

[brooklynite]

22. Same reason some African Americans and Hispanics vote for him...

Identity politics is not a driving force for everyone.

[Cobalt Violet]

23. How is your outrage over this possible?

Where is your outrage over the 5500 ANNUAL Missing and Murdered Native American Women?

[brooklynite]

24. But then the OP asked "how is this possible"?

The connection is that a "half Cherokee" would NEVER be a Trump supporter.

[haele]

26. Not all Natives live in reservations.

The Cherokee are a wide-spread peoples; many have lived in both black and white communities for generations from the Virginias and Carolinas to Oklahoma. Many were able to "pass" and managed to assimilate into white society by taking on "acceptable" last names such as Fox, Gibb, or Lane.

Just because someone is full, half or quarter NA doesn't mean they follow tribal practices or philosophies.

Sorry to hear whenever an old friend is found to be either shallow, fearful, or gullible enough to become a Trumper, no matter what background they originally came from.

Haele

[lagomorph777]

27. 50% Native American, 100% idiot.

The stupid, it burns.

[hunter]

29. There are plenty of gay Republicans as well.

Some people are willing to live as second class citizens for ideological reasons.

They can be really obnoxious about it too, strutting around like they've overcome some handicap or obstacle, seemingly unaware that it was "conservative" society that placed those obstacles in their path in the first place.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

32. Very few Native Americans are Republicans.

I'm pretty sure the Cherokee have the highest percentage of Republicans, by far, per capita among all US tribes.

Elections 2012: All Indians Are Democrats? Not in Oklahoma

And Oklahoma should also dispel the idea that all American Indians are Democrats. Nearly nine percent of the state’s population identify as American Indians yet much of that Native population is as conservative as the rest of the neighborhood.

There are some 24 members of the Oklahoma legislature who identify as tribal citizens, the most, by far, of any state. Most are Republicans, and are represented as members of the party’s leadership (as are the Democrats).

Two tribal members are running for Congress and both are conservative Republicans. Rep. Tom Cole, who has served five terms, and Markwayne Mullin.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/elections-2012-all-indians-are-democrats-not-in-oklahoma