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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHey Joe Manchin! You DO realize that if you don't support and vote for
the new voting rights legislation and filibuster reform, you're not getting re-elected in 2024, right?
Right?
Right?
Irish_Dem
(47,036 posts)Something else is driving him?
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)support Democratic bills.
I cannot understand why he doesn't understand that people in WV could have voted for a republican, but they didn't because they wanted Democratic ideas to be voted on.
If they wanted someone to obstruct, they could have voted for a republican, so if he doesn't deliver the people will rationalize that he was not worth the vote.
I would love to know what he is after.
Irish_Dem
(47,036 posts)On the baser side of human nature: Money, fame, power, sex.
Self-focused, no empathy or concern for others.
On the altruistic side: Service, doing the right thing, making the world a better place.
Making life easier and better for the citizens of this country or state. Acting in a prudent,
responsible way, dedicated to others, not self.
I guess you can put things together and decide what may be driving Manchin.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Trump won the state by 40 points in 2020. Assuming that stays similar, it means Manchin would have to outrun Biden in 2024 by 21 points in order to win by the tiniest of margins.
That aint happening.
ColinC
(8,291 posts)I believe he won by double digits in 2018, no?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)"Give the people a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who talks like a Republican and they'll choose the Republican every time."
Fiendish Thingy
(15,606 posts)ColinC
(8,291 posts)aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Would not be surprised if he changed to an R in 24.
brooklynite
(94,535 posts)Manshin is a Democrat. Just not the same kind of Democrat that you are. He can get elected as a Democrat. He has no reason to change Parties.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,606 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)brooklynite
(94,535 posts)Manchin, a former WV Governor, is well-known and popular enough to get re-elected if he wants to run again. WV isn't proposing severe restrictions to its existing election rules.
Raine
(30,540 posts)and what they feel is most important to their lives and it's probably different than what you think is important.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Remember Dick Shelby?
He was very popular in Alabama, and a friend who lived there at the time told me he was switching from Dem to the then GOP party. That was in 1987. I asked my friend why he'd do that, since he could have continued to run/be a Dem since he was pretty conservative and popular there. The friend told me that Shelby was 'allegedly' after some big bucks and probably will be getting his palms greased by making tons of monies as a rightie, so it was to his advantage switch to the then GOP.
Shelby 'softly' condemned the Jan. 6th insurrection/assault on our nation's capitol, but will retire a strong ally of this current fascistic GQP party and of his cult-leader, tRumpIQ45. I guess he's gotten all of the $$ he 'allegedly' could, and he's long in the tooth, so he thinks it's probably time for his old carcass to retire.
Polybius
(15,398 posts)It didn't stop him from getting re-elected before.
Locutusofborg
(525 posts)Manchin is the only Democrat to hold statewide office.
RegularJam
(914 posts)He might even get ahead a little bit if he votes against them.
Not sure why Manchin isnt understood. Not sure why his relationship in his state isnt understood.
RickHworth
(123 posts)Manchin is done and he knows it. He has over played his hand, trying to be the contrarian, garnering that very thin following of his constituents, hoping to leverage some power, only to see the reality of that sacrifice of trying to straddle that line, to lose everything and more in such a foolish endeavor.
This next election cycle, the residents of the great state of West Virginia, will elect the republican that stands their ground, as opposed to the one that does not.