CHEAP BASTARDS! They pay $2.15 an hour plus tips & wonder why "no one wants to work anymore"

[kpete]

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THEY’RE HIRING: Chattanooga businesses say they need help, but can’t find the employees to work for them. Rib & Loin says they had to close their in-house service today because not enough people showed up to work. Businesses say the hiring problem has gotten worse since covid.

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[Cracklin Charlie]

1. Been seeing this on my local news.

Not so much complaining, but definitely acknowledging that they’re having to pay better wages.

The local amusement park, mostly younger workers, is having to base pay at $15 per hour.

Makes my heart feel good.

[Bev54]

56. I have never understood this BS of real low wages for servers?

How did this come to be? In Canada everyone gets at least the minimum wage and tips are for themselves, if they do well. This is the incentive for people to be waitresses and waiters. Restaurants survive and thrive up here, so what the hell is going wrong in the US?

[aggiesal]

60. A very powerful Restaurant lobby keeps it this way. ...

Some restaurants are starting to go to a base hourly pay, usually the local minimum wage.

But anytime a bill in congress tries to address this, the Restaurant lobby rears it ugly head and pretty much squashes it.

[Bev54]

61. It is the restaurants passing on their operating expenses onto the

guilt of the patrons. Just increase the amount of meals (it doesn't take much) to cover the wages. Perhaps many of the restaurants can reduce the size of the meals as well (I found the amount of food overwhelming in many places I have been) and that would solve two problems. I hope you can reduce the power of the lobby, servers deserve to be treated like every other employee and make a fair wage.

[aggiesal]

62. With corporate restaurants, changing their minimum wage to $15 ...

would increase the cost of items by maybe 10¢ - 20¢.
In fact some corporate restaurants (McD's, KFC's, ...) are already paying living wages in other countries,
that exceed the $15 U.S. is considering. So it is very easily do-able in the U.S. if forced to do.

Family restaurants might be higher increase in items, but that would be based on regions.

[Maraya1969]

79. It would probably work out cheaper for people like me who used to be waitstaff

and consistently over tip because I know how poorly they are paid. Making the menu items more expensive and just tipping regular would probably cost me a lot less money.

I even tip at places like Subway now because I know they are not being paid a living wage. And these places know that which really pisses me off! At one point I swore I wouldn't tip at these places but then I realized I was only hurting the employees. We need legislation to force the employers to pay them more.

[634-5789]

69. GREED. Pure and simple,it's greed.

[JohnSJ]

2. It is almost guaranteed that the repugs are going to say that the UE benefits is why people

are not going back to work based on today's numbers.

It is BS, and doesn't factor in that significant parts of the country are still not opened, kids are not back in school, many jobs will not come back because some businesses are gone forever, etc.

This is the best argument why we need the infrastructure plan

[FalloutShelter]

6. Same old shite from Republicans...

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This is what they said about welfare. Give Americans relief, and you are training them to be lazy bastards.
Same shite, different year. Stimulus=Welfare.

[ZonkerHarris]

51. Give rich folks money to help the economy but giving poor folks money hurts it - Every Republican

[JHB]

27. Beyond "almost guaranteed", they're already doing it.

[getagrip_already]

32. There was a post yesterday abut a bill in ....

I think it was Montana which would eliminate UI as an emergency measure to fight a lack of workers.

Of course it wasn't immigration lock downs that had any impacts on the low wage workforce. Of course not. It must be lazy workers.

[JohnSJ]

41. How will they answer for those where the jobs aren't there

[getagrip_already]

43. republicans? Answer? lol.... n/t

[TraceNC]

74. It's already decided there and SC as well.

It will catch on in other red states.

[TreasonousBastard]

3. I'm sure it did. Sitting at home collecting a UE check is often actually preferable to dealing...

with shit bosses, shit customers, and a shit job with screaming kids, side work and stolen tips.

For just a little more than the UE check.

[captain queeg]

14. UI would normally be less than someone makes. With the added federal benefit

It could potentially be more than they make working I’m not against it but it probably does lead to some people not wanting to return to their shit jobs.

[abenavraham2020]

52. BUT, if the employer is CALLING back their previously employed workers and the employe refuses,

then the employee LOSES unemployment when them employer reports them, so I don't get the employer complaint. Is the employer trying to expand his workforce and not finding willing victims to work for starvation wages???

[TreasonousBastard]

63. The answer is, of course, better pay and working conditions. Fat chance, though.

[ret5hd]

4. If I saw that sign I'd ask for the owner/manager...

and tell them $2.15 isn’t the MAXIMUM federal wage, you inbred dumbasses.

