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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:18 AM May 2021

Cheney on Trump: 'He's going to unravel the democracy to come back into power'


By Kristin Wilson and Daniella Diaz, CNN

Updated 9:37 AM ET, Thu May 13, 2021

(CNN) - Rep. Liz Cheney is outlining her next steps in the aftermath of her ousting from leadership, telling NBC, "I intend to be the leader, one of the leaders, in a fight to help to restore our party," and warning that former President Donald Trump is willing "to unravel the democracy to come back into power."

The Wyoming congresswoman, and now former House Republican Conference chair, also didn't rule out a run for president in the "Today" interview that aired Thursday morning, but she did confirm she will run for reelection for her US House seat next year.

Cheney said "silence is not an option" when speaking out against Trump, and she said admonishments from her fellow Republicans to move forward are not possible because the damage that the former president is causing is "an ongoing threat." The daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney reiterated her assertion Wednesday that Trump cannot become president again.

"He's unfit," she said. "He never again can be anywhere close to the Oval Office."

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Cheney on Trump: 'He's going to unravel the democracy to come back into power' (Original Post) DonViejo May 2021 OP
This is true-- he would do that- dawg day May 2021 #1
Not only that TheRealNorth May 2021 #2
Then do the thing that you'll hate the most... JHB May 2021 #3
The way her daddy did malaise May 2021 #4
take trump turkey hunting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 May 2021 #13
Ha malaise May 2021 #14
I'm still hoping that his staff are arranging for KFC and Big Macs at every meal. nt spooky3 May 2021 #17
Before I make coffee every morning I check to see malaise May 2021 #19
I had to do some searching to find out what IHDY meant! :-) spooky3 May 2021 #20
It is important to remember ScratchCat May 2021 #5
He wants to be POTUS again Dan May 2021 #11
Have family Trumpers jonstl08 May 2021 #26
You're discounting his Narcissism and Ego. maxsolomon May 2021 #21
I'm pretty sure her House seat is safe for her. Hugin May 2021 #6
She will likely be primaried by a Trumper leftieNanner May 2021 #8
Well if you've lived your life among the venal, the paranoid, and the ignorant... NNadir May 2021 #7
He's a boil on the ass of America. kentuck May 2021 #9
Actions speak louder than words, Rep. Cheney. CrispyQ May 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Traildogbob May 2021 #12
I absolutely could see Liz Cheaney Roc2020 May 2021 #15
I'm glad she is not allowing herself to be complicit and speaking out. Politicub May 2021 #16
With her reverent regard for democracy, you'd think Cheney would support HR1 gratuitous May 2021 #18
He needs to be opposed for their nomination. maxsolomon May 2021 #22
Said the woman just as responsible for Trump & fascism as any Reep. ananda May 2021 #23
talk all you want, never trumpers. show me the votes. mopinko May 2021 #24
Liz Cheney is effective more effective at demonizing Trump than democrats could ever be because uponit7771 May 2021 #25

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. This is true-- he would do that-
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:27 AM
May 2021

Cheney on Trump: 'He's going to unravel the democracy to come back into power'


Well, we all know he's a democracy-poisoning snake. Even THEY (McCarthy and McConnell and all of them) know that. Even many of his Trumpers know that.

But they don't care. I don't know why they don't care-- why they think this wreck of a rich man is worth such a cost.

And with McCarthy, it's not even personal adoration he feels to Trump. It's just the craven desire for the temporary power that he gets from being within Trump's fumes.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
3. Then do the thing that you'll hate the most...
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:31 AM
May 2021

Get together like-minded people who actually have power: fellow congresspeople, state reps, governors, etc. The people we always here about off the record, griping namelessly.

Admit that Democrats being in control isn't the horror show you like to claim it is to rally your voters. Sure, you find us ideologically offensive, but even the most progressive Democratic initiatives will have us closer to the Eisenhower administration than to Venezuela or Castro's Cuba.

And then join together on a mission to torpedo the Raving Monster Loony Party. Deny it success, so that no politician looking to their future sees an advantage in sticking with it (this includes you).

Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
5. It is important to remember
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:38 AM
May 2021

Donald Trump didn't want to be President. It was a scam to steal money from the gullible to pay off his debts and probably start some new media platform. He had no acceptance speech written on election night 2016. The perfect storm or events lead to him winning and he was miserable the entire time.

