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Mon May 17, 2021, 07:43 AM

Capitol rioter banned from having firearms was just busted on gun charges after killing a mountain..

..lion

Patrick Montgomery was allowed to return home to Colorado after he allegedly stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 and kicked a police officer, but federal prosecutors have filed a motion to revoke his release after he posed for a photo with the 170-pound mountain lion he killed, reported the Washington Post.

"Given that Montgomery has repeatedly and flagrantly violated both state and federal law while on pretrial release in this case ó including by possessing and using a firearm ó the Government respectfully requests that the Court revoke his release pending trial," prosecutors said in the motion.

[link:https://www.rawstory.com/patrick-montgomery/|]

Why anyone would think that an insurrectionist would respect the terms of bail is beyond me. If any of them actually understood that actions have consequences they would not be traitors...

Why any of them are out on bail is beyond me.

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Reply Capitol rioter banned from having firearms was just busted on gun charges after killing a mountain.. (Original post)
Soph0571 May 17 OP
hlthe2b May 17 #1
-misanthroptimist May 17 #2
niyad May 17 #11
PatSeg May 17 #12
Quanto Magnus May 17 #46
PatSeg May 17 #50
Dial H For Hero May 17 #52
Ferrets are Cool May 17 #28
drmeow May 17 #61
kcr May 17 #3
Fullduplexxx May 17 #4
OldBaldy1701E May 17 #5
whathehell May 17 #21
OldBaldy1701E May 17 #54
whathehell May 17 #55
soldierant May 17 #58
OldBaldy1701E May 18 #65
Thrill May 17 #6
FakeNoose May 17 #7
LiberatedUSA May 17 #10
Deacon Blue May 17 #45
Deacon Blue May 17 #47
crickets May 17 #48
SheltieLover May 17 #8
whathehell May 17 #24
SheltieLover May 17 #25
NurseJackie May 17 #9
getagrip_already May 17 #17
FoxNewsSucks May 17 #36
onetexan May 17 #35
Paladin May 17 #13
LiberatedUSA May 17 #15
SheltieLover May 17 #27
FoxNewsSucks May 17 #38
Ingersollman May 17 #14
sop May 17 #37
jmowreader May 18 #63
Botany May 17 #16
gab13by13 May 17 #19
Botany May 17 #26
LiberatedUSA May 17 #23
sop May 17 #30
gab13by13 May 17 #18
ecstatic May 17 #20
The Unmitigated Gall May 17 #22
AllaN01Bear May 17 #29
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CaptainTruth May 17 #34
JudyM May 17 #42
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usaf-vet May 17 #41
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Wild blueberry May 17 #44
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marble falls May 17 #51
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The Mouth May 17 #56
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SunSeeker May 17 #59
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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:45 AM

1. I'd like to throw the key away for the mountain lion killing ALONE.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:52 AM

2. My first reaction was the same

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:30 AM

11. Absolutely agree.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:45 AM

12. My first reaction as well

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Apparently, this guy is both evil and stupid. He was convicted for a series of armed robberies in 1996, so he knows the repercussions of breaking the law. Yet he flaunts his behavior as if daring the authorities to lock him up. Meanwhile, I wonder how many other wild animals this man has killed over the years. There is something truly perverse about people who shoot animals and then pose with the dead carcasses, as if they did something brave and gallant.

I hope he gets prosecuted for killing the mountain lion as well as violating the terms of his bail release.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #12)

Mon May 17, 2021, 01:56 PM

46. He clearly

thinks that the laws don't apply to him.

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Response to Quanto Magnus (Reply #46)

Mon May 17, 2021, 02:15 PM

50. Which is bizarre

because he has been caught and convicted in the past. Apparently some people really don't learn.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #12)

Mon May 17, 2021, 03:26 PM

52. He is now under house arrest, and has been charged with Illegal possession of wildlife.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:10 AM

28. This

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:29 PM

61. Yup! nt

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:53 AM

3. Absolutely. They shouldn't be out on bail

They shouldn't be taking road trips with their family. They shouldn't be out hunting. They shouldn't be anywhere but behind bars, where they belong, awaiting trial.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:57 AM

4. Which is why they shouldnt be let out of jail until their sentencing

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:00 AM

5. Oh? I can answer that question in one word.

White. (There are others that factor in, but that is the main one.)

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #5)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:58 AM

21. Two White protesters killed by RW "Out on bail" Kyle Rittenhouse

might beg to differ..

Things are rarely so simple as to be explained "in one word".

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Response to whathehell (Reply #21)

Mon May 17, 2021, 05:21 PM

54. Why does that change what I said?

You even mention that white boy Kyle is out on bail. The question was why were any of them out on bail, yes? Regardless of anything they did, they were not and are not being treated as if they are the level of criminals that they are. Because, if they had been initially treated that way, there would be a lot less of them around to prosecute. Amazing that five cops can kill one black guy and it takes a society in chaos to get anything approaching justice done, but these people (how many indicted now... 406?) literally tried to overthrow the elected government and murdered people while attempting it. And, they get to go on vacation. What is the difference between George Floyd and Q-Anon Shaman? I can see it pretty easily... do you?

