"One out of every six adult workers whose primary health insurance comes from an employer are stayin

[soothsayer]

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Hari Kunzru
@harikunzru
US health system is primarily a form of social control. If the right was serious about freedom, they would accept that decoupling access to a doctor from employer insurance would be the greatest liberating force in modern US history.

Physicians for a National Health Program
“One out of every six adult workers whose primary health insurance comes from an employer are staying in jobs they might otherwise leave out of fear of losing their health benefits.” #MedicareForAll https://bit.ly/3el2NkS via @GallupNews

[IcyPeas]

1. only 1 in 6? I would bet it's much higher.

[LakeArenal]

3. Exactly.

[Freddie]

2. My 62 yo husband would retire tomorrow

If the Medicare age was lowered.

[exboyfil]

4. My employer used to offer a bridge to Medicare for employees

retiring. They got rid of it for employees that joined after 2000 or so. They are starting to feel the impact of the change. They used to benefit from employees retiring in their late 50s and coming back for years on contract (helps to smooth the market variance employment). I am 58 now, and they will have to push me out the door before I turn 68 which is my intended retirement age (so that my wife will qualify for Medicare). They have basically lost that pool of trained employees.

I assume some economists have analyzed the impact of the friction associated with employment decisions made because of healthcare benefits.

[Deuxcents]

5. This is not the way to run a health care system

Some employers offer health coverage, some don’t. I’m retired n my retirement benefits are a big help but now they’re pushing for Advantage Medicare programs n I don’t want to sign on. I’m with original Medicare n get a break with my supplemental insurance...sometime I wonder why I need that as they don’t cover much. Anyway.. I don’t get why so many other countries have settled this issue long ago n we still have a mess. O, wait..yes, I do. My god..the insurance top brass would not get those big bonuses n we are so wrapped up, it’s gonna take forever to unwind. Nutz. IMO

[JohnQFunk]

8. ... which is another argument for bringing back the "maximum wage" this time as a 99% tax on...

… all combined income, dividend, and capital gains above $5,000,000/yr.

Goodbye bonus culture.

[Efilroft Sul]

6. I've long said that social control is a cost of doing business.

One would think that companies and corporations would be eager to have Medicare for All and offload insurance expenses from their books, but then the workers would be free to tell them "Take this job and shove it." And we can't have that in America.

[soothsayer]

7. The velvet rut

[jimfields33]

9. I remember when they said if we get rid of pensions, wages will go up. Ha!

We won’t believe that lie again.

[Hoyt]

10. Truthfully, with Obama Care and Cobra, employees who can get another job with health coverage

are quite free to quit. Obviously, not as easy for those living paycheck to paycheck.

Back 25 some years ago, I had two insurance policies just so I could tell my employer to stuff it, "nope, I ain't moving" or whatever. Back, then, you had to worry about getting sick -- even getting fired for being sick -- and never finding an insurance company that would cover you because of a preexisting condition. One of the policies was through my employer, the other I paid for completely but never used. It was my "insurance."

I think the main reason employers don't jump at Medicare-for-All is because they know the only way the government can afford it will be to levy a tax on employers. But the employer won't get any of the credit for paying that tax. The government could levy the tax -- basically premiums -- on employees, but that would set off unprecedented anger among 150 Million people.

[brewens]

11. The problem i had with Joe saying many Americans love their health plan was that

it's not the plan, it's the part of their compensation it represents that they like. If their plan is a little less crappy than the other guys, they think they're on top.

To sell Medicare for all, workers have to know they won't lose anything on the deal.