Cannabis, cannabis, cannabis!

[lordjin]

Hello, Underground dwellers!

Are y'all ready for the green America of tomorrow?
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As a long-time cultivator of medical marijuana in the fair state of California, I naturally support pro-cannabis legislation.
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But how do you folks feel about the legalization measures in Colorado, Washington and Oregon?
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Are you for it? Against it? Why?

[orpupilofnature57]

1. AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lordjin]

2. That's one for

Anyone else?

[JaneyVee]

56. YES!

[lordjin]

109. Yes!

to your yes.

[Floyd_Gondolli]

3. I think I got a buzz from the first pic

Incredible looking buds. You've got one helluva green thumb!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. I support legalizing cannabis. NOT decriminalizing. Legalizing.

[orpupilofnature57]

59. YEAH, And until there's " Medical Vodka " let's not cloud

the issue ,a buzzzzzz just like ATVs , snowmobiling , gambling , Eating our favorite foods, all which can kill you .

[porphyrian]

65. ...

[Voice for Peace]

73. "my doctor says I need marijuana to get high"

[porphyrian]

74. I miss Mr. Show.

[lordjin]

108. This forum...

needs a like button for posts.

[orpupilofnature57]

114. Smart guy, he liked to bzzzzzzz and cause some .

[Scuba]

90. +1,000

[piratefish08]

5. I fully support it and can't wait for VT to follow suit!

we have surprisingly restrictive MM laws.

Hoping to see it legalized at some point......

[99th_Monkey]

6. Hallelujah !

[lordjin]

25. I love you...

Jesus of Cannabis.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

55. Amen!!

[immoderate]

7. Not too soon for me!

You give lessons?

--imm

[lordjin]

11. As a matter of fact yes!

Click on my signature for cannabis growing instruction plus much, much more.

[liberaltrucker]

26. Bookmarked

And welcome to DU!

[lordjin]

42. Thank you!

I already feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

[immoderate]

52. You cover some of my favorite topics...

I didn't find the concise tips yet, but I'll get back to you when I need help

I'm in an apartment. Does the carbon scrubber really eliminate the "perfume?" I'm quite concerned about that.

Thanx!

--imm

[lordjin]

107. The carbon scrubber

is an invaluable tool for combatting odor, yes.

Is there a PM function here? I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.

[porphyrian]

8. For, and not fair flashing your ladies like that...

[lordjin]

12. "Flashing my ladies?"

You don't know the half of it.

[porphyrian]

14. ...

[mike_c]

9. totally support legalization...

...and those are some fine buds you've got there. I'm in norcal too. I'm really surprised a legalization initiative didn't make it onto the ballot in CA this year. I think it would have been an exceptional year to do it, what with the presidential election and all. I'm looking forward to Colorado and Washington becoming the first states to fully challenge the federal prohibition. Wish it was us.

[lordjin]

17. We will have our time in the sun...

For now, let's just light up and watch what happens in Washington, Colorado and Oregon. Peace!

[spanone]

10. it's like i have a smellaputer.....ahhhh that's nice....

[lordjin]

34. Don't let your smellaputer near this...

The above photos showcases Tahoe OG Kush from my last grow. This here is what I'm growing now...The world-famous Louie XIII OG Kush.
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[mike_c]

81. drool....

Ok, it's time to go home and load the bong.

[HeeBGBz]

13. Makes my mouth water

I go to court for my misdemeanor Thursday. No word yet on the felony for the two seedlings.

[lordjin]

15. Bummer

My blog is sure to cheer you up!

[darkangel218]

16. I have never smoked pot in my life so i have no opinion :/ nt

[lordjin]

18. Aha!

A virgin!

[darkangel218]

20. Ive seen people smoke it at metal concerts, but i never wanted to try it. i prefer beer :)

But I guess whatever makes ppl happy should be legal. From what I heard is not any worse than alcohol.

[lordjin]

22. Hey, darkangel...

It is worlds better than alcohol. There's no hangover... plus it never gives you the urge to beat your wife and kids!

[kath]

32. Way safer than alcohol - you can die of alcohol poisoning, but there is no such thing as a lethal

overdose of cannabis.
And, as the poster above says, it doesn't make you want to beat your wife and kids, or start barfights.

