Most unvaccinated US adults don't want the shot

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Vaccine hesitancy has become the predominant mindset of Americans who have not yet been inoculated, making the drive for herd immunity ever more elusive.

Just 11% of American adults who remain unvaccinated say they definitely will get the shot, while 34% say they definitely won’t, according to a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. Another 27% say they probably will and 27% say they probably won’t.

The vaccination rush has slowed, and President Joe Biden is meeting virtually with six governors today to discuss how to revive momentum. Biden wants 70% of Americans vaccinated by the 4th of July. That's about what some experts say is needed to get the pandemic under control. Right now less than half of Americans had received at least one shot.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/most-unvaccinated-us-adults-dont-want-the-shot-fda-authorizes-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-12-to-15-year-olds-live-covid-19-updates/ar-BB1gBipk

#COVIDIOTs

[Hugin]

1. This is why we can't have nice things. n/t

[JoanofArgh]

2. If they haven't gotten vaccinated by now, they won't.

[soothsayer]

11. I don't think that's the case. Well, some maybe. But not all.

[BoringUsername]

18. Agreed

Some people who more recently became eligible haven't been able to make appointments in their area yet.

I was surprised to see an old, handicapped man getting his shot yesterday. I'm certain he was eligible back in February. Perhaps, some of the more timid people are starting to get it now that most people they know have gotten it.

[Crunchy Frog]

25. I'm still seeing people HERE talking about getting their first shot.

I don't think we're well served by this kind of absolutist attitude.

[dalton99a]

3. Ok. Let Jesus save them

Jesus works better than any vaccine anyway

[marble falls]

4. Send those shots to India, Africa, the Middle East. Send the refusers a note thanking them ...

... for risking their lives to save someone else's.

[Botany]

5. Fine then:

Don't go to an Ohio State or NFL game.

Don't go to a restaurant.

Don't go to school, college, or a university.

Don't go to a job.

Don't go to bar.

Don't get health insurance or medicare.

Don't go to your neighbors picnic.

Don't get on a train, a plane, or a bus.

Don't go to another country.

Fuck 'em let 'em die.

Do you see any iron lungs for polio anymore?

[Vinca]

20. Well said. My first thought was "fine, let them die." I don't see what these people should be

coddled, cajoled and bribed to get their vaccine shots. As they keep telling everyone, it's their body. If they don't mind lungs that might better be used as bookends, I don't really care.

[Silent3]

32. I'm much less annoyed by their lack of concern for their own health...

...than I am by their lack of concern for everyone's health. If it were just a personal risk, they could be as stupid as they like to be. But their fucking it up for everyone, risking becoming breeding grounds for variants that will overcome vaccine immunity.

[Moostache]

6. Start allowing vaccinated people to do things the unvaccinated can't...

They'll huff and they'll puff and they'll turn blue in the face to spite the rest of us, but if you make them PAY for being morons, they'll stop and they will get the vaccine to allow themselves to do what everyone else can.

[Celerity]

7. this is a huge problem nt

[GregariousGroundhog]

8. That still puts us on track for 70%.

About 68.7% of the population 16 and over has received at least one COVID vaccine. If all of the 38% of the people not yet vaccinated who definitely or will probably get vaccinated follow through with at least one shot, we'll end up with about 80.6% Americans age 16+ vaccinated with at least one shot.

About 51.4% of the population 16 and over is fully vaccinated against COVID. If 38% of the people not fully vaccinated get fully vaccinated, we'll end up with 69.9% of the Americans age 16+ fully vaccinated.

About 46.3% of the full population have been partially vaccinated and 34.8% fully vaccinated. With 12-15 age group eligible now, hopefully these whole population numbers spike in the coming weeks.

[Bev54]

9. Then there is us in Canada with 85% wanting to be vaccinated

but waiting for the vaccine. That is up from 76% in Feb, so the hesitancy is getting less as they see the world being ravished. That is one of the problems, I don't think a lot of those in the US are not seeing the World News.

[roamer65]

27. We should immediately start shipping huge amounts of vaccine to Canada.

I want that damn border open.

[Bev54]

28. I agree we would love more vaccine

I have to say, some of the border states have been very generous by vaccinating our truckers that travel back and forth, so Thank you.

[roamer65]

29. The Province of Michigan?

[Bev54]

38. I haven't heard if Michigan is helping but

Montana and Idaho are.