[2naSalit]

15. If I saw that sign, I would make sure they knew...

I read it and decided I didn't want to do business there because they were probably ripping off heir staff and that's why they won't come back. But I'd walk out loudly.

[HAB911]

5. nothing will change

unless people tell management they are willing to pay for service. pay a damn living wage or close up shop

[lark]

7. Fuck the rich restaurant owners.

Since you refuse to pay your workers a livable wage, they can't work for you. Freaking idiots.

[treestar]

8. According to the rules of capitalism

that means the value of labor has gone up. They should try raising their wage offer.

[Beartracks]

81. This right here.

If no one buys your product, you lower the price.

And if no one wants to work for your wages, you raise the wage.

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[DBoon]

9. and I want to buy a Ferrari for $500

Doesn't mean anyone would sell one for that price.

[Iggo]

10. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say maskholes are shitty tippers.

Which makes it twice as worse.

[LakeArenal]

20. Not only that, but if there is no business,

There’s no tips. It’s a speculation game to work for tips.

[forgotmylogin]

49. And the dining room service is going to be particularly thin...

Most people I know are either not eating out or doing it *very* occasionally so even if everyone who did tips well they're not going to make a living wage. The tips aren't going to be good for servers for a continued period of time.

Since their service is slow, they should consider offering minimum wage or better and hire less staff.

[wnylib]

11. Some things don't change.

After the devastating first bout of the Plague in Europe (1348 to 1350) peasants were able to demand higher wages, and to move off the land that they had been bound to.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

18. Thank you. I was going to mention that.

The Plague essentially ended feudalism in Western Europe, and improved life a lot for the lower classes.

[IronLionZion]

26. That would be interesting if today's plague does the same nt

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

35. I certainly won't make any such predictions,

but things are going to change a whole lot more because of Covid-19 than anyone realizes as this point.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

80. Maybe it will end capitalism

This time..one can hope..

We can do better than fucking capitalism.
Better than the zero sum,bullshit.

[malaise]

25. Great post

They will soon discover that everything changed with Covid 19

[Solly Mack]

37. Yep

[niyad]

12. Based on the images that I am seeing, there is no way that I would eat there. The outdoor

sign is in bad shape. The carpeting looks worn, the gouges in the wood, the dirt on the floor. And, of course, spouting reichwing talking points, in the middle of a pandemic. Pay a living, thriving wage, assholes.

[LaMouffette]

13. AND those tips are taxed! AND waitstaff are often expected to share their tips with the rest of

the staff, such as the people who bus the tables and the cooks. Not that those folks don't work their asses off too, but they don't have to interact with the customers, who can be quite obnoxious at times. Waitstaff should receive at the very least the minimum wage, by law, and their tips should NOT be taxed, in my opinion.

Can you imagine a CEO sharing his "tips" (bonuses) with other workers at his or her company? Some do, I know, but I think they are the exception.

[Joe Nation]

16. They want free employees by making the customers pay for the workers.

Watch them go on Fox and whine about being undercut by the government unemployment payments when they are paying starvation wages.

[Brother Mythos]

17. The owner of the garage I've been going to for over forty years told me today ...

that they're extremely busy, but he hasn't been able to hire any new mechanics. He told me he called the local tech school, but the instructor he spoke with told him the school has no one in their classes right now who is good enough yet to send over to his shop.

I didn't ask the owner what his starting pay rate was, but the mechanics working for him right now have been there for decades, and they're all top notch professionals.

I honestly don't know what to make of this particular situation.

[Tree Lady]

19. I have upped my tips to 25%

I don't go anywhere where tips go to owners. Really I rarely go out.

[dalton99a]

23. +1. Best to give cash directly to the server

[Bantamfancier]

73. Agree with the cash tip.

Put the meal on a card but leave cash for the waitstaff.
Bless my wife, it’s been 40 years since she waited tables in college but she still remembers how hard it was and insists on 25% rounded up to the next dollar.
I think I’ll keep her.

[dalton99a]

21. Greedy asshole owners are publicly shaming and stereotyping the unemployed.

[RegularJam]

36. Well said.

Using their business structure that only financially benefits the owner to shit on people they barely pay and to make a dishonest political point.

[JohnnyRingo]

22. McDonalds here is offering $13. I saw it on their sign today.

Republicans can bitch all they want, but we'll see a $15 minimum wage without an act of congress.