Also, I explain the lunacy in our society in one word: Republican. Are you saying that doesn't explain it?

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #54)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:28 PM

55. White and "Right"


is more than "one word"."..Just sayin'.




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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #5)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:22 PM

58. I would need two words.

"White male."

Yes, women participated, and yes, women also way too often get released when they shouldn't. And also, there are many white males who are decent human beings. But, on sheer arrogance, the bell curve for white males shifts noticeably to the right.

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Response to soldierant (Reply #58)

Tue May 18, 2021, 07:51 AM

65. As a pasty white male

One would think I should be outraged about that statement. But, then there is reality, which, unlike a lot of white males, I do not try to ignore or hide from. You are correct in what you say.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:15 AM

6. That's what's wrong with people. Have to post everything

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:20 AM

7. Confiscate this guy's guns - all of them

... then lock him up!

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #7)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:25 AM

10. Here is the problem with that...

...a lot of these gun people have looked at these scenarios since red flag laws became a thing, and are smart enough to not store all their guns in one place. Since we donít have federal registration of all guns (and they would never register them all for this exact reason) the best we can do is raid their house and place of employment.

That is why I say donít let any of these fuckers out before trial.

Also why I say red flag laws need to be updated (if they are not already) forcing a person to sign a document saying they have turned them all in under penalty of a Mandatory 10 years per gun and per bullet they are found with after signing the document.

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #10)

Mon May 17, 2021, 01:55 PM

45. K/R

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #10)

Mon May 17, 2021, 01:58 PM

47. K/R

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #10)

Mon May 17, 2021, 01:59 PM

48. Excellent points.

Welcome to DU, LiberatedUSA!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:21 AM

8. WTF??? 🤬

Why any of them are out on bail is beyond me.


Never should have been released! I'm all for remanding this piece of human garbage to custody WITH JUDGE WHO RELEASED HIM AS CELLMATE.

Seems judge needs to learn.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #8)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:00 AM

24. Kyle Rittenhouse, the Right Wing killer of two protesters in Kenosha

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is out on bail.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #24)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:03 AM

25. Oh I know

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:22 AM

9. "Why any of them are out on bail is beyond me."

I know!!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #9)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:52 AM

17. The original charges were not felonies....

I'm pretty sure they were trespassing level charges used as placeholders until superseding charges could be brought.

It would be unusual for a judge to order pre-trial jail for a misdemeanor level charge. And lets face it, trump appointed a lot of federal judges and some are sympathetic to the accused.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #17)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:40 AM

36. "lets face it, trump appointed a lot of federal judges

You just stated one of the biggest problems we will face for the next 30+ years.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #9)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:33 AM

35. Me 3

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:45 AM

13. The mountain lion's life is worth more than any of the Jan. 6 trump forces. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #13)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:49 AM

15. That sums up the entire article.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #13)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:07 AM

27. Worth more than ALL qpukes, imo.

Gawd i hate them.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #13)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:41 AM

38. Agreed.

If a mountain lion, or bear, were chasing someone in a MAGAt hat and they both ran out in front of my car... well, let's just say I'd make sure I didn't hit the 4-legged animal.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:47 AM

14. These

fuckers just have to kill things. I don't understand the need to kill a beautiful wild animal. He's certainly not going to eat it. POS should rot in prison.

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Response to Ingersollman (Reply #14)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:40 AM

37. State rules say hunters can kill lions only with the intent of consuming "all harvested lion meat,"

and Colorado Parks and Wildlife requires game wardens to issue citations to enforce the rule against "wasted lion meat."

These people seem to enjoy eating anything they kill - gators, snakes, bears...whatever walks, crawls, flies or swims - but I've never heard of humans consuming mountain lions. Perhaps "consuming" means hunters can feed the lion meat to their dogs.

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Response to Ingersollman (Reply #14)

Tue May 18, 2021, 02:17 AM

63. I did a google search...

It turns out that not only do people eat mountain lions, they're pretty good - the meat is like lean pork.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:50 AM

16. What a great guy. Illegally killed a bobcat, armed robbery, claims that he has trapped (killed)...

... 100 other cougars, and tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power by being part of a violent attack on the
US Capitol.




My guess is this asshole had his dogs run this magnificent animal up a tree and then he shot it

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Response to Botany (Reply #16)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:56 AM

19. That's no bob cat.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #19)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:04 AM

26. I know

Killing the bobcat was another time.

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Response to Botany (Reply #16)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:00 AM

23. That is disgusting.

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #23)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:13 AM

30. Don Jr. and Eric made this sort of thing fashionable again.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:55 AM

18. Sic the game warden on him,

Fine his ass if he wasn't allowed to have a gun, then killing that mountain lion should be illegal.