[womanofthehills]

49. We sent Canada the 300,000 J&J vaccines from Emergent

The lab we closed down because of safety violations. We will not give those to Americans but we sent them to Mexico and Canada.


(Reuters) -Canada’s drug regulator said on Friday that doses of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine recently delivered to the country were produced at a Baltimore plant where the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) halted production.

Health Canada said in a statement that it will hold the vaccine doses until it is satisfied they meet its standards, and is consulting with J&J and the FDA. The first shipment of 300,000 J&J vaccine doses arrived in Canada earlier this week. https://www.metro.us/canada-receives-jjs-covid-19/

[LisaL]

37. New York has plans to allow tourists to be vaccinated while there.

Not sure if it would apply to international tourists.

[gulliver]

10. That's tough. They get the shot or they're second rate people...

...and should experience privilege levels in accordance with their lower status.

(Obviously, those who don't get the shot for medically valid reasons are an exception. But the slackers and the worry warts aren't. Time to grow up and get sane.)

[underpants]

12. "Vaccine hesitancy" please. It's trying not to hurt their little feelings

I guess dumbass is too straightforward

[Bev54]

30. Actually I have a friend who is hesitant only because she thinks the

vaccine is too new and she is afraid of side affects down the road. I talked to her this morning about another friend of mine who, two years younger than her and he was rushed to the hospital and put into an induced coma within a day of being tested positive. He was in the coma for 10 days before he came out, still cannot speak. He lives in the same city as both of us and when I told her how careful he was (he got it from a business partner), she is now going to make an appointment to get the vaccine. I have siblings that are antivaxxers who I will not even waste my time trying to convince them otherwise, they are lost but there are still some that just need that push.

[Bleacher Creature]

13. Then they shouldn't be allowed to rejoin society.

If they're not willing to do the basics to protect others (much less themselves), they should be required to stay home.

[JT45242]

14. Things will skew positively starting about Friday when 12-15 year olds can get the shot

I have a HS freshman (14) who hates shots.... screams about tetanus booster...cried over HPV and meningitis...who is demanding to get this one along with all his friends many of whom live in deeply red parts of Iowa.

He and his friends are desperate for safely meeting face to face -- going to summer camp, doing things that have been denied them for the last 15 months.

That will hopefully push us in the right direction -- plus it is really the only way to insure that schools don't become superspreaders in the fall when everyone will have to go back to crowded old school buildings with bad ventilation.

Assuming the CDC follows the FDA tomorrow in giving the Pfizer EUA, then there will be a wave of JH and HS kids who want to have normal school, band, choir, sports, etc without helping to spread a deadly virus to their friends, parents, and grandparents.

Eventually, schools will hopefully put this on the required vaccination list. If you don't want a vaccine -- fine -- forfeit your right to a free public education. You can home school, but you will not receive a dime of taxpayer money for books, supplies, etc. Do the same to private schools -- if they allow anyone who is not vaccinated without a valid MEDICAL reason (allergic to vaccine, compromised immune system) they forfeit all their Title funds and those funds revert to the public school of record based on the student's address. Let's see how many of these antivaxxers are willing to pay full freight for private indoctrination or stay home and teach their kids.

[Luciferous]

23. I have a kiddo the same age and he can't wait to

get it. He was mad that the rest of the family got it before him. But this is the kid who shocked the nurse at his physical because he said "sure" when she asked him if he wanted a flu shot lol

[lindysalsagal]

15. I know 2 women who's docs said they can't get it yet: heart valve, immune, lung problems

The docs say they want to see more research about the effects on people with specific health issues before they take the shot.

I also know 2 more who are just plain blockheads....

[maxsolomon]

34. It the ones who CAN'T get it that need everyone who can to freaking do it.

Blockheads are so frustrating.

[lindysalsagal]

36. Yup. Vaccine 101.

[EarlG]

16. Weird isn't it

At the start of the pandemic, they were all "herd immunity will take care of this!" Now, that herd immunity is in reach, they're not interested.

I think there is some good news though when it comes to herd immunity, which is that it might not require 70-80% of the population to get vaccinated to achieve. The CDC recently estimated that maybe a third of all Americans were infected with Covid in the past year. Those people (the ones who survived, at least) will have some measure of protection against the virus.

