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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Tue May 4, 2021, 04:49 PM May 2021

If Republicans left their Party, would there be room in the Democratic Party for them?

Or is the Democratic Party's tent only large enough for progressive and liberal members?

Could someone like Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney fit into the Democratic Party?

Is there room in the Democratic Party for conservatives? (There was a time when a good percentage of the Democratic Party called themselves conservatives)

This is just for discussion. No one would ever expect Romney or Cheney to join the Democratic Party. The only thing worse than Trump, in their minds, are Democrats.

But there may be Republicans somewhere that are thinking of joining the Democrats?

Would they be welcome?

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If Republicans left their Party, would there be room in the Democratic Party for them? (Original Post) kentuck May 2021 OP
Wouldn't they be more Independent? pwb May 2021 #1
No I don't think so the both parties have gone to far from the center nt doc03 May 2021 #2
Really? what is the center anymore? Bev54 May 2021 #9
Democratic policy is very popular right now. Elessar Zappa May 2021 #13
Biden is far better than The Loser but Biden has turned out to be doc03 May 2021 #26
Moderate republicans would be good, at least you can carry on an intelligent conversation RKP5637 May 2021 #3
I am afraid they would pull our party too far right. Irish_Dem May 2021 #4
ACA, as much a Biden success as Obama's was ROmney's plan in MA Claire Oh Nette May 2021 #18
Yep, I think you're quite correct! I really love having Biden as president. What a breath RKP5637 May 2021 #19
I'm in progressive heaven with Biden. Irish_Dem May 2021 #24
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 May 2021 #30
Biden has given progressives permission to come out from the shadows. Irish_Dem May 2021 #31
Actions will speak louder than words. LakeArenal May 2021 #5
The democratic party has Joe Manchin Bev54 May 2021 #6
And he is barely tolerated. Irish_Dem May 2021 #33
Yes, he is the token and the position is filled. Bev54 May 2021 #34
Exactly, no more openings! Irish_Dem May 2021 #35
Not by me! 50 Shades Of Blue May 2021 #7
Hmm... Mike Nelson May 2021 #8
Depends on the Republican. Charlie Crist was a Republican... Drunken Irishman May 2021 #10
I would welcome them only if . . . markpkessinger May 2021 #11
Almost all the actual moderate Republicans have quit over the last five years. hedda_foil May 2021 #12
no, they are both fair-weather friends. IcyPeas May 2021 #14
I sure as hell won't welcome any Republicans. They have their party, they can live with it. Autumn May 2021 #15
All memberships obnoxiousdrunk May 2021 #16
Well, my supposition would be as follows: Volaris May 2021 #17
I'd be happy if they simply gave up and quit voting. hunter May 2021 #20
I don't want them. NewHendoLib May 2021 #21
No. They should become Independents if they no longer fit with their party. Merlot May 2021 #22
I guess it depends. Do they want to be Reagan Republicans? Or Ike/Rockefeller Republicans? JHB May 2021 #23
Cheney and Romney would never switch mcar May 2021 #25
There's a lonely man waiting in West Virginia to guide them in Our Ways. bluedigger May 2021 #27
Maybe rockfordfile May 2021 #28
It depends: are we contemplating the Liars or the Suckers? struggle4progress May 2021 #29
Leave the racist policy, climate change denial, and voodoo economics at the door... gulliver May 2021 #32
Yes? Maybe then we can forget about labels and discuss true policy FlyingPiggy May 2021 #36
I would rather they start a new party. The original Republican party arose in the same way. NNadir May 2021 #37
Which Ex-Republicans to welcome? That's hard to answer Vogon_Glory May 2021 #38
Would any of the DUers critical of Manchin accept any Republicans? Of course not. onenote May 2021 #39

Bev54

(10,074 posts)
9. Really? what is the center anymore?
Tue May 4, 2021, 04:58 PM
May 2021

The majority of the American people like Joe Biden's policies, that would seem to me it is the center.

Elessar Zappa

(14,077 posts)
13. Democratic policy is very popular right now.
Tue May 4, 2021, 05:07 PM
May 2021

I think the party is just where it needs to be ideologically.

doc03

(35,382 posts)
26. Biden is far better than The Loser but Biden has turned out to be
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:21 PM
May 2021

a good bit more left than I would like.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
18. ACA, as much a Biden success as Obama's was ROmney's plan in MA
Tue May 4, 2021, 05:18 PM
May 2021

If we stopped fanning the culture wars, the never ending "Damn you kids, get offa my lawn," and governed instead of pandering (GOP), them Mitt would already be a conservative democrat.

The GOP as we used to know it is going to splinter. One party is openly anti democracy, pro fascism, and the Republicans who claim to be horrified, who registered independent or Democrat after Jan 6. will need to have choices and be welcome in our party. We've always had Heath Shulers and Joe Manchins.

If JRB is as FDR like as I think he could be, we'd do well to ACA other GOP successes to work for all of us. Let these conservadems press for Buy American and produce tax policies to bring manufacturing back, rather than rewarding it to leave.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
19. Yep, I think you're quite correct! I really love having Biden as president. What a breath
Tue May 4, 2021, 05:18 PM
May 2021

of fresh air.

