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Beachnutt

(7,341 posts)
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:06 AM May 2021

The Dems should not waste time trying to get rethugs onboard

with any bills, just go straight to a vote and vote it through
and move on to the next one.
The rethugs are going to vote against everything the Dems try to do and then when it gets passed with a dem majority they try to take credit for it, so don't waste time just give the rethugs the finger and go to a vote.
imo

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Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
1. Put Manchin in charge of Senate outreach
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:09 AM
May 2021

Let him spend all of his time getting the Republicans to agree to anything, see where he gets.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. I basically agree, but a brief period to demonstrate good faith on our part and bad faith on theirs,
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:10 AM
May 2021

helps the overall cause. Voters will gradually get the picture. Well, sane voters will. Not hard-core pukes, of course.

Beachnutt

(7,341 posts)
3. There is no good faith with the crooked rethugs, dems
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:17 AM
May 2021

should make the thugs irrelevant by just totally ignoring them .
We have the majority for a reason now lets use it.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. We barely have the majority, and in the Senate, we have Manchin.
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:22 AM
May 2021

We have to move some more voters to make Manchin irrelevant so we can do as you say, and ignore the pukes. Right now, though, Manchin is basically acting as a puke so we don't have a functioning majority. That makes it impossible to do what you are recommending - until we get more Senate seats (and we are also pretty weak in the House).

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
6. If the dems are arrogant about this nothing will likely be accomplished. The goal
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:43 AM
May 2021

is to try to heal this inane split in the US.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. The split can't be healed. The goal is to let pukes show voters how useless they are,
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:51 AM
May 2021

and let a few more voters help us get stronger majorities in house and especially senate. Then the harm from people like Manchin and Sinema can be neutralized.

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
9. I agree with you. We need to see the big picture and play the long game.
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:16 AM
May 2021

Among other things, that means registering more voters, increasing turnout, and reaching people now. We've seen how turnout changed history in several of the past few elections. You can't pass things if you don't have enough allies in place to pass them.

The 2010 election should have been enough of a wake-up call, but I think by 2018 a lot more people realized it was time to treat every election as crucial.

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