The only reason Donald Trump ran for re-election is because of the legal exposure he created. He knows his crimes and knows that now that these things are being looked at(tax fraud, bank loan fraud, insurance fraud), he is caught. But he lost, and indictments will be coming on these State charges at minimum.

There is no reason for him to run, again, for something he never wanted in the first place. This will especially be true once he is indicted by NY State. He lost the popular vote, twice, by huge margins. He was impeached twice. He is disgraced. What possible angle could they run him as a candidate from? They can't just shut down conventions and give him the nomination - he isn't the sitting POTUS. Others will want to run, knowing Trump is clearly a losing proposition. Its May 2021. Three years from now, he will be a bad memory.

Dan

(3,561 posts)
11. He wants to be POTUS again
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:50 PM
May 2021

to subvert Justice, avoid prosecution and inflict hurt on those that are pro-democracy.

Trump, and the GOP, if given a chance will make Hitler and the NAZIs look like pikers.

We would have death camps on every corner, and our good friends who really think that Trump wasn't given a chance will fight for the chance to be parts of the the camps (administrators, guards, food services, etc.).

Don't believe it - talk to one of them, they no longer believe in reality.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
26. Have family Trumpers
Fri May 14, 2021, 10:33 AM
May 2021

I have some family who may think like this. Have a sister and BIL who believe China stole the election for Biden. They do not believe Russia had any part in the 2016 & 2020 elections. Massive voter fraud happened in 2020 in ONLY the Presidential Election. When I point out all the Candidates are on the ballot so if one vote is invalid the whole ballot is so all the votes on that ballot need to be thrown out including ones for the GOP if the people slip their vote. Crickets from them.

Also I am not allowed to see my nieces and nephews since I would be a bad influence on them because I am liberal.

UGH

maxsolomon

(33,343 posts)
21. You're discounting his Narcissism and Ego.
Thu May 13, 2021, 02:09 PM
May 2021

He really does think he knows better than anyone about any topic there is, and feels he should be in charge. He always has, because he is a Solipsist. Only he matters.

I do think he wants to be King of America, not President.

Hugin

(33,140 posts)
6. I'm pretty sure her House seat is safe for her.
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:39 AM
May 2021

After seeing the Gatez fiasco a couple of months ago. Assuming the voters in WY don't like being told who to like. Reverse-reverse-perverse psychology.

I don't know about her presidential aspirations.

leftieNanner

(15,099 posts)
8. She will likely be primaried by a Trumper
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:43 PM
May 2021

Whether Wyoming voters prefer her or not, we will know that next year.

And I have been saying for a while now that she absolutely has Presidential aspirations. But will her party be willing to nominate her?

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
7. Well if you've lived your life among the venal, the paranoid, and the ignorant...
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:40 PM
May 2021

...you might think as much.

Fortunately there is a world where people opposite in every way function quite well.

If one doesn't know that, it's one's own fault.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
10. Actions speak louder than words, Rep. Cheney.
Thu May 13, 2021, 12:49 PM
May 2021

What exactly will you do? Will you & the few others start speaking out about the voter suppression laws being passed all over the country? Will you support HR1, since you are oh so concerned about our democracy, now?

Response to CrispyQ (Reply #10)

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
15. I absolutely could see Liz Cheaney
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:17 PM
May 2021

becoming President. I won't vote for her but she could definitely win.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
16. I'm glad she is not allowing herself to be complicit and speaking out.
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:18 PM
May 2021

She is getting media coverage for her remarks.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. With her reverent regard for democracy, you'd think Cheney would support HR1
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:44 PM
May 2021

But you'd be wrong. Progressives might want to hold off on casting that bronze statue of Cheney for its Profiles in Courage pantheon.

mopinko

(70,102 posts)
24. talk all you want, never trumpers. show me the votes.
Fri May 14, 2021, 08:56 AM
May 2021

or move along.
esp show me your vote on voting rights. or it's all hot air.
and infrastructure.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
25. Liz Cheney is effective more effective at demonizing Trump than democrats could ever be because
Fri May 14, 2021, 10:19 AM
May 2021

... she's an insider.

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