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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Sat May 8, 2021, 08:06 PM May 2021

Aggressively share this with those who think paying burger flippers a living wage will somehow resul


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@BotheredBoy
Aggressively share this with those who think paying burger flippers a living wage will somehow result in $20 Big Macs or whatever.




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@wilshipley
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May 8, 2021
Replying to @BotheredBoy and @jckarter
Dick’s Drive-In




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Aggressively share this with those who think paying burger flippers a living wage will somehow resul (Original Post) soothsayer May 2021 OP
I used to know the pay scale for Zingerman's Delicatessen in Ann Arbor, quite comparable. niyad May 2021 #1
Been there before; as a retiree, I don't see the value in paying $18 for a corned beef sandwich. MichMan May 2021 #12
The tRumper gas station owner down the street multigraincracker May 2021 #2
I'm a little disappointed that you gave him good advice! BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #7
I try to be nice to everyone. But, multigraincracker May 2021 #13
Fair enough! BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #14
Certainly share with this person... East-A-Squared May 2021 #3
In and Out Burger has been paying $15+ for years in some areas. Mr.Bill May 2021 #4
This!!!! Claustrum May 2021 #10
I don't know about Dick's, but In-n-Out makes a truly excellent burger at reasonable prices... Hekate May 2021 #5
I have more than once read that PoindexterOglethorpe May 2021 #6
My niece works part time in a restaurant and HAD to work double shift because they were short and a keithbvadu2 May 2021 #8
If MAGAts can't even see the truth that the soldierant May 2021 #9
Is $17 per hour a living wage in Seattle ? MichMan May 2021 #11

niyad

(113,283 posts)
1. I used to know the pay scale for Zingerman's Delicatessen in Ann Arbor, quite comparable.
Sat May 8, 2021, 08:23 PM
May 2021

Imagine paying your staf a living, thriving wage. What a concept.

I think we now have an In-n-out burger here. Alas, it is clear up on the northeast side of town.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
12. Been there before; as a retiree, I don't see the value in paying $18 for a corned beef sandwich.
Sun May 9, 2021, 12:32 AM
May 2021

multigraincracker

(32,674 posts)
2. The tRumper gas station owner down the street
Sat May 8, 2021, 08:30 PM
May 2021

was crying because no one will work for him for $11/hr. I explained to him it's just like his gas prices. When they go up he sells less gas. If he were to pay $15/hr the good workers from other places would come work for him. He still doesn't get it.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
7. I'm a little disappointed that you gave him good advice!
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:40 PM
May 2021

But it restores my faith in people like that owner. Always do the wrong thing.

East-A-Squared

(14,505 posts)
3. Certainly share with this person...
Sat May 8, 2021, 09:30 PM
May 2021



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Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
4. In and Out Burger has been paying $15+ for years in some areas.
Sat May 8, 2021, 09:58 PM
May 2021

One of the things that allow them to do this is they are not a franchise but are all privately owned by the same person. This means they are not burdened with paying a franchise fee every month. It also means they produce all their own goods and have control over the quality, price and consistency of those goods.

35 years ago I sold franchises (not the food business) and I can tell you they are a bad business model. The business plan we provided for franchisees always included the lower end of the pay rate for our industry. That's why so many of them fail and In and Out Burgers don't. There are also other factors in play such as In and Out exclusively promotes from within. You've got a much better shot at a decent career there than you do at Taco Bell or Subway, so you turn over less help.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
10. This!!!!
Sat May 8, 2021, 11:01 PM
May 2021

Franchise fees and rent affect how much the food cost way more than paying someone $15 an hour.

Hekate

(90,671 posts)
5. I don't know about Dick's, but In-n-Out makes a truly excellent burger at reasonable prices...
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:02 PM
May 2021

All the while being a good citizen and employer.

It can be done, because some employers are actually doing it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
6. I have more than once read that
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:37 PM
May 2021

upping wages has an astonishingly small impact on the cost of things like food in a restaurant. Every time I read such an analysis, it says that food prices will rise maybe 20 or 30 cents overall. I have no idea how much that trivial increase depends on other things staying the same. It is clear to me that burger flippers and their ilk deserve a living wage.

I've had my share of jobs at minimum wage, and I'm old enough to know when minimum wage was close to a living wage. So I know what it's like to try to subsist on minimum wage, and I don't wish that on anyone.

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
8. My niece works part time in a restaurant and HAD to work double shift because they were short and a
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:42 PM
May 2021

My niece works part time in a restaurant and HAD to work double shift because they were short and a waitress did not come in.

I asked if she got overtime or extra pay........ fat chance!

She got a better job and put in her notice.

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
9. If MAGAts can't even see the truth that the
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:56 PM
May 2021

2020 election went overwhelmingly for Biden, how can we expect them to see thr truth of this, which is mor complex?

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
11. Is $17 per hour a living wage in Seattle ?
Sun May 9, 2021, 12:29 AM
May 2021

I heard that the cost of living was high there because of housing costs?

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