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https://www.thedailybeast.com/really-pelosi-responds-after-gop-rep-andrew-clyde-compares-capitol-riot-to-a-normal-tourist-visit?ref=homeREALLY? Pelosi Responds After GOP Rep Compares Capitol Riot to Tourist Visit
NOT HAVING IT
McCaffrey Blauner, Breaking News Intern
Updated May. 13, 2021 12:15PM ET /
Published May. 13, 2021 12:13PM ET
Evelyn Hockstein/REUTERS
Edit to add, Politicus:
https://www.politicususa.com/2021/05/13/pelosi-house-republicans-sick.html
Speaker Pelosi called House Republicans sick for claiming that the attack on the Capitol was a normal day.
Link to tweet
Speaker Pelosi said:
Multiple people were killed, over 140 police officers shoot, and the attackers should hang the vice president. Normal? Yet, in a hearing yesterday, some house Republicans defended those actions, saying the rioters were orderly and acting similar to a normal tourist visit. They basically saw them and said, well, they were just walking through between the velvet ropes that are there to direct the tourist path. You have to see it because it was beyond denial.
It fell into the range of sick.
And thats what we have to deal with when we are saying it is urgent for us to secure the Capitol. Why? It was just a normal tourist day. We have to strengthen our police force. Why? It was just a normal tourist day. And, we have to establish a commission for January 6th. Why? It was just a normal tourist day. So, the same denial that they have acted upon in terms of congresswoman Liz Cheney, the denial they have there. The denial about what happened that day. The denial for the need for more security to make sure it doesnt happen again and the denial of refining the truth is what we have to deal with. And we will find the truth, and we are hoping we can do so in the most bipartisan way possible. I think that thats essential.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They really seem to think their viewers include a lot of confused people who don't know what to think because they're hitting the lies again and again and again. So maybe they do.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)I am sure that Clyde, like many of his constituents gets his "news" from Fox, OANN, and Newsmax, along with other various and sordid right wing propaganda outlets. I am sure that the "videos" they saw are different from the actual footage of the Insurrection that much of the public saw.
I am wondering why some Democratic member of the committee didn't use their time to pull up videos and confront the idiot Clyde with the footage and straight up question him. "Is this NORMAL to you?" Show the footage of the Insurrectionists beating cops, "Is this a tourist day to you?" Show the insurrectionist woman getting shot with the Capital guys barricaded with guns drawn, "That is what you consider 'behaving peacefully'?"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I just don't believe they'd be boring and irritating aware viewers with all this emphatic, practically desk slapping repetition if they didn't believe there were others they had to reach. Polls say many don't know what to think, and my guess is RW lies are influencing some of those who do watch CNN and MSNBC, at least sometimes.
As for the other,...?
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)Something needs to be done about right wing media. They simply lie and there is no negative consequence for them.
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)who ended the "fairness doctrine" four decades ago............
I think it would be great if PBS did a two hour a night documentary, for a dozen nights, on the ten years in Germany leading up to Hitler's Tyranny.........I know they would have 80 million viewers.........
mopinko
(70,086 posts)their bothersiderism draws in those who wish for a veneer of being well informed.
w fox viewership dropping, they may be seeing an influx. who knows.
not that cnn is the best place to deprogram these ppl, but it might help.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)it's been a huge weapon used for decades to destroy people's confidence in what they know, in our ability to do what we say we will, that there's anything good to vote for. Every predatory act by the right and every adverse event are accompanied by a barrage of propaganda claiming the Democrats did it.
A main goal isn't to turn people who prefer CNN if they watch anything into conservative voters but to discourage them from voting at all. 100 million in 2016, 80 million in 2020.
Just look at all the people who've believed that Democrats serve business just as the Republicans did, "Democrats don't care about people like me," "corrupt corporatists": different poisons for each vulnerability.
Confusion. Ultimately disaffection, disengagement, and protective indifference.
mopinko
(70,086 posts)one of my old college profs is spending his retirement watching cnn. he's almost withdrawn from the world. so not him.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)turn on MSNBC and yell at the TV. I don't think I ever saw him turn on FUX.
He was actually a very nice guy, but I did sometimes have to steer the conversation away from politics.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)How on earth would you learn to yell at CNN and MSNBC unless you were getting your "news" from Fox or some other right wing source. I have a brother in law who has the same reaction to the "liberal media". He claims that he consumes media from "all over" but he only ever posts information from right wing outlets...go figure.
There has been a divide in the US along political and ideological lines for quite awhile but prior to the 90's everyone got their news from the same sources, THEN had their spin. Now, people just go where their biases lie, or go hate watch other outlets to prove how horrible they are.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)If violence, death threats, and property damage are "normal" touristy things to Clyde, that is.
Course, he could be a liar.
Let's go with liar.
But check on his home life anyway.
You never know. He could be both a liar and someone who abuses his family and calls that "normal".
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)Following the civil asset forfeiture, Clyde advocated reform in testimony before the United States House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Oversight.[8] In 2019, Congress passed and President Donald Trump signed the Taxpayer First Act (H.R. 3151), which includes the Clyde-Hirsch-Sowers RESPECT Act. The law limits what funds the IRS can seize.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Clyde
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Thanks!
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)I think he probably suffers from full-of-shititis
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)Kick em out of Congress.
Thatd be the normal thing to do.
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)We are in such deep trouble
😣😥
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)It was a historic and singular teaching opportunity that would make clear what the riot and insurrection were all about, who ordered the police stand-down, who prevented the National Guard from arriving, who lied about it, and who is to blame.
For some reason, we passed and moved on.
Now the GOP plays dummy-up and the country slides further apart.
Thanks, Putin.
aggiesal
(8,911 posts)I believe this is where we will find out all the details and maybe even indict people who lie to the commission.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Raven123
(4,828 posts)How much taxpayer money is wasted on the daily cleanup?
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)Where was Clyde?
Was he out greeting the tourists or hiding?
littlemissmartypants
(22,632 posts)MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)Run of the mill day I guess.
Traildogbob
(8,716 posts)The state that gave us Clyde AND Major Trailer Queen. AND Kemp. Pesticides on Peaches??????
Imagine if the south had won the civil war. The whole country could be that stupid. Do they have schools in Georgia?
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)...it was exactly the same atmosphere as when busloads of seniors come on a sightseeing trip from Peoria. No difference that I could see.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)Then smash up a window or bathroom mirror.
It's the polite and respectful thing to do.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,130 posts)moondust
(19,972 posts)I doubt that even Goebbels was this stupid with his big lies. Are these GQPs delusional enough to actually believe their ridiculous bullshit?
mopinko
(70,086 posts)normal day my shiny metal ass.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Well mostly....this cretin is either lying or terminally stupid or both.
Unbelievable, this joke and MTG harassing AOC. And Damn them for making us praise Liz Cheney for something.
For really the first time in my life I fear we are in danger of losing our democracy. This is an all hands on deck moment we are in a fight for survival. Talking to you Joe Mansion and Kirsten S.
The good news is they are alienating non crazy Republicans and their voting restrictions may harm them as much or more since a lot of their base is rural.