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No one here talking about the Chauvin juror who possibly has a conflict of interest.... (Original Post) Sogo May 2021 OP
Oy ve! Beakybird May 2021 #1
For an appeal they will need one hell of a lot more than this. hlthe2b May 2021 #2
Not RW media, but a story by AP being carried on MSM and Sogo May 2021 #3
My statement said if you were listening to the discussion of the story on RW media you will get a hlthe2b May 2021 #5
And my reply was to say that I'm NOT listening to RW media, nor their attorneys. Sogo May 2021 #8
I am not saying you are. I am saying to the wider world, that those hearing this from RW media hlthe2b May 2021 #10
Fair enough.... Sogo May 2021 #11
... hlthe2b May 2021 #12
AP repeats too many MAGA Media headlines, politicos at AP don't police their editors uponit7771 May 2021 #16
Agree. NoMoreRepugs May 2021 #6
Well, we have to allow jurors to have opinions and lives dawg day May 2021 #4
The judge could easily declare a mistrial. Calista241 May 2021 #7
Not a conflict of interest. OneBro May 2021 #9
The right only cares about the minute (and irrelevant) details when the lose the argument Dawson Leery May 2021 #13
This continues to be othering. cilla4progress May 2021 #14
THIS IrishAfricanAmerican May 2021 #22
... cilla4progress May 2021 #25
FWIW, ScratchCat May 2021 #15
Chauvin's attorney seems to be a straight shooter and not a firebrand type of guy. Calista241 May 2021 #17
I doubt a mistrial will be declared. Elessar Zappa May 2021 #18
Yeah, let the judge StarlightGold May 2021 #20
there can't be a mistrial now... right? WarGamer May 2021 #26
Nope, sarisataka May 2021 #19
If the fuckers declare a mistrial, the cost will be very high. David__77 May 2021 #21
This is a nothingburger. IrishAfricanAmerican May 2021 #23
weren't the jurors asked/told not to speak out until after the sentencing? IcyPeas May 2021 #24
No one is talking about it because it doesn't matter kcr May 2021 #27

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
2. For an appeal they will need one hell of a lot more than this.
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:10 PM
May 2021

Meh. He was asked in voir dire about relevant protests and answered honestly apparently. The MLK march WAS not an anti-police march at all.

If you watch RW media, undoubtedly you will get a far more hysterical take, but this is not going to earn him a new trial.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
5. My statement said if you were listening to the discussion of the story on RW media you will get a
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:17 PM
May 2021

very different take than what I am presenting (undoubtedly).

If you are concerned, perhaps wait for some of the better attorneys to discuss. Again, not the RW attorneys on Fox, NewsMax or OAN or even, perhaps on local news channels.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
8. And my reply was to say that I'm NOT listening to RW media, nor their attorneys.
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:25 PM
May 2021

It was a story put out by AP, picked up by MSM. I've never watched OAN or NewsMax, and haven't tuned to Fox in many years....Of course, I'll be listening for competent commentary....

Thank you for your perspective, minus the attack.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
10. I am not saying you are. I am saying to the wider world, that those hearing this from RW media
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:27 PM
May 2021

will get a very different view than what I presented legally.

You need to take a breath. No one was attacking YOU. This IS being presented on RW media. I just left an office where FOX was playing in the waiting room.

We talk about our RW opponents all the time. Those comments are not directed to you unless you state you agree with them.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
4. Well, we have to allow jurors to have opinions and lives
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:17 PM
May 2021

It's going to be hard to get a racially diverse jury and demand the African Americans be completely neutral about racism.

And lots of people (of all races) participated in protests last summer. It would be hard to empanel a completely uninvolved jury, not sure we'd want that anyway. I'm always amazed at potential jurors who say-- quite honestly-- that no, they don't pay any attention to the news, and never heard anything about some extremely famous defendant or victim or notorious case. Really? You never heard of David Letterman? Charles Manson?

But I guess not everyone refreshes the AP website every 10 minutes.....

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
9. Not a conflict of interest.
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:27 PM
May 2021

Not even close. Just an example of how America suggesting only white people can be impartial on juries. The commentary and video of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck was all over the media, and the idea that this juror was somehow brainwashed by a speech is just goofy and, sadly, predictable.

Tucker Carlson and his merry band of Jim Crows will, of course, have a field day with this. Chauvin is their kind of cop, doing their god’s work. What?, a juror came to trial so biased that he was already outraged that a human suffocated another human with a knee for 8 minutes? Well now that, THAT!, is simply outrageous.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
13. The right only cares about the minute (and irrelevant) details when the lose the argument
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:30 PM
May 2021

This is one of those cases.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
14. This continues to be othering.
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:32 PM
May 2021

That Black lives matter is not mainstream. That it is a view held by that dangerous threatening other.

This is a bias and a ruse.

The RW routinely - and often successfully, labels progressive or egalitarian or now democratic! views as suspect and biased, and those that, for example, storm the US Capitol under the banners of the Confederacy and Hitler to be the real Americans.

I've seen them succeed at this for years.

Don't fall into their trap.

ScratchCat

(1,981 posts)
15. FWIW,
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:38 PM
May 2021

This issue has been started by some RW internet sleuth, not Chauvin's attorney. The article is a little confusing, but it sounds like the defense questioned him directly about BLM, his knowledge of the case and views of police. If that's the case, then this is nothing.

The only possibly troubling issue is the shirt he had on at the MLK day march(assuming that is real; don't know why he says he doesn't remember wearing or owning the shirt.)

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
17. Chauvin's attorney seems to be a straight shooter and not a firebrand type of guy.
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:46 PM
May 2021

If he's going to complain, it won't be to the press. Chauvin has yet to be sentenced, and the judge could still declare a mistrial.

The article also gives weight on appeal. The judge denied the defense's request for a change of venue, and this only add fuel to the fire.

StarlightGold

(365 posts)
20. Yeah, let the judge
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:08 PM
May 2021

declare a mistrial. Whatever the court technicalities, the world will see that a knee on the neck of a man until he suffocates is small potatoes compared to a juror’s “questionable” t-shirt.

I’m a middle aged white person and am SO sick of this shit.

David__77

(23,369 posts)
21. If the fuckers declare a mistrial, the cost will be very high.
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:11 PM
May 2021

Of course it might also tear away illusions about the system.

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