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Does Charlie Crist have a chance of defeating Ron Deathsentence? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 OP
YES SarasotaDem May 2021 #1
My favorite Charlie story DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #6
One can only hope. Tommy Carcetti May 2021 #2
No Val Demmings? sarcasmo May 2021 #3
We don't have a strong and organized Democratic Party in FL. RegularJam May 2021 #4
Didn't the party support Crist in 2010 over the actual Democratic nominee?? eTXwLA May 2021 #8
No USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #10
Bill Clinton tried to get Meek to drop out and support Crist Celerity May 2021 #15
Painful. Just painful. Hurt Democrats in our state bad. Still haven't recovered. RegularJam May 2021 #16
Republicans are good at projection USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #11
I believe I am correct in saying the largest voter swing in the country in 2020... RegularJam May 2021 #17
Oh yeah USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #21
NFW bermudat May 2021 #5
Nope USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #7
NO keithsw May 2021 #9
It would take a strong message and onethatcares May 2021 #12
No. Val Deming would have a better shot. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #13
No. FL has been tilting Right for years... WarGamer May 2021 #14
That's not true rockfordfile May 2021 #19
I think it's more that Republicans know how to cheat USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #22
He has a chance. ColinC May 2021 #18
No BradAllison May 2021 #20
This. Nikki has a better chance. Phoenix61 May 2021 #25
I don't think so Polybius May 2021 #23
In a poll released a month ago keithsw May 2021 #32
I Think Crist is the Only Person Who Can Beat De Santis. Demmings is Great But Florida Ain't Ready. Indykatie May 2021 #24
No. He won't get that much money either. LuvLoogie May 2021 #26
ie Nikki Fried or Val! obamanut2012 May 2021 #28
No fucking wway -- he needs to step away now obamanut2012 May 2021 #27
Val Demmings is not that well known across the entire state. It's not impossible to overcome that In It to Win It May 2021 #31
Too early to tell In It to Win It May 2021 #29
I'd prefer Nikki Fried, she done pretty well as Ag Sec. and she's pro cannabis NightWatcher May 2021 #30
I don't know the extent to which he mended fences with LGBT people dsc May 2021 #33
yes, name recognition and a moderate - this is what it takes to win a swing state Amishman May 2021 #34

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
6. My favorite Charlie story
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:13 PM
May 2021

I was living in South Florida on a temporary basis during the Summer of 2010 but my home address was in Central Florida. This was when Charlie was running for the Senate. I needed to renew my drivers license but it was virtually impossible to get through to schedule an appointment. I called up Governor Crist's office and told them my plight. They had the manager of the drivers' license office in Fort Lauderdale call me and set up an appointment and I should ask for the manager and he'll personally walk me through the process.

That's constituent service.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
2. One can only hope.
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:08 PM
May 2021

I worry there might be a "Been there, done that" with him for some, but I like him. He was decent governor even as a Republican.

I actually prefer him slightly to Fried but she's got the inside edge as the only current statewide elected Dem. Either one I'd vote for in a heart beat.

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
4. We don't have a strong and organized Democratic Party in FL.
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:11 PM
May 2021

It's been that way for twenty or so years. Each time we have someone who could do it they end up moving on their own political ambitions. We are in a bad spot in Florida. Our issue is organization.

I like Crist. Voted for him. He is my representative. The Crist of today is worlds different than the Crist of ten years ago.

Any Democrat right now is going to struggle against DeathSantis. It's not about the person. It's about the organization.

Additionally, someone best get into Dade County to figure out what the f is going on. The Proud Boys are turning the youth of the area against us, there was no real investigation into the clearly shady vote there in the last election, and we have taken the area for granted.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
10. No
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:29 PM
May 2021

The party supported Meek...that election was a hot mess...Crist should have ran as a Democrat that election and not a Republican....if he did, there would be a Senator Crist right now instead of a Senator Rubio

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
16. Painful. Just painful. Hurt Democrats in our state bad. Still haven't recovered.
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:39 PM
May 2021

Crist actually decided that year to not run for reelection for governor. Kendrick Meek won the Democratic Primary for Senator handily. Meek was outspent like five to one and still won. Crist decided to enter the senators race as an NPA candidate against Meeks and Rubio. At one point Crist was polling ahead of Rubio in the Republican Primary. During that time Crist remained registered as a Republican but ran NPA.

The party failed Meek tremendously.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-2010-10-12-os-meek-conf-call-20101012-story.html

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-2010-04-30-os-crist-independent-20100429-story.html



USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
11. Republicans are good at projection
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:32 PM
May 2021

So all the election fraud claims is probably because the have a great cheating apparatus in Florida....And how convenient for them that the most Republican area in the state is on a different time zone and the polls close later...they know exactly what they need to win

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
17. I believe I am correct in saying the largest voter swing in the country in 2020...
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:42 PM
May 2021

Of any population center was Dade County. Trump didn't win it but the swing was in his favor. Drastic difference from previous elections and far outside of any norms. Republicans gained more votes in Dade County than damn near vote in the panhandle. Not that your point about the panhandle isn't on point.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
21. Oh yeah
Tue May 4, 2021, 04:12 PM
May 2021

They are cheating everywhere in Florida and your point on Dade County is on point, too....something was also fishy about the 2018 Governor and Senate races....I think that when Obama won in 2008 and 2012, they decided to make sure that wouldn’t happen again

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
7. Nope
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:17 PM
May 2021

He lost the last two statewide races he has ran in....Better to try for re-election in the house....his district is a swing district and the Democrats can’t afford to lose it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215399013

onethatcares

(16,185 posts)
12. It would take a strong message and
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:33 PM
May 2021

the pukes are going to run the same old "been in government all his life, and can't make up his mind" campaign against him.

Nikki Fried does have name recognition and I'd vote for either her or Charlie but I wish David Jolly would become a true Democrat instead of an independent and run for us.

And as someone else said, we need organization.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
25. This. Nikki has a better chance.
Tue May 4, 2021, 05:32 PM
May 2021

She’s consistently sharing information. And I think she’s appeal to the younger folks. Christ ain’t Bernie or even Joe for that matter. All that being said, if he can pull votes from DeSatan maybe?

Polybius

(15,476 posts)
23. I don't think so
Tue May 4, 2021, 04:16 PM
May 2021

DeSantis' best chance to be defeated was when he ran last time. He was much more unpopular then.

LuvLoogie

(7,028 posts)
26. No. He won't get that much money either.
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:19 PM
May 2021

I can't see how he would win. Desantis needs an opponent willing to and capable of rhetorically kicking his ass and humiliating him. Willing to call him a criminal dumbass.

obamanut2012

(26,137 posts)
27. No fucking wway -- he needs to step away now
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:59 PM
May 2021

Fried or Demmings may have a shot, especially Nikki Fried. I would say Graham would take it, but she accepted a position in Biden's Administration.

In It to Win It

(8,283 posts)
31. Val Demmings is not that well known across the entire state. It's not impossible to overcome that
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:03 PM
May 2021

Andrew Gillum did it back in 2018. BUT that is an edge that Charlie Crist, being a previous governor, has over Val Demmings (for now). Charlie isn't my first choice but I wouldn't count him out over Val Demmings.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
33. I don't know the extent to which he mended fences with LGBT people
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:18 AM
May 2021

but he was horridly anti LGBT as governor. I have to say he would be a hard sell for me in a primary based on that.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
34. yes, name recognition and a moderate - this is what it takes to win a swing state
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:23 AM
May 2021

especially in a non-presidential election year

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