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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Wed May 12, 2021, 09:58 AM May 2021

The Last Thing I Want Liz Cheney to Do Is Switch Parties

She is not a Democrat. What I want is for her challenge to Trump Republicans to be taken up by other Republicans and split that party into two camps. That will benefit us far more than a meaningless change of parties by her.

I don't like her. I don't like Republicans in general. But, as long as the GQP maintains its ass-kissing relationship with the Trumper side of the party, we have a very serious problem that can bite us on the ass at every turn.

Liz Cheney should draw people to her thinking, not inject that thinking into the Democratic Party.

She is not our friend, but she can help split the GQP into two factions, and that will benefit us in the long run.

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Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
2. Agreed...goes for Mitt Romney, too...
Wed May 12, 2021, 10:02 AM
May 2021

There are damn few repubs who are threatening to leave the party that I would want to "join" the Dem party.

For one thing, there are really no moderate repubs left. They've been purged.

Ms Cheney is free to start her own party if she wishes, we could use a true conservative party in the country, but she's no Dem for sure.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. Agreed
Wed May 12, 2021, 10:24 AM
May 2021

There's no room for someone with her views in the Democratic Party. But calling out GQP malfeasance without cutting and running first?
More of this please.

Lettuce Be

(2,336 posts)
5. Do not concern yourself. She isn't going to switch to Dem
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:24 AM
May 2021

The idea is to form a new party, a party that doesn't follow "The National Enquirer" or "The Orange Haired One Who Shall Not Be Named." A completely new party. Won't be the first time. Once the parties were flipped, dems were the bad guys, repugs the ones that wanted social justice.

Another third party would be ideal. The Independent Party has never been able to get far, mostly because of the overwhelming majorities of the other two parties but if they start to split, then there is hope for democracy. At present, our democracy is doomed. Without free and fair elections, there is no democracy.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
9. Even better would be to stay within the GOP and destabilize it, as a contrast to what Trumpists
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:42 AM
May 2021

have made the Republican Party into. Long term that will drive moderate Republicans Independent, Not Vote or finally maybe to the Democratic Party. The first two are more likely though.

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
6. The concept of voting is fatally flawed with more than two choices.
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:33 AM
May 2021

 
?

That's generally a big problem but something that can work to our advantage in this case.

Question: "Which of these is your favorite color; crimson, scarlet, or blue?

Result: crimson - 30%, scarlet - 30%, blue - 40%.

Blue wins!

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
12. But then Blue has to form a coalition with Crimson or Scarlet
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:53 AM
May 2021

to get a majority. So more positions end up being represented. (I see this as a good thing, not a bad thing, as it’s how other functioning democracies work.)

PortTack

(32,715 posts)
7. Agree..the Cheney's have power friends and lots of money and donors
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:34 AM
May 2021

She’s going to try and split the party off from the deposed idiot king and that works for us.

The qgop is in big trouble and they know it! They can’t win with him and they can’t win without him..

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
10. It's the Last Thing Liz Cheney would do.
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:45 AM
May 2021

I have to say, it's pretty damn weird for hard, extreme right winger of the Conservative party can say and act so reasonably, so responsible, so clear headed and intellectually honest. I can't remember the last time I witnessed a hard line Conservative be intellectually honest.

But have no fear, Liz Cheney would no sooner join the Democratic Party than jump into a pit of rattlesnakes or boa constrictors.

Never going to happen, and I would not recommend she join us. I wouldn't obviously have a problem for her to lend support and vote on our legislation, but she doesn't have to join our party to support good policies with her vote.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
11. Same here, she's a neo-con extremist
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:52 AM
May 2021

She and her dad never met a war that they didn't support, as long as they didn't have to fight in it.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
14. Agreed. But, I see little danger in that ever happening.
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:13 PM
May 2021

For one thing, I don't see how she could ever be elected to any office again, by running as a Democrat in a state like Wyoming.

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