Irish_Dem

(47,456 posts)
31. Biden has given progressives permission to come out from the shadows.
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:57 PM
May 2021

We can show ourselves at long last.

I am a proud and loyal Democrat, but also a proud progressive.

A progressive agenda is how I see the best future for all.

I know we can do it.

Mike Nelson

(9,968 posts)
8. Hmm...
Tue May 4, 2021, 04:58 PM
May 2021

... Cheney and Romney, big no. They are admirable in one respect, but their views are not going to change. Someone like Kinzinger could moderate, maybe... also, they can vote for the Dem.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
10. Depends on the Republican. Charlie Crist was a Republican...
Tue May 4, 2021, 04:59 PM
May 2021

...and he's a pretty reliable Democrat now.

The problem is that there aren't many moderate Republicans elected in congress anymore. They've all been purged from the party since the 2010 midterms. Hijacked by the extremists, as their districts were made more conservative through gerrymandering (or they lost in 2018 in seats now held by Democrats).

Candidates that might break away:

Brian Fitzpatrick, congressman serving Pennsylvania's 1st district. It's a swing district and his voting record shows it, as he's voted with Biden-backed legislation nearly 70% of the time, tho not the major bills like the stimulus. Chris Smith from New Jersey maybe... but unlikely.

That's about it from a reasonable point of view.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
17. Well, my supposition would be as follows:
Tue May 4, 2021, 05:13 PM
May 2021

Read the Democratic Party Policy Platform, and heres why:

If those former Republicans are on board with All That then they're welcome here. If a Former Republican could make themselves adhere to at least 85%, then theres drinks and cookies in the lobby

If not....

But heres the thing. That 15% that's left, IS WHATS LEFT, and for a lot of us to one extent or another, NOT being on board with THAT 15%, might be a bridge too far.

If were gonna be a Big Tent Party, we have to be willing to acknowledge that that tent has corners that some of us would rather not deal with, AND that those corners might occasionally, hurt us a good deal (manchin comes immediately to mind today).

hunter

(38,328 posts)
20. I'd be happy if they simply gave up and quit voting.
Tue May 4, 2021, 05:23 PM
May 2021

I think we should do everything we can to drive Trump Republicans back into the holes they crawled out of.

It must be shameful to be a Republican these days.

JHB

(37,162 posts)
23. I guess it depends. Do they want to be Reagan Republicans? Or Ike/Rockefeller Republicans?
Tue May 4, 2021, 05:40 PM
May 2021

We would fight with the Ike/Rockefeller Republicans over some things, but they understood and could support and advocate for infrastructure, some social programs, and taxes that weren't giveaways to the rich.

The conservatives that Reagan swept into power thought they were a pack of quislings and did their level best to eliminate anyone who couldn't get with their arch-conservative program.

We can deal with the first bunch. We did before, and we still do in that their political descendants are the rightward portion of the centrists already in the party.

The second bunch are the people who made the Republican party into what it presently is. They loved what the votes that anger-inducing demagoguery brought them, especially when they could sidestep what was actually said because it was a radio-ranter who said it. They just kept feeding the beast until they lost control of it.

If they want to acknowledge their role in what has happened, and are willing to shut up and just vote with us until the that beast of theirs dies from lack of victory, we could deal with that, too.

If they're going to what they've been doing, expecting us to make them all comfy while giving us bupkus, if they walk in the door they can leave, back through the door or out the window.

mcar

(42,376 posts)
25. Cheney and Romney would never switch
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:52 PM
May 2021

I applaud their patriotic stances but they are ultra conservative. They are not Democrats at all

Best to hope for is the continued civil war within the GOP.

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
32. Leave the racist policy, climate change denial, and voodoo economics at the door...
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:57 PM
May 2021

...and come on in, I say.

FlyingPiggy

(3,384 posts)
36. Yes? Maybe then we can forget about labels and discuss true policy
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:12 PM
May 2021

That is a dream of mine. That one day we can take out the party and corporate money to just freaking govern w people’s interest as the driving force. Well, that’s a pipe dream of mine, anyways.

NNadir

(33,561 posts)
37. I would rather they start a new party. The original Republican party arose in the same way.
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:23 PM
May 2021

Of course, the original Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and Grant, and not the party of bozo racists.

Vogon_Glory

(9,132 posts)
38. Which Ex-Republicans to welcome? That's hard to answer
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:09 PM
May 2021

I like to think there’d be room for intelligent, thoughtful former Republicans with ethics and who are solid members of the reality-based community.

On the other hand, I’d be far less welcoming to the opportunistic liars, scammers, and cultists that have run afoul of Orange Julius and seek safer harbors.

Likewise, I don’t think we should welcome former Dixiecrat (turncoats) or their progeny back into our ranks. They not only betrayed us, but their years in the Republican Party have shown what they do when unbound by compromise and feel free to exercise their political and ideological ids to maximum extent. When a man shows you what he is, believe him. And they have shown us what they are.

Let them remain in the political wilderness thrice as long as it took Moses and the Israelites to travel from Egypt to Canaan.!

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