It's become a worker's job market, something employers haven't seen since 1971. Gone are the days when job applicants didn't dare ask how much a job pays until they were hired.

[Merlot]

24. People who were waitstaff have found delivery, driver, and grocery jobs

Driving around in their car beats putting up with customers and hoping for a tip. If they do a gig they see exactly how much money they'll make and the tip is extra. They can be selective about the time they work and which gigs they accept. Easy to see why it's preferable.

[shanti]

68. Exactly

My son was a server in a very busy LA restaurant before covid. He was making good money too with his tips. But it's nothing compared to what he's making now with Uber/Lyft. AND he gets to set his own hours. You do the math.

[Kaleva]

28. There's a serious shortage of truckers, welder, plumbers, electricians, carpenters and so on

And these jobs usually pay quite well.

[Elessar Zappa]

44. Could be

that some people are still reluctant to return to work while the pandemic continues.

[Kaleva]

53. This has been going on even before COVID19 hit.

Not enough people are interested in a career in the trades.

My youngest step-son, a high school drop out, got a job as a fabricator (welder's helper) at a local company not long after he got out of jail. He proved to be a good and reliable worker and was pestering his bosses to let him try welding. They trained him and now he's a certified welder and makes just over 60k a year. Not bad for a 26 y/o old high school drop out who owns his own home.

[JI7]

82. I think the problem is that high schools ignore those jobs and all the focus

is on getting the 4 year degree .

But the fact is that many people would be better off in these type of jobs. They also make it easier to go into business on your own .

[stillcool]

29. I got unemployment once, but it

wasn't as much as what I made working. Guess things have changed...a lot.

[patphil]

30. That's $5.10 BELOW the Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour!

And that hasn't changed in almost 12 years!

Who do they expect to get for such small compensation? It's not reasonable to expect their staff will make it up on tips.
I could have made this much waiting tables while in college back in the 1960's.

[getagrip_already]

38. there are different wage rates for people who get tips, farm workers, etc....

It isn't a one rate fits all law. It should be, but isn't.

[patphil]

42. Yes, I know that. And, as you say, it shouldn't be that way.

Labor is labor, and should have equal minimum value regardless of the job.
It wouldn't be so bad if the minimum wage kept up with the cost of living, but it isn't.
I worked in the restaurant industry for a while many years ago, and I know that everybody involved in that business works their butts off.

[LakeArenal]

31. A bit off topic but we were at a restaurant that required us to read the menu with a Q code.

No hard copy of the menu.
Bunch of old ladies. Only one had a phone. We had to one by one read the menu.

We asked why no menu. Because they want to be able to change it without notice.

Why not update the web site? Instead of aQcode. Anyway we thought that was very customer unfriendly and doubt we’ll go back.

It so annoying when you plan something special at a restaurant, look at the website for days trying to figure out what you want to eat, you get there and they don’t serve it anymore. That’s happened numerous times to us.

PS. I found people that are hungry are overly demanding many times. Servers do not make the menu. Nor do they cook the food.

Additionally, a really good server is as hard to find as a really good employee everywhere. You need to pay them.

[sir pball]

54. The QR code/online menu is a sanitary precaution

Back at the start of this, 13 months ago, there was no small concern in the restaurant industry about cross-contamination/viral transmission via menus, which isn't a terribly nonsensical concern. Some places publicly sanitized the laminated menus, some went to single-use menus printed on the inkjet in the office, and a lot decided to just use a QR code pointing to the web menu. If phone availability is a problem you can ask for a hard copy, I'm sure they probably have at least a few kicking around in back.

It's actually been a good thing; web menus were, as you pointed out, often a poorly-maintained afterthought, but if it's your active table menu you absolutely will keep it up to date.

[RegularJam]

33. I've been to multiple restaurants recently.

All fully staffed. Great service. Ownership and management matters.

If you don’t pay a livable wage and the business you run doesn’t entice people to tip really well you shouldn’t be in business.

[Aviation Pro]

34. Leave Your

Walking, uninformed, shitheel opinions to yourselves, fucksticks or change your fucking sandwich board to:

"No one wants to work for indentured servant wages anymore."

[GulfCoast66]

39. No one ever mentions the number of hours they are scheduled either

Often time the employer makes sure the average is under 30 hours a week to resist paying Medical benefits. Yeah, they work your ass off on weekends and holidays. Then you go several weeks with 18 hours scheduled.

