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Hey Joe Manchin! You DO realize that if you don't support and vote for (Original Post) no_hypocrisy May 2021 OP
Maybe re-election is not his goal? Irish_Dem May 2021 #1
What could that be? His political career as a Democrat, I have to speculate, is over if he doesn't Escurumbele May 2021 #13
People are typically motivated by a number of things. Irish_Dem May 2021 #14
He's basically dead in the water in 2024 no matter what. bearsfootball516 May 2021 #2
Actually outrunning Biden in that state is no issue ColinC May 2021 #4
Manchin may learn that Harry Truman was right: StarfishSaver May 2021 #8
Manchin won re-election by 3%/19,000 votes in 2018. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #10
I stand corrected ColinC May 2021 #15
He's pretty popular in WV aeromanKC May 2021 #3
I hate "of course he will" assertions like this..... brooklynite May 2021 #6
He won't switch- he would lose to a Trump approved candidate who didn't vote to impeach twice. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #11
without limbaugh the Rs are doomed, whether dems speed it up or not certainot May 2021 #17
I sure hope you are right. Hoping there is a Hell and Rush is burning now. Pepsidog May 2021 #19
Wrong. brooklynite May 2021 #5
It depends on the priorities of the voters in his state Raine May 2021 #7
OP, he doesn't CARE what you or any other Dem thinks. LenaBaby61 May 2021 #9
Why not? Polybius May 2021 #12
Trump beat Biden 69% to 30% in WV Locutusofborg May 2021 #16
I don't believe this to be accurate. RegularJam May 2021 #18
Do not argue with a man that has nothing to lose. RickHworth May 2021 #20

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
13. What could that be? His political career as a Democrat, I have to speculate, is over if he doesn't
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:39 PM
May 2021

support Democratic bills.

I cannot understand why he doesn't understand that people in WV could have voted for a republican, but they didn't because they wanted Democratic ideas to be voted on.

If they wanted someone to obstruct, they could have voted for a republican, so if he doesn't deliver the people will rationalize that he was not worth the vote.

I would love to know what he is after.

Irish_Dem

(47,036 posts)
14. People are typically motivated by a number of things.
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:48 PM
May 2021

On the baser side of human nature: Money, fame, power, sex.
Self-focused, no empathy or concern for others.

On the altruistic side: Service, doing the right thing, making the world a better place.
Making life easier and better for the citizens of this country or state. Acting in a prudent,
responsible way, dedicated to others, not self.

I guess you can put things together and decide what may be driving Manchin.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
2. He's basically dead in the water in 2024 no matter what.
Tue May 11, 2021, 07:45 PM
May 2021

Trump won the state by 40 points in 2020. Assuming that stays similar, it means Manchin would have to outrun Biden in 2024 by 21 points in order to win by the tiniest of margins.

That ain’t happening.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. Manchin may learn that Harry Truman was right:
Tue May 11, 2021, 08:27 PM
May 2021

"Give the people a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who talks like a Republican and they'll choose the Republican every time."

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
6. I hate "of course he will" assertions like this.....
Tue May 11, 2021, 07:57 PM
May 2021

Manshin is a Democrat. Just not the same kind of Democrat that you are. He can get elected as a Democrat. He has no reason to change Parties.

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
5. Wrong.
Tue May 11, 2021, 07:56 PM
May 2021

Manchin, a former WV Governor, is well-known and popular enough to get re-elected if he wants to run again. WV isn't proposing severe restrictions to its existing election rules.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
7. It depends on the priorities of the voters in his state
Tue May 11, 2021, 08:21 PM
May 2021

and what they feel is most important to their lives and it's probably different than what you think is important.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
9. OP, he doesn't CARE what you or any other Dem thinks.
Tue May 11, 2021, 08:32 PM
May 2021

Remember Dick Shelby?

He was very popular in Alabama, and a friend who lived there at the time told me he was switching from Dem to the then GOP party. That was in 1987. I asked my friend why he'd do that, since he could have continued to run/be a Dem since he was pretty conservative and popular there. The friend told me that Shelby was 'allegedly' after some big bucks and probably will be getting his palms greased by making tons of monies as a rightie, so it was to his advantage switch to the then GOP.

Shelby 'softly' condemned the Jan. 6th insurrection/assault on our nation's capitol, but will retire a strong ally of this current fascistic GQP party and of his cult-leader, tRumpIQ45. I guess he's gotten all of the $$ he 'allegedly' could, and he's long in the tooth, so he thinks it's probably time for his old carcass to retire.

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
18. I don't believe this to be accurate.
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:19 PM
May 2021

He might even get ahead a little bit if he votes against them.

Not sure why Manchin isn’t understood. Not sure why his relationship in his state isn’t understood.

RickHworth

(123 posts)
20. Do not argue with a man that has nothing to lose.
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:32 PM
May 2021

Manchin is done and he knows it. He has over played his hand, trying to be the contrarian, garnering that very thin following of his constituents, hoping to leverage some power, only to see the reality of that sacrifice of trying to straddle that line, to lose everything and more in such a foolish endeavor.
This next election cycle, the residents of the great state of West Virginia, will elect the republican that stands their ground, as opposed to the one that does not.

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