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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:42 AM May 2021

Let's be clear what he's trying to do to our election process,

He not only is trying to corrupt the legal process to win his election, if this is allowed he'll corrupt all republican.s getting elected. Just like putins done in Russia, where only the most corrupt are allowed to win. Then as he promoted more corrupt actions, those refusing to go along are replaced with more corrupt people. He wants absolute power to control elections, and force out those who are against corruption at his level, and if given the chance he'll escalate calling for more violence.

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Let's be clear what he's trying to do to our election process, (Original Post) duforsure May 2021 OP
Let's be clear, gab13by13 May 2021 #1
That's true, but, duforsure May 2021 #3
I understand what you're saying but looking at the big picture....... KS Toronado May 2021 #13
That's been his scenario from the first day he took office. Firestorm49 May 2021 #20
Let me make this pellucidly clear malaise May 2021 #4
This. FailureToCommunicate May 2021 #5
I totally agree with you, gab13by13 May 2021 #6
Exactly..... gordianot May 2021 #10
EXACTLY! bluestarone May 2021 #19
They need to be stopped NOW! malaise May 2021 #23
I think that this point is the most salient point. Caliman73 May 2021 #29
you nailed it malaise May 2021 #30
I am also confident he will go to jail Escurumbele May 2021 #16
Trump unleashed what was already there, gab13by13 May 2021 #18
You are watching the ball and judging correctly. jaxexpat May 2021 #27
Yes cynical_idealist May 2021 #28
I hope you're right , and I remain positive, duforsure May 2021 #26
I so agree with this Nikki28 May 2021 #2
Why can everybody see this except Manchin? world wide wally May 2021 #8
Manchin is seeing corp $$$$$$$$$$$ donations. Tommymac May 2021 #14
I 100% agree! duforsure May 2021 #21
Vindictive asshole Bobespy May 2021 #7
They don't want to leave the next election to chance. kentuck May 2021 #9
I think this needs to be discussed by the House and Senate, gab13by13 May 2021 #11
I agree, they need to address it publicly, duforsure May 2021 #24
Wow, gab13by13 May 2021 #12
I too am surprised malaise May 2021 #17
Simply put, he, and they, are fascists, trying to create a fascist state Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2021 #15
Corporations that don't want fascism, gab13by13 May 2021 #22
Exactly! duforsure May 2021 #25

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. That's true, but,
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:15 AM
May 2021

He's trying to corrupt the election process to go after corrupting all election processes for power and control. He will use it to control all elections, and to eliminate those not corrupt enough , like Putin did. His money making scams will never stop. He wants absolute power, and is trying bot corruptly get it again, or threaten violence.

KS Toronado

(17,198 posts)
13. I understand what you're saying but looking at the big picture.......
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:43 AM
May 2021

Qrump will be behind bars before long and when that happens his influence will drop overnight as we hear
reQublicans state they hardly knew the guy. Qrump taught them how to say that and fake news.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
20. That's been his scenario from the first day he took office.
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:18 AM
May 2021

My solution: Prosecute every illegal act, lie, and crime that he and his two bit mafia family has perpetrated. Jail the idiot so that nobody would ever again consider voting for the fool.

The exposure of corruption of the Republican Party must be daily news for the next four years. The pussy whipped media needs to grow a set of balls and call a spade a spade.

gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
6. I totally agree with you,
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:24 AM
May 2021

I fear that just by gerrymandering that the GQP can gain back the House. If Democrats can't pass their fairness election bill we could face an autocracy, minority rule. Democrats must understand that we are not living in normal times, they need to fight fire with fire. We have a leader in the House who understands; nuff said or I will get in trouble.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
10. Exactly.....
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:03 AM
May 2021

Might I add most (possibly 70%) Republican followers given the opportunity would do the same or worse to anyone as occurred in the Capitol on January 6, 2021. I am not looking for fight and am not a pacifist

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
19. EXACTLY!
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:16 AM
May 2021

The fuse is lit! No going back for either party, i feel. THEY have made a decision to GO FOR IT! They need to be stopped NOW!

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
29. I think that this point is the most salient point.
Wed May 5, 2021, 03:38 PM
May 2021

There is no person, in history, in any country, that rose to power all by themselves. People talk about Hitler's rise to power, but he would have remained a failed artist in Vienna if he did not have the backing of other people who were wiling to do dirt for him.

Trump is actually a moron. His talent is convincing others to be dirty with him and for him. He is a con artist who really can't think his way out of a paper bag, but he can grift and lie and make people feel good and strong.

Without the support of people like Pence, Nunes, McConnell, McCarthy, Cruz, Paul, Barr, and multiple others, Trump would be insignificant. There is an entire system of power behind Trump. Sure, they are just using him to maintain their own power, but when you enter into pacts like this, your fate is intertwined and you think you can separate at anytime, but you can't.

