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marble falls

(57,355 posts)
Wed May 19, 2021, 08:20 AM May 2021

Capitol Rioters' 'Trump Defense' Comes Up Again And Again. Will It Make A Difference?


Capitol Rioters’ ‘Trump Defense’ Comes Up Again And Again. Will It Make A Difference?

By Matt Shuham

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/capitol-rioters-trump-defense-comes-up-again-and-again-will-it-make-a-difference

May 18, 2021 7:01 a.m.
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Chansley’s attorney wrote that his client had been consistent “in his assertion that but for the actions and the words of the President, he would not have appeared in Washington, DC to support the President and, but for the specific words of the then-President during his January 6, 2021 speech, the Defendant would not have walked down Pennsylvania Avenue and would not have gone into the U.S. Capitol Building.”

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“One strategy is to say, ‘Look, I was misled, I misunderstood this, I’m sorry. I now know I shouldn’t have done this, that that was wrong, but I was watching all these people on TV and I heard what the President said,’” Sandick said. “Not that that would excuse what was done, but it might be a mitigating fact for some judges at sentencing.”
‘I Want To Separate Him Out From That Herd Of Thugs’

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“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all fucking short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”

“But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. Fuck, they were subjected to four-plus years of goddamn propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since fucking Hitler.”

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Tierney Sneed contributed reporting.


Jail them all. Hard five years and up. Just for excuse making and rationalizing sedition.
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Capitol Rioters' 'Trump Defense' Comes Up Again And Again. Will It Make A Difference? (Original Post) marble falls May 2021 OP
we need to make an example of these people paleotn May 2021 #1
Absolutely. They're just trying to game their way around personal responsibility and justice. marble falls May 2021 #2
👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽 THIS! IrishAfricanAmerican May 2021 #12
A faux diminished capacity/insanity plea. Denied. Marcuse May 2021 #3
Coddle them and we'll only sink deeper into the abyss BeyondGeography May 2021 #4
This calls out for tough love. marble falls May 2021 #5
If you don't understand the the difference between right or wrong, you are a danger to society. SamKnause May 2021 #6
This 👆🏼 UpInArms May 2021 #9
You have my permission. SamKnause May 2021 #10
Ignorance of the law is no excuse UpInArms May 2021 #7
So nice to see the other side coming apart at the seams. (nt) Paladin May 2021 #8
"Well, it's really not their fault they're uncontrollably violent halfwits!" struggle4progress May 2021 #11

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
1. we need to make an example of these people
Wed May 19, 2021, 08:33 AM
May 2021

for all the jackoloons who didn’t attack the Capital but wish they did. Attack or democracy and its 20 years minimum. No chance of early release.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
6. If you don't understand the the difference between right or wrong, you are a danger to society.
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:53 AM
May 2021

If you think stopping verified legitimate elections with violence is right, you are a danger to the public.

If you think beating, choking, gouging eyes out, spraying bear spray, and crushing cops is right, you are a danger to the public.

If you think breaking windows to enter and stealing government property is right, you are a danger to the public.

If you think peeing and pooping in the Capitol is right, you are a danger to the public.

If you think propaganda is truth and facts are lies, you are a danger to the public.

If you think being a member of cult with an evil lawless leader is right, you are a danger to the public.

If you think actively participating in trying to overthrow the government and destroy democracy, you are a danger to the public.

If you think chanting "Hang Mike Pence" is right, you are a danger to the public.

If you think planting bombs at the DNC and the RNC is right, you are a danger to the public.

If you think lying about what happened on January 6th is right, you are a danger to the public.


All of them should be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law !!!

I have zero sympathy for the insurrectionists, zero.


The politicians that bear some of the responsibility for January 6th should face the harshest punishments !!!

UpInArms

(51,285 posts)
7. Ignorance of the law is no excuse
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:55 AM
May 2021

nor is being ignorant ...

Go to jail ... do not pass go ... do not collect $200

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
11. "Well, it's really not their fault they're uncontrollably violent halfwits!"
Wed May 19, 2021, 10:13 AM
May 2021
Maybe we should give them all guns!
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