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TomDaisy

(1,870 posts)
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:39 AM May 2021

On Lincoln Project livestream earlier, Rick Wilson says GOP will pick Jordan or Greene as Speaker

McCarthy thinks it will be him. Wilson says he's wrong.

Wilson points out that McCarthy has a lot of flaws in the view of trumpers. He's only 99% loyal and that is not enough. He wasn't radical the moment he entered Congress and that taints him.

These GOP nuts will want Jim Jordan or Marjorie Taylor Greene as speaker over him.

And then expect Joe Biden to be impeached.

He doesn't hold up much hope Dems can hold the House. Mostly because of redistricting.

He also says no one runs better campaigns than Mitch McConnell and we may lose the Senate too.

I have a sick sick feeling.


He also said it's a mistake to spend a ton of money on AOC because she will win. She does not need help.
Katie Porter will need help.

He also said Dems still not doing a good enough job winning lowest level races. County Commissioner. Sheriffs. School boards. These winners feed the state houses and we are losing state houses. State houses control redistricting

Don't sleep on California. Don't sleep on the Newsom recall.


God what a mess.

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On Lincoln Project livestream earlier, Rick Wilson says GOP will pick Jordan or Greene as Speaker (Original Post) TomDaisy May 2021 OP
Wilson said we need to focus on personalities and not on specific policies TomDaisy May 2021 #1
Wanna bet, Rick? WarGamer May 2021 #2
I agree. jimfields33 May 2021 #15
I think Wilson is wrong at least when it comes to the senate. The rest, an awful shit show PortTack May 2021 #3
Wilson reminds, if not for Officer Goodman the coup would have succeeded TomDaisy May 2021 #4
Wilson also notes we need to cut off the corporate money to GOP TomDaisy May 2021 #5
regarding Ron DeSantis TomDaisy May 2021 #7
McCarthy thinks it will be him. elleng May 2021 #6
we need to exploit this TomDaisy May 2021 #8
Sorry? What mess? Joe is President, Kamala is Vice-President, and the Ds control the H and S MerryHolidays May 2021 #9
'What a wonderful situation we have!' for the moment, yes, but elleng May 2021 #10
Perhaps, but I think we're doing very well MerryHolidays May 2021 #11
You are correct, but too rational! elleng May 2021 #12
True, and too sleepy too MerryHolidays May 2021 #13
ZACLY Rationality hasn't worked well in the US of A for awhile! elleng May 2021 #14
dont count out the house MFM008 May 2021 #16
We're barely past 100 days into Biden's administration misanthrope May 2021 #17
This JustAnotherGen May 2021 #18
there are 2 reasons the agenda is not moving forward in the Senate TomDaisy May 2021 #19

TomDaisy

(1,870 posts)
1. Wilson said we need to focus on personalities and not on specific policies
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:43 AM
May 2021

Biden made it choice between trump or America - and that was a winner.

Wilson said that putting out a policy almost hobbles you because they will pick it apart and throw it at you and demagogue it.

Better to saddle them with MTG and run against her everywhere.

Wilson says the GOP had a long-term strategy to turn Georgia red (30 years ago) by WINNING SHERIFF'S RACES. And then they pushed those people up up up through elections in GA.

PortTack

(32,766 posts)
3. I think Wilson is wrong at least when it comes to the senate. The rest, an awful shit show
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:47 AM
May 2021

On edit: 7-8 months ago Wilson, along with the rest of us would have laughed if someone said we’d have 2 dem senators from GA let alone GA voting for a dem president

TomDaisy

(1,870 posts)
4. Wilson reminds, if not for Officer Goodman the coup would have succeeded
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:51 AM
May 2021

and Congresspeople and Senators would have been beaten to death

and trump would be "president" right now with no way to get him out

TomDaisy

(1,870 posts)
5. Wilson also notes we need to cut off the corporate money to GOP
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:04 AM
May 2021

cut off the money because of January 6.


also stresses the importance of hyper-local candidates - good fit for the district. No such thing as a "national candidate."

Lincoln Project will be working on wedging off Republican voters from GOP candidates. Not 1,000,000 voters. But 60,000 targeted voters with a hyper-local message. Get the soft Republicans and peel them off.

We should not focus on "Converting all Republicans!" Should focus on working at peeling off GOP voters at the margins.

Expect culture war, cults, terrifying GOP voters into "their way of life is ending!" Socialism.
Don't underestimate the power of the culture war arguments. Don't say "God what idiots" and just dismiss it.
A powerful voter motivation tool ----- that we need to try to take away.


Dems should talk about 1) COVID Relief 2) Capitol attack.


This will be a very very hard cycle.

TomDaisy

(1,870 posts)
7. regarding Ron DeSantis
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:11 AM
May 2021

he is a hard core elitist - Harvard and Yale

he's smart, he's canny, so is his wife

he's playing the culture war game 24/7


(From a different source I saw that hard core trumpers only want DeSantis or Mike Flynn if they can't have trump.)

Nothing can happen inside the GOP without trump's permission.

He says that no matter how bad you think Florida is, how crazy --- it's worse.

Matt Gaetz's perversion is an open secret among Florida GOP pols. He said that if Gaetz were to be expelled from Congress, his replacement would be worse.

TomDaisy

(1,870 posts)
8. we need to exploit this
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:12 AM
May 2021

we need to plant the seed in Kevin's brain that all he is doing right now IS FOR NAUGHT because trump will throw him under the bus in favor of Jim Jordan.

I mean - he gave Jim Jordan the fcking Presidential Medal of Freedom! he didn't give it to Starburst Steve!

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
9. Sorry? What mess? Joe is President, Kamala is Vice-President, and the Ds control the H and S
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:12 AM
May 2021

I am not sure what the point of a post saying "God what a mess" when Joe has a 60% approval rating. You do get that, right?

You do also get that the Ds took us from Armageddon in 2016 to controlling the White House and the Congress in 2021. Sure, things can change...but they can change both ways. The only folks that I see that are unhappy are MAGATs and Republicans in Congress. That is NOT tantamount to a majority.

Since you post a gloom and doom message, I will do the opposite: God, what a wonderful situation we have!

elleng

(130,895 posts)
10. 'What a wonderful situation we have!' for the moment, yes, but
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:15 AM
May 2021

mid-term elections are coming, and repugs NEVER rest.

AND the STATES.

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
11. Perhaps, but I think we're doing very well
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:19 AM
May 2021

"God, what a mess" is the antithesis of where we are TODAY. Also, our lawyers like Marc Elias are MUCH better than their's.

The move away from supply side economics by President Biden was brilliant. It was so obvious, but he was the one that had the courage to do it. I think that resonates with tons of rank-and-file voters, regardless of party preference.

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
13. True, and too sleepy too
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:27 AM
May 2021

Rationality hasn't worked well in the US of A for awhile!

But, you know what elleng? I am sick to death of being lied to and gaslighted. That's why President Biden was the perfect person for 2020. He's displays none of that.

Signing off to sleep!

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