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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeSantis is going down and not for the reason people think.
South Floridas ecosystem has been on the brink of disaster for some time. For decades Florida politicians have been putting bandaids on a gaping wound, or flat out cheering for the polluters to win. A number of things are coming to a head all at once.
The images coming out of south Florida, starting next month, will be shocking. Its often not the stories that take dots being connected. Political careers often die when things become visual.
We have destroyed the wetlands in south Florida and its coming to a head this year. This isnt some red tide event, though that will play a roll.
Its so bad that they havent been able to release water from Okeechobee as was needed. We are heading into rainy season with the lake too high. Its going to require a massive release at the exact wrong time.
So what is my prediction that thinks it will be so bad that it does DeSantis in?
Images of...
Large portions of south central and south Florida waterways filled with blue green algae. It will be so thick that the top layers will be of a noticeably thicker viscosity. The color is bright and can be easily seen. This will lead to enormous fish kills and its impact will continue to be felt coming into the winter as manatees move in.
Increased red tide events. Increased in scale and scope. It will be at a scale not seen before. This is not only due to water temperature increases but the impact of other pollution will aid it even more.
What will end up being a necessary release of Lake Okeechobee will be the final salvo.
Its going to be more than hundreds of miles of dead fish. We will also be seeing dead reptiles and mammals.
We are in a lot of trouble with what weve done to our waterways. Its going to hit the tv screens like never before. The images will shock you.
We can blame it on big sugar but those at fault are the ones who are suppose to be protecting our shared resources.
The algae is already showing up thick in some areas. Already. The bloom is going to be unreal.
As someone who loves the Fl ecosystem this has actually put me in tears a number of times over the last decade.
Its not gradual anymore. This is the year.
TheBlackAdder
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JI7
(93,614 posts)in florida . A lot of exposing and uncovering the shit that went on and trying to fix the problems and move forward.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)I'm not a Floridian, so I don't know if he is up to the job, or if L voters would ever consider him again.
But, we shall see.
JI7
(93,614 posts)with things like allowing everyone to vote . I think him being Governor during Obama's first term instead of another republican was helpful in preventing republicans from cheating .
But some people who are from florida said he will probably not have a good chance at winning again .
RegularJam
(914 posts)Where Ive changed over the years is in my understanding that he actually does care. The FL ecosystem is something he cares deeply about. But Democrats cannot currently win a statewide race in FL.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)DeSantis plans to run again for governor, as far as I know, unless he can garner a higher Republican nomincation, i.e., President or VP.
RegularJam
(914 posts)1) DeSantis isnt the only Republican in the state.
2) Im not confident he will be running again.
I believe DeSantis has declared but the guy has political ambitions.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Glad he is a democrat and all. But he has held more positions than a ballet dancer.
Not saying he is not serious now. But he sure has changed a lot in the past. Republican supporting Bush and hoping to be McCains running mate. That fell through. Then an Independent. Then a democrat. Has lost 2 statewide races.
I dont see anyone currently in the mix who will beat DeSantis. Maybe Demings if she runs. Her law enforcement background would help with moderate independents.
Buddy Dyer the long time mayor of Orlando could but shows no interest. Hes folksy moderate in a Lawton Chiles manner but has helped turn Orlando in to a progressive city. It is apparent he want that to be his legacy and last political job. He is just not too ambitious.
Im not hopeful. Crist got in early hoping name recognition would drive off others. I dont see him popular with statewide democrats. If he gets the nomination I will support him strongly as I did Gillum. But like Gillum I will know we have a flawed candidate.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)Crist appears a little shop-worn for governor.
Congressman seems like a good fit, but he'll vacate that office if he gets nomination for governor or other office.
(Son lives in Sarasota, but he doesn't appear to be politically involved state-wide.)
calimary
(90,010 posts)Traildogbob
(13,017 posts)On her comedy tour With Mattie the minor molester at the Village last weekend. Her exact words . The GQP wants to make earth the most beautiful one on the planet. The MurKKKan dream, you can be anything you want to, even if you are an idiot.
hatrack
(64,878 posts)Wednesdays
(22,593 posts)by a player of a victorious Superbowl team at a rally a couple of days after the game in the 90's: "We're not just the greatest team in the world, we're the greatest team on the planet!"
Traildogbob
(13,017 posts)She is just STUPID. Does sniffing too much burnt gun power eat brain cells? The MAGAs kind of make that seem like a thing.
calimary
(90,010 posts)who wants you to think Republicans embrace free thought and debate.
Watch what they DO. NOT what they say. After all, talk is cheap.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)They simply want things and people destroyed, for the good of the right wing looney tunes.
dchill
(42,660 posts)Reality is not an issue to the Rabid Right.
JohnnyRingo
(20,868 posts)I'm being facetious, but the state could try to distract from environmental disaster by pushing the bright side out front. Disney World is wide open for fun in 2021!
Imallin4Joe
(885 posts)onethatcares
(16,992 posts)and the fact.....yes, FACT that the legislature and the DEP are going to allow deep injection of that poisoned water below the aquifier.
The state of the state of floriduh stinks in more ways than a red tide fish kill.
BTW: water temperature this morning in the close shore waters of the Gulf of Mexico near St Petersburg...84 degrees
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)We will still have high water temps in October. The blue green algae will be at its worst in September and October.
MoonlitKnight
(1,585 posts)In record numbers in the Indian River lagoon.
This summer is going to be a major environmental disaster. And it is just the start of at least a decade of problems- even if we flip Florida deep blue it will take a long time to turn it around.
RegularJam
(914 posts)After a tough summer with red tide, they will then move into their normal winter feeding grounds just to be met with a massive food shortage.