The protection won't be as good as getting vaccinated, and there will obviously be overlap between people who were infected and people who were vaccinated. But if a lot of the people who refuse to get vaccinated were already infected, that does help us get closer to herd immunity.

[Chautauquas]

17. My cousin doesn't need to get the vaccine

He was a fierce supporter of Trump and he refused to wear a mask or get vaccinated.

I un-friended him on FB because he wouldn't stop posting stupid arguments on my feed.

Can't say I was surprised when I found out he died from Covid several months ago.

[BoringUsername]

19. Wow, that's horrible. n/t

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

39. Condolences on your loss.

Yes, there's all that, but he's still a cousin. It's sad he was a victim of right-wing propaganda.

There were probably better times to remember.

[Chautauquas]

41. Thanks

I knew he was politically conservative, but I didn't think he'd get on board the insane Trump train. I was wrong. It is made even more difficult for some family members because his sister died unexpectedly about a month before he passed.

[UTUSN]

21. A thing taking the *LEAST EFFORT* on anybody's part, least lifting of a finger to get done.

So much for their scripture of gawd helps those who help themselves.

*****ON EDIT: Whups, Wiki informs it's not scripture::

********QUOTE******

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helps_those_who_help_themselves
.... ... The phrase originated in ancient Greece as "the Gods help those who help themselves" and may originally have been proverbial. It is illustrated by two of Aesop's Fables and a similar sentiment is found in ancient Greek drama. Although it has been commonly attributed to Benjamin Franklin, the modern English wording appears earlier in Algernon Sidney's work.

The phrase is often mistaken as a scriptural quote, though it is not stated verbatim in the Bible. Some Christians have criticized the expression as being contrary to the Bible's message of God's grace.[1] A variant of the phrase can also be found in the Quran (13:11).[2][3] ....

********UNQUOTE******

[gratuitous]

22. You know, I will be SO pwned whenever one of these people dies from Covid-19

And then I'll go about my day while their survivors plan their funeral.

[Crunchy Frog]

24. That's why I'm not abandoning mask wearing and other precautions anytime soon. nt

[maxsolomon]

35. quite the article on outdoor masking in the NYT this morning:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html

[Crunchy Frog]

44. I wear mine outdoors when in close proximity

to people whose vaccination status is unknown. Certainly when I'm in an indoor setting.

My comfort levels, my choice.

[maxsolomon]

47. It was news to me. I'd been doing the same as you.

Apparently, the vast majority of the risk is indoors. Until all the blockheads get their jabs.

[greenjar_01]

46. If you have the vaccine, you'll be fine

Basta.

[GulfCoast66]

48. Careful man. I've said the same thing and got beat up here.

Facts be damned. Over 100 million vaccinated. Less than 10,000 of them got Covid. Less than 150 dead. Those are the facts. You are vaccinated you are as safe as driving to the grocery store.

But some of our Brothers and Sisters on DU are not impressed and still think Covid is a huge risk to vaccinated people.

I don’t have a problem with anyone who wants to keep distancing and wearing masks. Probably will reduce your chance of getting the flu.

But politically once everyone who wants the jab gets it we will have to reopen the economy. Joe even said by July 4 we will reopen.

[Wingus Dingus]

26. I have a brother who won't get it, I've found out.

He's making my mom sad with worry for him and his family. Why do that to people?

[LiberatedUSA]

31. The shot or the shovel.

If they don’t want the shot, they can have a shovel to go bury themselves.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

40. Most won't die. Most won't be intubated. Most won't have permanent lung damage.

"Most".

[tavernier]

33. And if we give their allotment to people in India

they will scream bloody murder when a relative or friend dies.

[muriel_volestrangler]

42. YouGov's international comparison of willingness to have the vaccine

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/international/articles-reports/2021/01/12/covid-19-willingness-be-vaccinated

Their latest US figure was 65% on Apr 19. France is below that (60% on Apr 27). Most western countries are above - Germany 71% (May 5), Italy 76% (May 3), UK 90% (May 6).

[JCMach1]

43. Give a final stimulus check, but you have to provide proof of vaccination

That should do it

[greenjar_01]

45. More for the kids

[LiberalFighter]

50. It is a shame they don't lose their tax refund.

[Texasgal]

51. Good luck to them

If they want to travel or attend big events. Vaccination proof is coming.

[ansible]

52. A financial incentive is the best option IMO

Otherwise the only other choice is forced vaccinations, which won't end well.