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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:39 PM May 2021

I think, all these "Stop the Steal"-Republicans don't actually give a shit whether Trump won or not.

I think, Trump is not a person to them. He is merely a symbol, a meme, a culture-war issue, an excuse to oppose the liberals on SOMETHING.

Conspiracy-theorists don't actually care about their conspiracy-theories. They only care about the CONSEQUENCES. Their conspiracy-theories are merely reverse-engineered excuses to create the alternate reality they want.
e.g. the alternate reality where they are heroes who oppose some big evil conspiracy.



It's the same with "Stop The Steal". It's not about whether or not Trump won. It's about maintaining the republican alternate reality where liberals are evil. Claiming that liberals stole the election is merely a rationale that was made up after-the-fact to justify the alternate reality that liberals are evil.

Republicans hate the Democrats. So, the Republicans NEED to be in opposition to whatever the Democrats say. If the Democrats say that Biden won the election, then the Republicans MUST say it was stolen.



This is not about Trump or Biden. This is about people who have made their life-goal to hate someone or something and who don't actually care who or what it is they hate or why. Without someone or something to hate, their lives become meaningless and they go back to being average nobodies.

As long as they hate, they are somebody. If they stop hating, they turn back into nobodies. So they keep on hating.
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I think, all these "Stop the Steal"-Republicans don't actually give a shit whether Trump won or not. (Original Post) DetlefK May 2021 OP
I think you are right. Claustrum May 2021 #1
The same with the 2016 election keithbvadu2 May 2021 #2
It's really all they've got. TreasonousBastard May 2021 #3
You're probably right, but many are getting their arms twisted FakeNoose May 2021 #4
I would add that having an external bogeyman to, beyond hate, also blame for their problems gives RockRaven May 2021 #5
I Buy It! ProfessorGAC May 2021 #6
+100 Thanks! abqtommy May 2021 #7
Exactly. WarGamer May 2021 #8
I think it's also about keeping up the grift. They need these people to believe Johonny May 2021 #9
It's an excuse for them to not do any real work. Mr.Bill May 2021 #10
The Russian Psyops program Thunderbeast May 2021 #11

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
1. I think you are right.
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:44 PM
May 2021

I've heard or read that they think anything is better than a "liberal". So no matter what Trump did or didn't do, it never mattered to them. Because the alternative would be a "liberal" and that's unacceptable to them.

And the last 5 years is clearly an example of that. It's like whatever position democrats take, they just have to be on the opposite side, no matter how ridiculous their position is. You think it's a good idea to wear a mask to limit transmission, we oppose it cause it invades my rights. But clearly, wearing a mask is just the right thing to do but nope, democrats wanted it so they oppose it.

keithbvadu2

(36,776 posts)
2. The same with the 2016 election
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:52 PM
May 2021

Trump was supposedly the only candidate who could not beat Hillary.

Yet, it was not so much that Trump won.

To the GQP, it was that Hillary lost.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
4. You're probably right, but many are getting their arms twisted
Sun May 9, 2021, 03:26 PM
May 2021

... they're being forced to support this "Stop the Steal" nonsense, or they won't get funding from the RNC for their next campaign. That's how vindictive Chump is, and he still controls the purse strings until the Party kicks him out.

When do you think that will happen? Not until the Repuke Party finally gets disgusted with Chump, and suddenly one day he'll be gone.

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
5. I would add that having an external bogeyman to, beyond hate, also blame for their problems gives
Sun May 9, 2021, 03:34 PM
May 2021

them an excuse to avoid looking inward at how their own decisions and actions (commission or omission) have led them to their current sad states.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
6. I Buy It!
Sun May 9, 2021, 03:51 PM
May 2021

Also, I think it's a "marketing" ploy to continue the need to sell "vote security" legislation.
If they capitulate to the reality that T***p lost big in a fair fight, selling voter changes is way harder.
And, without making it hard to vote, they won't win in the future.

Johonny

(20,835 posts)
9. I think it's also about keeping up the grift. They need these people to believe
Sun May 9, 2021, 07:54 PM
May 2021

not only that Trump won, but that they're the majority. If the base ever clued in that they're a fringe minority cult of personality of a man with no personality with no platform, no policies, and are seen as huge suckers by the rest of us ... the gravy train would be over.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
10. It's an excuse for them to not do any real work.
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:05 PM
May 2021

We have republicans in Congress in their second or third terms who have never accomplished anything. I bet if you looked at their personal lives and careers before politics you would find more of the same.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
11. The Russian Psyops program
Sun May 9, 2021, 09:18 PM
May 2021

...is working pretty well.

Even with their stooges out of power (for now), they have paralyzed the democracy. They have a third of the country willing to sacrifice the founding principles of the nation to further their grievances.

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