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Jeebo

(2,560 posts)
Mon May 17, 2021, 11:06 PM May 2021

I hope somebody will point this out to Joe Manchin.

If the Democrats don't change the Senate filibuster rules now, the next time the Republicons control the Senate, THEY WILL. It should be obvious to everybody by now that the filibuster's days are numbered, and whichever party is in power when it goes away, that party will benefit.

-- Ron

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I hope somebody will point this out to Joe Manchin. (Original Post) Jeebo May 2021 OP
K&R, ... and they'll change the filibuster rules quick fast with no fan fair and a nary of protest uponit7771 May 2021 #1
They JUST had control and they did not get rid of the filibuster krawhitham May 2021 #2
Good point, and it's worth figuring out why they didn't caraher May 2021 #3
Exactly StarfishSaver May 2021 #6
But the Democrats almost did. Jeebo May 2021 #4
True StarfishSaver May 2021 #5

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
1. K&R, ... and they'll change the filibuster rules quick fast with no fan fair and a nary of protest
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:43 AM
May 2021

... cause few to no one will know about it.

Their give a fuck at the end of the day wont be there and since they control the message they wont pay a big political price

caraher

(6,359 posts)
3. Good point, and it's worth figuring out why they didn't
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:50 AM
May 2021

The reason is that the filibuster functions as a tool of obstruction, and the Republicans have no legislative agenda worth mentioning that they need to enact. (Tax cuts, deregulation, packing the courts... Democratic filibusters stop basically none of this when Republicans hold the White House and Senate).

It's a fundamentally reactionary mechanism that works to thwart change, and thus, on balance, serves Republicans better than Democrats.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. Exactly
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:00 PM
May 2021

Republicans weren't doing much in the Senate that could have been stopped with a filibuster other than pushing through judges and they had already eliminated the filibuster for judicial nominations.

Jeebo

(2,560 posts)
4. But the Democrats almost did.
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:50 PM
May 2021

And they still might. So my point is that the Republicons will see that it ALMOST happened this time, so next time around it probably will, so they (the Republicons) will figure that they'd better go ahead and do it themselves while they are in power and it will benefit them, rather than wait until the next time around when the Democrats are in power and they can do it while it benefits them. Do you see my point? And I wish somebody would argue that point with Joe Manchin. And with Kyrsten Sinema, too.

-- Ron

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. True
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:58 PM
May 2021

Why I've had it up to here with the "We can't do that because when the Republicans get back in, they may use it against us" handwringing as if Republicans need to take cues from us in order to abuse their power.

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