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Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:50 PM May 2021

Missing Cameras And Mounting Questions After The Shooting Of Andrew Brown Jr.

https://www.theuprising.info/p/missing-cameras-and-mounting-questions

ELIZABETH CITY, N.C. — Ben Crump, the civil rights lawyer who has become known as “Black America’s attorney general,” is convinced that authorities in coastal Pasquotank County don’t want the world to see footage of Andrew Brown Jr.’s death.

“I don’t think they want to release this video,” Crump said in a conversation with The Uprising on Sunday evening. “I think that once they release this video there is no coming back.”

Crump made his assessment as he visited the home where Brown, 42, was shot and killed by sheriff’s deputies executing a drug-related arrest warrant on the morning of April 21. Brown is set to be laid to rest on Monday afternoon in a funeral ceremony that will be attended by his children, grandchildren, and national civil rights leaders.

Crump, who has represented relatives of multiple Black people killed by the police in recent years and is one of several lawyers representing Brown’s family, believes the growing prevalence of cell phone and surveillance cameras has played a transformative role in generating public outrage about these incidents. After watching an excerpt of the police body camera footage, which has not been made public, Chantel Cherry-Lassiter, another one of the Brown family’s attorneys, told reporters it showed an “execution.” Cherry-Lassiter claimed Brown “wasn’t reaching for anything,” had his hands on the steering wheel, and was trying to drive away from the deputies.

Crump and Brown’s legal team want the world to see footage of his death.

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Missing Cameras And Mounting Questions After The Shooting Of Andrew Brown Jr. (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2021 OP
Agree, this sounds like a load of BS. Police say the car "contacted" officers. Hoyt May 2021 #1
+1 SheltieLover May 2021 #4
Have you ever seen a show like 'Cops'? OldBaldy1701E May 2021 #9
I am confused. TigressDem May 2021 #2
Resisting arrest does not justify killing the suspect --- legally or otherwise. hedda_foil May 2021 #3
That is true... there is just so little information. TigressDem May 2021 #5
You cannot justify the police shooting someone resisting arrest. Period. Tommymac May 2021 #10
Running from the police does not carry a summary sentence of death. Iggo May 2021 #12
Until ALL footage of EVERY camera present which SHOULD have been recording is made public RockRaven May 2021 #6
This case has an extra high pile of manure Roc2020 May 2021 #7
Something wrong here far beyond the wnylib May 2021 #8
+1. You get it. Tommymac May 2021 #11
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Agree, this sounds like a load of BS. Police say the car "contacted" officers.
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:05 PM
May 2021

Another pile of BS. “Contacted” doesn’t sound like trying to run over police, the only reason I can see that MIGHT be a reason to shoot an unarmed man.

Glad the FBI is on this.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,157 posts)
9. Have you ever seen a show like 'Cops'?
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:04 AM
May 2021

Some of the 'information' passed on to dispatch is hysterical. Like the one time the cops were chasing some guy and two officers rammed the perp's car to try and run him off of the road. They rammed him. There is no way to deny it. Yet, the officer clearly says to dispatch, "Subject has rammed myself and Officer XXXX!" No he didn't! YOU did! However, in the official narrative, the cop was 'rammed'. This is what we as a society have to deal with from those who are supposed to be the field reps for the practice of societal law. And, what this says is that it is not just some occasional 'out of control' police officer. This is a fundamental skewering of the concept of law to allow one group to operate with impunity while all others have to walk quietly in terror with their heads down. Just FYI, this part of North Carolina is where I am from, and this is neither surprising, or unexpected. Time to get rid of all the beer-gutted good ole boys that have permeated that part of the state's law enforcement. Just too much bigotry and Dunning Kruger for it to ever be equitable and just.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
2. I am confused.
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:10 PM
May 2021

I get that they shot him in the back and found no drugs but if they had a warrant and he drove away, isn't that a type of resisting arrest?

I mean it isn't reading that they had a warrant, searched the car, found no drugs and then released him only to shoot him in the back... there is some context missing here.

It doesn't say they interacted with him other than to shoot him as he drove the car away.

Did Andrew Brown not know they wanted to talk to him and was just driving away and they decided to shoot?

I guess that is why the video is needed.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
5. That is true... there is just so little information.
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:19 PM
May 2021

With the shots coming from behind, did Andrew Brown even see them?

Did they announce they had a warrant and needed him to step out of the vehicle? You know?

Or did they show up, realize who he was and just start shooting as he drove away?




Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
10. You cannot justify the police shooting someone resisting arrest. Period.
Wed May 5, 2021, 11:04 AM
May 2021

Your questions are valid ones, but have NO BEARING on this.

The police have once again Executed a black suspect without due legal process.

When is this going to end? When We ALL hold the police LEGALLY accountable for their actions.

Police sign up for the job knowing the dangers - firing first is not an option for them.



RockRaven

(14,998 posts)
6. Until ALL footage of EVERY camera present which SHOULD have been recording is made public
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:23 PM
May 2021

this PD looks like they are covering up some illegal actions of their officers. Whether that is murder or otherwise we can only surmise based on the evidence available (I mean, evidence which is verifiable independent of just accepting "the cops say that..." as true).

But the appearance of malfeasance is of their own creation -- whether it is because they withhold, destroy, or never created video in the first place by turning cameras off.

Now why would they do that?... Maybe because the alternative (I.e. transparency) is even worse?

wnylib

(21,606 posts)
8. Something wrong here far beyond the
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:26 AM
May 2021

killing of an unarmrd man over some drugs.

A good PD department would release video and denounce any execution style killing. It would denounce any officers who did not have cameras on.

So a PD that doesn't do that indicates an attitude of protecting cops no matter what, which encourages cops to believe that they can get away with shooting unarmed people in the first place.

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