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Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
Thu May 20, 2021, 09:23 AM May 2021

Another FIVE Bites the Dust......This is listed under sucks to be them.

Two were turned in by anonymous tipsters.

Another defendant from Western New York was identified when his photo matched a mugshot from an earlier arrest.

And their faces appeared in videos posted to Facebook or YouTube or on surveillance cameras and police bodycams that are being used as evidence against them, according to court documents. On Tuesday and Wednesday, federal authorities arrested five people in Western New York for their alleged participation in the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection in Washington D.C.

Authorities investigating the Jan. 6th insurrection at the Capitol say two extremist groups that traveled to Washington along with thousands of other Trump supporters weren't whipped into an impulsive frenzy by President Donald Trump that day.

The people arrested Wednesday in the Buffalo area were William Michael Sywak, 45, of Hamburg, and his son William Jason Sywak, 27, of Arcade; Traci Sunstrum, 44, of Amherst; and John Juran, 51, of Williamsville. Daniel Warmus of Alden, who is accused of bragging at a dentist's office about breaching the Capitol building and smoking marijuana while inside, was arrested Tuesday.

All five are facing federal misdemeanor charges.


https://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/anonymous-tips-email-data-and-a-brag-led-to-arrest-of-5-wny-in-capitol/article_3bcfa2c6-b8b3-11eb-ac5f-0b5409d37250.html

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Another FIVE Bites the Dust......This is listed under sucks to be them. (Original Post) Rustyeye77 May 2021 OP
Long time acoming. riversedge May 2021 #1
The Gen-X Insurrection greenjar_01 May 2021 #2
And some actually have lives to blow up dawg day May 2021 #3
Sorry for being a dick, but, I must rewrite bottomofthehill May 2021 #6
. Vdizzle May 2021 #15
He may not have accrued enough time on active duty to qualify for a pension RVN VET71 May 2021 #16
Officer punishment works differently than enlisted GregariousGroundhog May 2021 #22
I'll take your word and thank you for it! RVN VET71 May 2021 #24
No Dick! Traildogbob May 2021 #19
The FBI have become masters at sifting mountains of data FakeNoose May 2021 #4
Republican/Nazis are some real dumb shits. johnthewoodworker May 2021 #5
I've never heard of such serious crimes committed by so many people who provide all the ... marble falls May 2021 #9
I'd just like to know how insurrection equals a misdemeanor offense Scalded Nun May 2021 #7
THANK YOU! My first thought, too. It's not f'ing jaywalking. CurtEastPoint May 2021 #8
Federal misdemeanors can bring huge fines and more than a year in jail. There will be ... marble falls May 2021 #12
But still can vote. jimfields33 May 2021 #14
For the older ones collecting Social Security, they will loose that if they go to prison. LiberalArkie May 2021 #18
Ask not for whom the sirens howl Marthe48 May 2021 #10
Just imagine storming your way by force into you county courthouse. That is unthinkable and would Pepsidog May 2021 #11
"Bragging at a dentist's office" Cracklin Charlie May 2021 #13
"...bragging at a dentist's office..." dchill May 2021 #17
Misdemeanors? Thunderbeast May 2021 #20
I'm very happy the investigation is still ongoing, and thrilled that it is yielding more arriests, BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #21
The Rioters Do Time, While the Perpetrator Dines modrepub May 2021 #23
Enjoy that prison food boys. lpbk2713 May 2021 #25
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
2. The Gen-X Insurrection
Thu May 20, 2021, 09:44 AM
May 2021

No, seriously. So many of these dipshits were between 42 and 52. It's almost unbelievable that they'd blow up their lives behind this shit in their mid-forties!

What the fuck?

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. And some actually have lives to blow up
Thu May 20, 2021, 09:50 AM
May 2021

I keep thinking of that Marine major. His career is shot, and he could lose his pension and get a dishonorable discharge.

And for Trump!

bottomofthehill

(8,346 posts)
6. Sorry for being a dick, but, I must rewrite
Thu May 20, 2021, 10:27 AM
May 2021

I keep thinking of that Marine major. His career is shot, and he SHOULD lose his pension and get a dishonorable discharge. He was involved in an insurrection against the United States, he violated the Constitution that he swore an oath to protect and defend.

Fuck him, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He knows better and still decided to play stupid games.

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
16. He may not have accrued enough time on active duty to qualify for a pension
Thu May 20, 2021, 11:06 AM
May 2021

The Marines may sever him from the service and leave him pensionless. Or they may simply demote him to private and let him serve out his time if he so chooses. But, of course, with a dose of civilian prison time facing him, the Corps may not have that option --- even if it wanted to consider it, which I doubt.

