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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:19 PM May 2021

Charles Blow: "Liz Cheney, We have a memory. You're no hero"

Representative Liz Cheney may lose her leadership role among House Republicans because she hasn’t been slavishly loyal to Donald Trump and the lies he fed the Republican Party.

Not only did Cheney vote to impeach Trump in January, she also insists that Republicans — who continue to happily regurgitate his lies — tell the truth. (I’m fake-clutching my fake pearls.)
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This has lifted Cheney to a sort of hero status in the media and political circles. A Joan of Arc in our collective battle against the Big Lie who is willing to let herself be burned at the political stake and to become a martyr for conviction and moral clarity.

It is a good thing that Cheney is standing on principle and insisting on telling the truth. But that is quite the low bar for a heroine designation.
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Yes, it is better that Liz Cheney stands up for the truth about Trump and the election than to oppose it, which puts her at odds with a political party in which truth is the enemy.

But her present position does not expunge her past positions. The sword she’s falling on is one she has spent her political career brandishing.

If Cheney is punished by her own party, I will not applaud, but I also will not sob. I sit silently in acknowledgment, as one does, when karma swings low and performs its function.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/opinion/liz-cheney-republicans.html
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Charles Blow: "Liz Cheney, We have a memory. You're no hero" (Original Post) StarfishSaver May 2021 OP
Liz Cheney is not a nice person LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #1
Perhaps we need a two party sytem, but do we need THIS party? Caliman73 May 2021 #9
No, her past positions doesn't exonerate her but... Rustyeye77 May 2021 #2
I don't mind watching the Republican war on itself lunatica May 2021 #3
I don't mind watching the Republican war on itself lunatica May 2021 #4
K&R Solly Mack May 2021 #5
She's loving Dems not being on her side, of course. gulliver May 2021 #6
K&R UTUSN May 2021 #7
Oh hell yes. yardwork May 2021 #8
Even a villain can be a hero subsequently andym May 2021 #10
The force is strong with you, andym. Rustyeye77 May 2021 #11
:) nt. andym May 2021 #13
because the current issue is nearly self serving, she's just doing the minimum for what's right ... uponit7771 May 2021 #12

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,667 posts)
1. Liz Cheney is not a nice person
Fri May 7, 2021, 03:56 PM
May 2021

I do not like Liz Cheney as a person and I hate her politics. I am hoping that the Cheney family will be able to outlast the former guy because we need a two party system.

Caliman73

(11,752 posts)
9. Perhaps we need a two party sytem, but do we need THIS party?
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:36 PM
May 2021

Conservatives just have a BAD ideology. It has held back progress toward a more equal and humane society for a long time. I mean from when Democrats were the conservatives in the 1800's to now that the Republicans are the conservatives.

An oppositional party system may have some benefits (though the jury is still out on that) but if you have one party ideology that promotes racism, greed, and unjust hierarchy, and the other that promotes moderate progress, the balance is all skewed and we end up where we are now.

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
2. No, her past positions doesn't exonerate her but...
Fri May 7, 2021, 04:01 PM
May 2021

in this case, I give her some credit for telling the truth and standing up for principles.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. I don't mind watching the Republican war on itself
Fri May 7, 2021, 04:14 PM
May 2021

Cheney is just a casualty of friendly fire. But I really don’t want to see the MAGA party replace the Republican Party. They’ll reinstate Trump as fast as they can. I don’t want to imagine what will happen after that. I really don’t!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. I don't mind watching the Republican war on itself
Fri May 7, 2021, 04:15 PM
May 2021

Cheney is just a casualty of friendly fire. But I really don’t want to see the MAGA party replace the Republican Party. They’ll reinstate Trump as fast as they can. I don’t want to imagine what will happen after that. I really don’t!

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
6. She's loving Dems not being on her side, of course.
Fri May 7, 2021, 06:29 PM
May 2021

The more Dems put her down, the better she'll do in Republican politics.

andym

(5,445 posts)
10. Even a villain can be a hero subsequently
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:44 PM
May 2021

In fiction, think of Darth Vader at the end of the original Star Wars trilogy. So I'm not sure I understand the criticism.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
12. because the current issue is nearly self serving, she's just doing the minimum for what's right ...
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:57 PM
May 2021

... the rest of those people are sellouts to what America stands for.

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