The Republican party is trying to consolidate power because they know they do not have the support of the majority of people, but they also know that there is apathy within the majority and they are counting on that to win with smaller numbers.

malaise

(268,913 posts)
30. you nailed it
Wed May 5, 2021, 03:42 PM
May 2021

And don't forget ther acist,anti-women and anti-union billionaires and their snake oil salesmen in the so-called religious industry

Escurumbele

(3,386 posts)
16. I am also confident he will go to jail
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:08 AM
May 2021

It is the only way to get rid of that cancer, and I believe the DOJ knows that.

We need to stop giving that buffoon so much energy, we need to stop talking about him, ignore what he does and says and let the courts take care of him.

gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
18. Trump unleashed what was already there,
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:16 AM
May 2021

Look around at the states that are Republican controlled, look at what they are doing. I just voted by mail in Pa. that is controlled by Republicans but we have a Democratic governor. Republicans had 2 ballot initiatives that will weaken the power of the governor. Pa. is gerrymandered, a Democrat will never be elected in my district. Every election Democrats get more votes and Republicans gain seats. Republicans in Pa. know that they will control the legislature so they are giving themselves more power. Other states are doing the same or worse that Pa. is doing.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
27. You are watching the ball and judging correctly.
Wed May 5, 2021, 11:29 AM
May 2021

We are already 1/4 they way to the next mid-term elections. Every gain for the QOP in November 2022 is a nail in the coffin of our democracy. Federal legislation which could ensure Democratic victories by literally saving the country is being challenged on every front. Hell, they're making up fronts to fight us on. Every time we are at bat and fail to hit a home run, we lose. We DO NOT have any tolerance for losing anything lest we lose everything.

If, for a moment, we can set aside our real concerns about an impending civil war, we may be able to win this thing without one. It will require a solidity of purpose on the part of all progressives. For the sake of clarity we may accurately refer to them as the rational ones. It's time to set aside the individualism and idiosyncrasy for which we are both proud and famous but which retains not a single ally nor creates a single new supporter.

The skin of our teeth by which we claimed the last election was the thickness of Trump's unpopularity. UNFORTUNATELY, we won't have Trump to run against in 2022. The outrage we WILL fight is slightly more palatable than that odious creature. To many "swing voters" and ALL low-info voters, WE are the threat to democracy. It's not for nothing that the ideal of higher education has been gutted these last 40 years, remaining unattainable, unaffordable for many. The less exposed to critical thinking a voter is, the more likely they are to vote QOP.

2022 is the deal clincher for these shitheads. If they gain, they have won. We must solidly retain the House and gain as many seats in the Senate as is possible. Those goals are attainable only through unity and the allure that unity may present for the unaffiliated voter. Clean up and dress accordingly. Wear clean underwear, fix your makeup and check for perspiration stains prior to waving your arms.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
26. I hope you're right , and I remain positive,
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:30 AM
May 2021

That this DOJ with Garland will deliver meaningful consequences for them all that's involved. If they don't , next time it will be worse.

Nikki28

(557 posts)
2. I so agree with this
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:05 AM
May 2021

This man is antichrist material. I Am so sick of him. Why can't he just go away and live in retirement so we can get a little of our country back to a two party system. This is crazy. Imagine if Obama had done this? I wonder what would be said then. Our party better start trying to pass that HR1 and offer Machin the sun,moon,and stars to get him to reform the FB because it has to go.If not, we will lose out experiment that worked for a long time.It is time people need to wake up to this. I do not buy they won

Bobespy

(15 posts)
7. Vindictive asshole
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:43 AM
May 2021

45 will not quit because he is more interested in going after his proclaimed enemies. The narcissistic blowhard is hell bent on promoting his falsehood that he won the 2020 election. The devil ex-President will continue to cause trouble, especially if he gets access to media outlets.

gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
11. I think this needs to be discussed by the House and Senate,
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:09 AM
May 2021

I have not really thought this out but I am leaning to doing it. It will shine a light on what is at stake.

Democrats in the House and Senate need to hold a press conference in prime time and make the statement that they will not negotiate with "Republicans" who fail to admit that Joe Biden won the election.

I get so tired of "Republicans" controlling the narrative, the freaking MSM goes out of its way to give equal time to lies, to dangerous lies. This is not a far fetched idea IMO because Democrats can use our national security as a reason for not recognizing "Republicans" who back the Big Lie.

What do you think? This needs to be done because it is going to get a lot worse when Facebook makes its decision today.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
24. I agree, they need to address it publicly,
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:24 AM
May 2021

They need like you say to control the narrative better. MSM needs to stop helping him by stop showing or repeating his propaganda lies for him.

gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
22. Corporations that don't want fascism,
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:20 AM
May 2021

should step up to the plate and not do business with states that are killing our democracy. It is tough seeing as greed reins supreme.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
25. Exactly!
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:26 AM
May 2021

He wants absolute power over everything, and everybody, and corrupting elections is part of the key doing it.

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