Let's not mince words. Those republicans who voted to outst Liz Cheney from her leadership position

[JohnSJ]

for not supporting the lie that “trump won the election”, are as much insurrections as those who invaded the capital and shit on the Constitution.

Is hyperbole to believe this is a prelude to a ciivil war?

There was a letter released by supposed top retired military brass that supported that lie. Perhaps we were much closer to martial law then some like to admit:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142741796

[Phoenix61]

1. The letter was signed by 124 retired generals and admirals

which is an incredibly small number. Even smaller than the 200 who signed a letter in support of Biden before the election. We are no where near a civil war.

[JohnSJ]

4. I believe your assessment is correct Phoenix, however, when you have an entire political party

refusing accept the fact that trump lost, and that President Biden is not a legitimate president, along with the parallel actions of Republican state legislatures to pass legislation to suppress the voting process with actions that will impact minority populations adversely the most

[PortTack]

9. This!

We are seeing the dragon named racism, shoved back down the cave where it belongs. The last throws of a dying breed lashing out

[Maraya1969]

20. If they end up on a TV show I would love for someone to ask them

If they end up on a TV show I would love for someone to ask them Why they didn’t take part in the insurrection? I would just love to see how they answer that.

[Progressive Jones]

2. Did you see that former Adm. John Poindexter is a signatory? Reagan admin./convicted criminal. nt

[Autumn]

16. One of the early driving forces who activly pushed the Republican party in this direction

[merrifield]

3. Why a civil war?

There is no need for a civil war. If the Republicans enact all the suppression legislation and continue gerrymandering they will remain in minority power. The solution isn't a civil war---the solution is secession. Why would we want to have death and destruction to stay with these people? The original Civil War did nothing to tamp down these horrible attitudes and practices. They act like they won! We don't need a country with minority rule. Break up the country if it comes to that.

[lagomorph777]

5. All the cities in one country; all the farms and factories in another?

Seems awkward to manage.

[uponit7771]

7. Not secession, there's no regional issues here like in 1865. Let the anti democracy people move

... to Russia where its mostly white and they'll feel comfortable.

[DownriverDem]

12. We should have

let them leave in the 1860s. I would never visit or live in the south.

[merrifield]

13. 100% agree.

[Skittles]

22. WTF....hell no

we CANNOT give them to the power to DESTROY AMERICA.....that is insane

[uponit7771]

6. "Is hyperbole to believe this is a prelude to a ciivil war?" NO !!! This is what Putin's wants above

... all things is to split up the west like the soviets were split up.

Putin's Whore will make sure this happens.

[JohnSJ]

8. I think the Republican Party sure is working overtime to foster that

[ananda]

10. They are pathetic, petty dipshits.

This is one of the most petty stupid votes
ever.

[JohnSJ]

11. It is more than petty. If you listen to them during the House Oversight hearing on the response to

the January 6 insurrection, Paul Gosar a republican representative from Arizona, and other republicans are actually defending the insurrectionists.

The republican party has become a very dangerous threat to our country

[BobTheSubgenius]

14. I don't think "petty" and "very dangerous" are mutually exclusive.

I am in total agreement that the QOP is a dangerous, and even existential threat to the country, but I also believe there is a streak of pettiness - like a mean 11 year old - that runs through that subset like a river. Look at some of the things that get them riled up!

[ananda]

21. Agree totally. I was just talking about the Cheney vote.

That was seriously stupid and petty.

I think it hurts them more than helps them.

[Autumn]

15. It's their party, it's what they created. They can oust whomever they chose.

There is an old polish proverb that applies here.



I will sit back and enjoy watching that racist, nasty party eat itself and not lose a minutes of sleep over it.

[JohnSJ]

17. I wish they would "eat themselves up", but it is doubtful that will happen. The problem is

they pose a very real risk to our democracy, especially in light of the republican legislatures passing voting suppression laws in a lot of states.

If you happened to catch the House hearing on why there was such a delay in getting the National Guard deployed to the Capital during the January 6 insurrection, it was eye opening.

While the Democrats focused on the purpose of the hearing, every republican I heard was pretty united in defending the mob that attacked the capital, blaming the media and the Democrats for the violence that occurred, and perpetuating the election lie. Not one republican I heard addressed a question regarding the delay of the National Guard.

Anyone believing that the republicans are divided I think are underestimating the situation. For that reason alone, anyone who pushes back against the LIE that "Biden did not win the election", should not be marginalized for THAT.

The republicans are going full force to "rewrite" what happened, and it is important not to let that happen

and even as a political strategy, that makes a lot of sense as represented here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142742001

[Autumn]

18. They are fractured and they will splinter. I don't see a downside to that. As long as they

stay the hell out of the Democratic party I'm good with it. I don't marginalize her pushing back on her parties lies, that means nothing to me. She, her father and their party lie about everything. Too little too late and I don't care that the man she supported and voted with most of the time, and her fellow Senators are shitting all over her. I despise her and her ilk for THEIR lies and bullshit over the last 30 years. Fuck em all .

[JohnSJ]

19. I disagree Autumn. They are not fractured at all. The republican party has never been more

united, and that is why they are so dangerous

This isn't really about Cheney. She is history.

[Silent3]

23. I thought Trump being the party's nominee in 2016 would fracture the Republican party

How wrong I was.

As much as I despised Republican policy positions in the past, and faulted any politician greatly for supporting such positions, I was insufficiently cynical about how much so many Republicans cared about maintaining power above all else, about how little those policy positions mattered compared to assuming any positions at all to keep power.