Get ready for Repuke presidential candidate CHEENEE. Will be *tough* competition.

[UTUSN]

She is positioned to put the pieces of her wingnut party back together After-Trump, ideologically pure and fierce with *concentrated*, horrendous wingnut policies. She will be tough for us to beat unless we get our large non-voting constituencies out to vote and the natural shrinking of the Old Whites of the Repukes takes effect. Despite the animosity she's getting from the Trump zombies now, they *will* unite when they see a chance to take power under her. She will be tough to beat.

[EarlG]

1. But how can she possibly win the GOP presidential primary?

If she's running against Trump humpers like DeSantis, et al? I don't think she has a chance.

She can sure do a lot of damage by turning voters off the GOP's new "elections are pointless" stance though.

[lagomorph777]

2. True - I'm kind of liking the "elections are pointless" slogan (for GQP voters).

Hate to see that diluted.

[leftstreet]

7. How did Trump win the primary?

He seemed like a joke

The Trump humpers will get on board with Cheney once they see if the money is following her

[Beastly Boy]

8. She is a long-term opportunist running against short-term opportunists.

The Trump sycophants don't think past the 2022 elections. In 2024, GOP dynamics will be very different. Trump is unlikely to make it to the primaries, but even if he does, anyone running for President will either have to drop out or run against him. It should be clear to everyone that running against Trump in this scenario is the only way to make it past the primaries. If Trump drops out before the primaries, on the other hand, there will be a whole bunch of trumpies trampling over each other to claim the title of his successor, and only Cheney not being engaged in this circus. Once again, she stands a much better chance when she stands out from the crowd.

Cheney (or her daddy) are thinking out their chess game a few moves ahead of the rest of the checkers players in the race.

[Beetwasher.]

12. I Know, I Don't Get All These Crazy Posts Thinking There's Some Secret Long Term Strategy Here

Sometimes a party imploding is really just a party imploding. Yeah, she might be trying to position herself, but this whole thing is an unmitigated disaster for the GOP. I can't even understand the mental gymnastics you need to go through to see it differently and that we all better "look out! she's got a devious plan!". No. She doesn't. The GOP is splintering before our eyes. REJOICE!

[PortTack]

13. Yup yup yup!!

[UTUSN]

17. Why is it necessary for you to call opinions as valid as yours "crazy"?

[Beetwasher.]

20. Who Said It Was Necessary?

It certainly isn't "necessary", but it's my opinion that they are crazy and that these opinions are not as valid as mine based on available evidence. Is it necessary to call them "crazy". No. Is it "necessary" for you take offense at that? Nope. But you choose to do so anyway. So, feel free to carry on and to be offended.

[PortTack]

3. Only 25% of the voting populous identify as qgop and that number shrinks daily!

[MerryHolidays]

4. I don't think she has a prayer

Against Joe and Kamala, or for that matter, anyone in the Republican party.

I frankly don't see "after Trump" at the moment....I might see a post-Trump R party if he is indicted and possibly convicted. But that would destroy the Republican/MAGA party with the majority of the electorate, even more so than they are today.

I just don't see a scenario where Cheney wins over anyone.

[ananda]

5. This is an interesting premise.

However, it is predicated on the idea that she will run
as a Republican.

What will the other half of the party be?

[UTUSN]

10. Once Drumpf is totally RID of, whether by criminal charges or just totally discredited (for them)

the wingnuts will unite under whomever just for the change to TAKE POWER.

[EndlessWire]

35. Trump will never be

discredited. The only way we will get rid of him is if 1) he dies, or 2) he is sent to jail. He is in control of the Repubs no matter what he does.

He will crush anyone from his party who dares to run against him. Right now he's doing a purge. He is more like Hitler than we have ever seen. A wannabe dictator who will destroy our democracy.

Right now he is destroying the two party system. That is a factor that comes up in fascist systems. Either destroy it outright or disguise it so no one realizes that the party is a gang led by one guy.

I wouldn't remain a Repub for nothing, now. If any of them have a conscious, they would renounce and leave. He'll get them sooner or later, anyway. It's like trying to decide whether to leave Europe at the start of WWII.

[UTUSN]

38. Only codgers know/care who RAYGUN was,Drumpf is not bigger than that nobody

[EndlessWire]

40. Codger? LOL!

Donald Trump is a mobster. He doesn't follow the same pathway as Reagan. He is a mobster no matter if he is in the WH or not.

Look at what he has done. He is still in command of the party, still commanding loyalty from those cronies in office, and he's able to wheel and deal. He's a new kind of mobster with ties to our enemies, and the kind who got a gold statue erected to him. He's that sickening.