And, as pertains to the crimes he knowingly and willingly committed on January 6, 2021, let me rephrase your summing up: "To play stupid and treasonous games, you will be treated as a stupid traitor.”

I am still more than a little amazed at the man’s lack of awareness. A Major and he didn’t realize that treason has consequences!

GregariousGroundhog

(7,526 posts)
22. Officer punishment works differently than enlisted
Thu May 20, 2021, 12:12 PM
May 2021

Enlisted members can be reduced in rank and/or kicked out using a (increasing in severity) Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, or Dishonorable Discharge.

Officers can not be reduced in rank, and can be Dismissed instead of being kicked out with one of the three discharges above. Dismissal is basically equivalent to Dishonorable Discharge in terms of repercussions. That said, as a rule of thumb someone must serve three years honorably in a rank to retire in that rank.

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
24. I'll take your word and thank you for it!
Thu May 20, 2021, 01:13 PM
May 2021

I had labored in the misbelief that the military relieved officers of their commissions and reduced them in rank to E-1 if their crimes were sufficient to require imprisonment.

Traildogbob

(8,795 posts)
19. No Dick!
Thu May 20, 2021, 11:30 AM
May 2021

The code of military justice has it in writing. Knowingly commit sedition or not report it, “Death Penalty”.
No pension needed when ya dead. South Carolina just reinstated the firing squad. Lots of bases in SC. Great place for a trial and penalty.

FakeNoose

(32,745 posts)
4. The FBI have become masters at sifting mountains of data
Thu May 20, 2021, 10:02 AM
May 2021

The feds have videos and photos of all (or most) of those people who were at the Capitol that day, but investigators need to connect names to those faces. The FBI also has cellphone records from the U.S Capitol celltower which captured IDs for everyone who carried and used a phone that day. But they need to match up the cellphone IDs with the images - and that's where citizens have been helping.

Any of us can look at those still photos or videos and perhaps see someone we know. People are still sending info to the FBI tip line and webpages even now. Stuff gets stupidly posted on Facebook too, as we have seen. The tips the feds get are sometimes good, but they could just as likely be incorrect or incomplete. The investigators still need to thoroughly vet every tip, and then follow up with questioning suspects and their companions. Hundreds of manhours go into each suspect and arrest!

marble falls

(57,182 posts)
9. I've never heard of such serious crimes committed by so many people who provide all the ...
Thu May 20, 2021, 10:32 AM
May 2021

... evidence needed to prosecute them without being forced to plead and even before they are charged.

They certainly tied their lawyers' hands!

marble falls

(57,182 posts)
12. Federal misdemeanors can bring huge fines and more than a year in jail. There will be ...
Thu May 20, 2021, 10:38 AM
May 2021

... a lot of jobs lost, legal debts, loss of professional bonding and security clearances, loss of military careers, VA benefits, and time in military brigs.


https://www.burnhamgorokhov.com/ins-outs-misdemeanors-federal-court/

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/misdemeanor-crimes-classes-and-penalties.htm

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
18. For the older ones collecting Social Security, they will loose that if they go to prison.
Thu May 20, 2021, 11:18 AM
May 2021

If that is they sole income, they might loose their homes, cars etc.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
11. Just imagine storming your way by force into you county courthouse. That is unthinkable and would
Thu May 20, 2021, 10:37 AM
May 2021

most certainly result in prison time especially if injuries to police occurred. Now times that by 10,000 when you attack the Capitol anytime, let alone during the transition of power process.

Thunderbeast

(3,418 posts)
20. Misdemeanors?
Thu May 20, 2021, 11:48 AM
May 2021

Are they not all accessories (unwitting) to at least one homicide of a cop?

I thought when the bank robber kills someone in the bank, the getaway driver is also guilty of the crime.



BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
21. I'm very happy the investigation is still ongoing, and thrilled that it is yielding more arriests,
Thu May 20, 2021, 11:50 AM
May 2021

but are misdemeanor charges the best they can do?

modrepub

(3,502 posts)
23. The Rioters Do Time, While the Perpetrator Dines
Thu May 20, 2021, 12:30 PM
May 2021

I guess the point that the Republican "establishment" is doing everything in their power to protect the perpetrator of "the Big Lie" that whipped the lesser folks into a frenzy, while not only ignoring them but claiming the bulk of them are not Trump supporters. There's probably a better way to say this.

It just amazes me that so many folks are willing to basically sacrifice their lives for a person (and party) that doesn't give 2 pisses about them beyond using them to exert their power.

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