Many of the dead manatees were found to have starved to death.
womanofthehills
(10,988 posts)And as long as glyphosate is sprayed for weed control in Lake Okeechober you are adding toxic chemicals to the nitrogen from farming runoff feeding the algae changing the composition of the algee.
New Study Discovers Increasing Levels of Glyphosate in Blood of Florida Manatees
Posted on Mar 2021
A scientific study published last week concludes that Florida manatees are chronically exposed to glyphosate because of application of the herbicide to sugarcane and aquatic weeds.
The study found that the amount of glyphosate sprayed by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission to control aquatic weeds in Lake Okeechobee exceeded the sample waters, reaching up to 10,000 kilograms per year, and that the Army Corps Lake Okeechobee discharges result in high concentrations of glyphosate in the Caloosahatchee and St. Lucie rivers.
The study, published in Environment International, also found that manatees were exposed to glyphosate in non-agricultural areas, such as the Crystal River, and that exposure was higher during winter, when manatees depend on the warm water refuge. https://sustainablepulse.com/tag/roundup/#.YJraJr1OIlQ
RegularJam
(914 posts)These are things that feed algae. Its so messed up what they have done.
In my area they tightened down restrictions on fertilizer. It has had a noticeable and positive impact on Tampa Bay. Certain times of year it is against the law to sell or use specific fertilizers. Unincorporated areas and some corporations have loopholes.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I no longer fish south of Citrus County. Nothing left to catch. The big bend is still pretty pristine, but with the new toll roads coming that is coming to an end.
20 years ago I could catch 100 trout a day out of tarpon springs(limit of 7 back then. I was not killing 100 fish). Now the limit is 4 and you are lucky to catch that.
We were actually making headway until 2000. Then Jeb and his merry raiders took over and have had control since. We are basically back to the days of Disston, Broward and Flagler. Develop it all. Never met a swamp they valued.
lpbk2713
(43,273 posts)It's been a GOP show ever since Jeb Bush.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)over the summer. No mention of emergency authorizations.
"Unfortunately, that's been a little bit different now this year," DeSantis said. "Because of these high levels, we are assuming that the Corps is gonna be discharging some of this water with a lot of algae content."
U.S. Rep. Brian Mast, R-Florida, said the Army Corps of Engineers came to state officials last year and said it would be managing the lake differently in 2021.
"[The Army Corps] went into this with the wrong game plan," Mast said. "This approach to summer, not even into the hottest time of the year yet, shows that it was a totally incorrect way to go out there and manage the lake."
It's been several years since we considered a winter fishing shack (MH) at Okeechobee, but a couple of locals then said some of the MH parks/shore area sites are below the level of the lake and that flooding had long been a concern. True or not true, I don't know.
RegularJam
(914 posts)It is this high due to intentional decisions. DeSantis is already pushing propaganda.
Thank you for sharing.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)been able to tell the truth since the 1980s-90s, not if they care to be reelected and don't want themselves and their families ruined by vindictive former allies. And these days they'd have to worry about mobs.
Why intentional? What was gained? The usual?
RegularJam
(914 posts)Already spiking nutrients in inland waterways. We are already seeing blue green algae in places it hasnt been and we arent at its most favorable months. Okeechobee discharges are an enormous friend to blue green algae, along with other negatives. They are simply kicking the can down the road. Its acts of desperation.
These are the same people who acted like Piney Point was an overnight problem that we had to be saved from yet its been mismanaged for decades and has released millions of gallons of contaminated water for decades.
Republicans have put us in this spot. They have turned a blind eye to the devastating impact corps have had on our ecosystem and have virtually ignored the enormous amount of toxins being dumped.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)My husband used to fish the Terra Ceia waterways just south of Piney Point. He and his fellow fishermen talk about that, but our votes are in Georgia.
BannonsLiver
(20,589 posts)Hell be doomed by his handling of the environment.
Now hes in the senate, probably for life. This is pie in the sky dreaming. DeSantis will be a pain in our ass in some form or another for years, if not decades to come.
RegularJam
(914 posts)It is far different.
That said, Im sick of seeing the pending doom of politicians that Ive done here. Its almost always navel gazing. I accept your criticism in this area. Still, we didnt see manatee die offs under Scott. We havent seen waterways being suffocated like we already are this year. That point is important. Already in places we havent seen it and its just the beginning of bloom season.
Whether Im right about DeSantis taking a massive hit or not, please recognize the difference and that the disaster we have been talking about for decades has arrived.
BannonsLiver
(20,589 posts)It matters if Floridians who have shown themselves to be loyal GOP voters are outraged about the environment enough to vote for someone else. Im skeptical, based on a mountain of past evidence.
RegularJam
(914 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)are the questions. The pubs have gotten good at deflecting citizen passions and forced change in the wrong direction so that problems just keep getting bigger. But that can't continue forever.
We're hopefully at/near the end of a 40-year period of anti-government, anti-tax, anti-regulation, hard-core conservative domination. I think it would have happened years ago if increasing radicalization of half the nation wasn't the biggest and most dangerous of the problems that have grown to and past the point of forcing self-protective change.
Amishman
(5,929 posts)The deracho from Aug last year dropped out of the news in a matter of a day or two - despite causing 11 billion dollars in damage.
Sogo
(7,191 posts)has got to stink like crazy and have an effect on those living along that shore....
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I would love to see DeSatan go down, but I doubt this will be the cause. I expect it will be more to do with dead grannies stacked like cordwood, thanks to his aiding and abetting Trump's COVID genocide.
FakeNoose
(41,622 posts)People are going to get sick if the drinking water goes bad.
live love laugh
(16,383 posts)Tamurlane
(8 posts)...like they were for the 2008 recession.
Problem solved.