[BobTheSubgenius]

40. I wouldn't imagine the working environment has gotten any better, either.

Wearing a mask is minor, especially considering the possible outcomes, but it's still annoying and feels restrictive.

Much worse, though, is the "eating public." Not everyone fits into this characterization, but a fair number of patrons are more belligerent than ever. They're frustrated with their lives these days, and think restaurant employees are a good venting opportunity, because they have to listen and (try to) remain polite.

[dlk]

45. People don't change until they have to, including miserly employers

With poverty-level wages, at some point certain jobs won't get filled. Then, employers can either change their business model or close. I'm hopeful the pendulum is beginning to swing to benefit workers.

[MOMFUDSKI]

46. If you pay them

they will come. Simple. I hope they stay away in droves. Almost as good as a general strike. An idiot ex-neighbor stopped by yesterday and I mentioned that the fast food places can't find enough workers. He said because they are getting all that free money. These shitheads are ALL OVER THE PLACE.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

47. Tennessee is a RIGHT to WORK state...

The right to work for the lowest wages .

Republicans in Minnesota want to do the same. We won't let them.

When we are in a RIGHT to Work state, we tip a minimum 20% in cash because we know how much they make. They are grateful for the money.

[Sibelius Fan]

48. The waiter/bartender staffs at every restaurant I ever worked at

pooled tips. That means that worst/laziest/least-personable workers get the same cut of the tips as the best employees. Of course, things tend to work out as the best employees tend to get assigned the best/busiest shifts money-wise, but there’s still an unfairness built into the system.

[KPN]

50. Gall dang Democrats! Stop giving all these people unemployment and covid relief money so

they'll come back to work. Stop taking our freedoms away!




F'ing evil morons. Has it ever occurred to you that if you pay them a wage they can actually live on, they'll work gladly?

[TexasTowelie]

55. Kitchen help and bussers are not tipped employees

so they don't get paid the $2.15 an hour. Those employees are paid the minimum wage whether it is the federal or state minimum.

[GumboYaYa]

57. Wow, that was what I got paid for bartending 30 years ago.....

Back then it was an okay salary. With tips I could make $200 plus a shift. It enabled me to pay for my college and living expenses. But I am shocked that the pay rate has not increased in 30 years.

[Kaleva]

58. Back in the '70's, I made $1.50 an hour with no tips doing farm work

[ProfessorGAC]

67. When I Was In College...

...I worked weekends & summers as a janitor.
The first year I got $2.65/hr. The other 2 years were $3 & $3.20.
That was the mid-70s.
And these idiots think it's ok to pay $2.15 in 2021.

[LittleGirl]

59. 1980, I made 2.01 an hour plus tips

Restaurant owners need to pay up or shut up.

Slave wages are never going to be tolerated during a pandemic! I never worked over 35 hours a week and health insurance was 20 bucks a paycheck. I also had to claim 8% tips on sales whether I made that average or not.

Pay up or shut up.

[Blue Owl]

64. Kaitlyn Jenner's rich friends would move out of the state if they saw that

[meadowlander]

65. He seems like an asshole to work for .

There's still a pandemic on, if he hadn't noticed. Leaving aside enhanced unemployment, who is going to risk their life for $2.15 an hour plus tips knowing that the restaurant is going to be three quarters empty anyway?

[DonCoquixote]

66. even in florida

The local MCds had to advertise they were raising the pay to 11 dollars an hour.

[Luciferous]

70. If I saw a sign like that they wouldn't be getting my business.

[Iggo]

72. They would very loudly be not getting my business.

[gldstwmn]

71. $2.13 an hour was what I made when I was

in the industry in the late 90's.

[betsuni]

75. What a Kitchen Nightmare.

I'd like to see Gordon Ramsay go in there.

[liberal_mama]

76. Maybe they don't want to work for peanuts for the idiot that made that sign!

If I walked into a business and saw a sign like that, I'd leave immediately.

[Xolodno]

77. Going to guess it never occurred to them...

...their staff being off work for about a year, they may:

1. Find new and better paying jobs.

2. Took some courses online and now have skills to get better jobs.

3. Other restaurants are paying more.

4. Even with the crappy pay with gig work, it's probably still better pay wise.

People tend to be risk adverse when they have a stable job, once they don't, they move on and often wonder why they didn't sooner.

[The Mouth]

83. If you don't tip at least 20% you are a shit person

white, black, female, male. Democrat, Republican

Shitty tippers are worthless people and execrable human beings. No excuses, no explanations, no 'cultural differences' count.