Take away the guns from all of those traitors.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:56 AM

20. So infuriating and unfair. We definitely have 2 systems of justice

in this country. At least 2.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:59 AM

22. These REALLY are...

Just the shittiest people around.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:11 AM

29. such fine people . half of them were buisness owners and half of them had criminal records .

fine people indeed.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:19 AM

31. It's beyond me as well, since the beginning of "rounding" up these insurrectionists,

with each one released pending trial, has me shaking my head. Then I read about how a number of these judges seem to be sympathetic actors laying kid gloves. Read about former Military officers making some statement sympathetic to their "cause".

We have more than a little problem when we have judges giving comfort to these thugs.

editing to ask the question of the result of the request to have his bail revoked?

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:22 AM

32. It was terrorism.....

The attempted coup d'etat, was an act of terrorism, pure and simple. The terrorists would have killed: Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC, Tlaib, Romney among many others.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:27 AM

33. Is it legal to shoot a mountain lion?

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #33)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:50 AM

40. Absolutely.

A licensed spring hunt.

The number of bears, cougar, bobcat, wolf, and coyotes killed every year in America for sport would appal you.

Here in WA, they have professional bear hunters who kill bears coming out of hibernation on commercial forest land, because they'll strip bark off timber to get at the sap - and damage the tree. "Resource Protection". One bear tore a hunter's arm off a few years back.

One minute of Googling: https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/RulesRegs/Brochure/MountainLion.pdf

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #33)

Mon May 17, 2021, 12:00 PM

43. It depends upon the location. It's legal in 14 states.

Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington, North Dakota, South Dakota, Texas, Arizona, and Nevada. Roughly two thousand mountain lions are legally killed by hunters each year.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:27 AM

34. Hold him in a cell full of hungry mountain lions.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #34)

Mon May 17, 2021, 11:51 AM

42. Echoes of Ramsay Bolton.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:12 AM

39. Where's The "Ha Ha" Kid From The Simpsons?

He's needed....again. So I'll say it for him.

Ha Ha.
Ha Ha
Ha Ha.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:55 AM

41. Part of the bail problem IMO is "the War on Drugs" has packed our jails. From local to federal.

EVERY day we hear via our police and EMS scanner local police take people into custody with outstanding warrants only to have the jails refuse to take them. Although we have no way of knowing the number of empty jail cells my guess is they are at full capacity. Our courts are backlogged and crimes are getting worse.

Guns on our streets are now an increasing problem. Home invasions are no longer a rarity. Drug use and manufacturing is a major contributor. And now its deaths due to street drug overdoses are also on the rise. Meth laced with fentanyl has now brought on deaths due to irreversible overdoses.

When we moved here we never had to lock our houses or our cars. That is no longer the case.

And let's not blame the Covid pandemic.

The increasing problems have been building over the last 15-20 years.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #41)

Tue May 18, 2021, 04:29 AM

64. Crime overall

is actually the lowest itís been since the early 60s. Crime started increasing in the late 60s and peaked in the mid 90s. Itís sharply declined since, with murder at a much lower rate. NYC had 2200 murders in Ď92 while in recent years they rarely crack 400. And thatís the case in most places although where you live may be an exception. People typically view the past with rose-colored glasses on this issue, believing that the present is inherently more dangerous. One example is parents being afraid beyond reason of child abduction when the truth is that kids are safer than ever. Crime did increase some due to COVID but not a lot. I did a large research project on the issue so I know what Iím talking about.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #64)

Tue May 18, 2021, 10:31 AM

66. I believe you. However the region I live in has typically lagged behind in every respect. It is....

.... still possible to find a livable home for under $60,000. With fixer-ups under $40,000.

So when "big city" crime starts to show up here people take notice.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 01:29 PM

44. Why any of them are out on bail is beyond me.

That says it all.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 02:13 PM

49. What a totally unexpected move on Montgomery's part!

Or not.

I'm kind of ambivalent about bail v remand for them. The downside(s) of bail are many, and the arguments well-founded, but at least the taxpayer isn't paying for their pretrial waiting, and - given this case as a perfect example - they are also being given enough rope to hang themselves.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 02:41 PM

51. Most important line: "Why any of them are out on bail is beyond me. "

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 03:27 PM

53. Give an idiot a gun, don't be surprised when they do something stupid with them.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:34 PM

56. I'm pretty pro gun

but this asshole should be in jail until trial, as should *anyone* who misuses one in any way.

Scum.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:35 PM

57. These people have no common sense whatsoever.

Which proves the theory that "common sense" isn't all that common, after all.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:42 PM

59. Evil scumbag traitor.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:19 PM

60. He was a law abiding citizen right up to the point that he wasn't.

At some point he purchased his firearms legally. Then at another point he committed a crime and wasn't a law abiding citizen.

I don't need protection from criminals, we have a whole police and criminal court system to do that.

I WANT PROTECTION FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Tue May 18, 2021, 12:05 AM

62. Maybe he thought he was holding a taser. nt

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