This is new territory. I know that Joe and Kamala want us all to pretend to be friends with them, but I am failing. I still want to shun them. I want them all vaccinated, and then I want them to go far away.

[UTUSN]

41. We all know Drumpf. We were talking about his being faded out, which will happen.

[uponit7771]

6. Unnnn, she still stands for anti-democracy measures. Fuck her

[bigtree]

9. she'll never be nominated

...there's already a full bench of disaffected republicans wanting to be president.

[UTUSN]

11. Wow, Teh McCAIN just said that she doubts Liz is sincere, is only power-playing for herself!1

[bullwinkle428]

14. I want to live long enough to be a "lookie-loo" at her campaign "rallies"

in Iowa in 2024, just to laugh at the tiny crowds.

[BannonsLiver]

15. Nah

[brooklynite]

16. A House member that few people have heard of?

Not at the top of my list of candidates to worry about.

[UTUSN]

18. Your list is your list; mine is mine.

[brooklynite]

19. My list is based on years of political experience and data crunching...

Explain the basis for how Cheney is going to win the Presidential nomination against better-known Republicans, and then win the moderates needed for the General Election.

[UTUSN]

22. If I knew the future I'd be fabulously exalted. I "explained" what I said by saying it & I own it.

At the risk of prolonging this (because I don't want to), she's not "known"? And in your years of experience you've never heard of actual unknowns popping up? I could add more but don't do snark and, to repeat, don't want this.

[brooklynite]

30. I'm guessing you could tell me who the Senators running for President last year were...

Can you tell me, without researching it, who the House members were (there were three)?

The average voter isn't engaged in the machinations between the pro-Trump and never-Trump people in the Republican Party, and other then her family name (not that popular among Republicans today), there's nothing to suggest she'll be a strong choice among self-identified Republican Primary voters.

[UTUSN]

31. Can you tell me where you got the idea I'm answerable to you for anything?

I detest public brawls. They're usually occasioned by somebody not taking a hint.

Repeating, don't want this. Have never initiated contact with you and won't participate/engage.

[brooklynite]

42. You're answerable to me because we're on a discussion Board and you chose to respond to my comment..

...and then you chose to respond again.

[UTUSN]

43. Here's your next Last Word pyrrhic victory!

[Treefrog]

21. Why do you always call her "Cheenee"?

I know people love to make plays on names here, but usually I can get the meaning. Just wondered.

[Vinca]

23. I don't know for sure, but I bet the poster is harkening back to Tweety who made of point

of pronouncing it "Cheenee."

[UTUSN]

24. It's not (my) made-up. Tweety called the Dick that because that's the pronunciation CHEENEE used.

It's like COLBERT's native pronunciation was "kol BERT" before he got his career or fame or whatever.

[Treefrog]

28. Thanks!

I figured there was a backstory!

[lame54]

25. Her troubles are far from over...

Wyoming is going to kick her to the curb

[UTUSN]

26. Well, she doesn't have to be a Congresscritter. Candidates or just POWER BROKERS can be anybody, no?

[lame54]

27. She's voted DOWN by Republican representatives...

Soon to be voted OUT by actual voting republicans

What's her selling point?

[UTUSN]

29. Yea voted down by the most nutcase of all nutcase congresscritters. Why are they more of a force

than she or any others? They have sway in their tiny closed world of the House, nearly nothing outside there. I distinctly remember how our Squad were pooh-poohed as being insignificant newbies/backbenchers even by our own Dem leaders.

As for her selling point(s): She's a privileged spawn, is now built up as a Voice even if by the media, will be at the front when Drumpf's infection of their party is inevitably burned off, and, if not the *one* actual future leader, can help propel somebody else, but most of all - which is a BIG selling point - she is an authentic IDEOLOGICAL wingnut with all the horrid policies and heritage (her daddy) that entails, meaning she can put the pieces back together of her execrable party after the NON-ideological Drumpf has done the damage to it that he has.

Look, I don't know why my little opinion has riled up some posters. I don't claim the special credentials or authority that some do, and I certainly am not any kind of wingnut to be cheering her on, not even if she is sincere in standing against Drumpf in this one instance. I am puzzled that other opinions on this internet discussion board are given special status.

I am not "predicting," just will not be surprised.

[WarGamer]

32. No.

She has NO support.

Getting the Lincoln project and Bill Kristol to support you doesn't a political future make.

[UTUSN]

33. The "no" was sufficient (& redundant in the posts). The "nonsense" was gratuitous.

[WarGamer]

34. yeah, you're right.

[UTUSN]

36. Wow, thanks for the civility, which is a precious commodity around here!

[WarGamer]

37. I get worked up sometimes... not always a shining moment.

[UTUSN]

39. But you have the self-insight & courtesy that some others here don't.