[lordjin]

37. Thank you, kath!

[Raster]

38. you do, however, get downright vicious with a bag of Oreos.

[lordjin]

48. Lol

I mean, like seriously... el oh el.

[Raster]

50. Thank you! Been enjoying the herb since I was 15. I am 55 now.

However, I need to lose about 40 pounds, and the only way I know is to take an herb vacay.

I smoke, I consume. It's just that simple. But DAMN, do I enjoy!

[Voice for Peace]

75. I think enjoyment is the secret of health, even if it doesn't necessarily prolong your life

[porphyrian]

80. I think you and Voltaire are right.

I also think it does prolong your life.

[Voice for Peace]

83. I'm still not convinced that health determines length of life

I know it sounds ridiculous.. but I often suspect that the
length of life is predetermined. That there is a set
appointment for death. We don't get to know when it is, but
it's there. We come with an expiry date, and that's when
we expire.

There are so many cases of healthy people dying,
sick people living forever, long after they have stopped enjoying,
and people who survive impossible odds,
babies who arrive and depart like a little wave that splashes on the beach,
and so on.

No question that health determines, or at least affects, quality of life, while we're here.

[porphyrian]

85. Health alone is only a factor of longevity.

I believe that there may be something to fatalism with regards to the fact that, in the future, there will have been a single path through space-time each of us will have traveled to our end. While we live, that end is likely still true; we will reach it through the choices we make along the way.

What I do know is that depression, anger, stress and other "negative" emotions mirror themselves in our physical health and can kill us (heart attacks, for example). There is some evidence that these can even cause cancer. There is also some evidence that happiness and laughter can boost our immune systems and, if not cure disease, prevent the negative mental states that make things worse. I don't believe happiness alone extends life any more than I believe jogging does, especially if you get killed in a car wreck, say. But, it can prevent the depression that may have caused you heart disease that would have killed you sooner, barring any other factors.

Or, I'm just full of shit.

[Voice for Peace]

89. no you are not,

full of shit, I mean.
but many people are. it never occurs to them,
that's how you can tell.

I started looking for exceptions to all the rules
about life and death and what keeps us alive,
and found so many exceptions, enough to satisfy me
that I could quit worrying and start enjoying more.
Deal with it when it arrives.

You're right that there are so many factors. Health is
one, genetics I suppose.. but then there are the sids
babies. Who knows, not me.

[TheMadMonk]

86. Well there is, but the carbon monoxide will get you first.

Ingestion?

LD50 = 1200-3000 milligrams/kg of bodyweight.
Top end skunk might run to 30% THC dry weight.

So if you somehow manage to choke down a couple of kilos of top end gear, you might manage to poison yourself.

[ohheckyeah]

31. That' just sad.

[Logical]

19. Never have tried it but will if it is legal!

[GoneOffShore]

21. Why wait till then?

[lordjin]

23. I agree.

Life is short.

[GoneOffShore]

29. And there's lots of good stuff out there.

[Logical]

96. Weird personal deal. Odd I admit!

[ohheckyeah]

24. I support full legalization of marijuana.

Legal to grow and legal for anyone over 18 to use.

[lordjin]

27. I love this place!

Democratic Underground, I've come home.

[EarthGurl2012]

51. Welcome Home, Love your Ladies.

Yummy!

[independentpiney]

28. love those trichomes nt

[darkangel218]

30. Whats a trichome?

[darkangel218]

35. nvm, i looked it up. n/t

[lordjin]

36. Oh, pot jargon!

Love it!

[Mnemosyne]

33. Welcome lordjin! Beautiful photos! Yum! nt

[lordjin]

40. Thank you.

I've been looking for a place like Democratic Underground for some time.

A message board where people are actually smart? Interesting concept. Lol.

[Mnemosyne]

43. There are some brilliant minds here, and apparently a green thumb or two!

[lordjin]

45. Hooray

for you!

[Voice for Peace]

77. in my opinion some of the smartest and the funniest people are here on DU

some of the best writers, even if they are "nobody" --
and a lot of original thinking, great ideas, & passion.

[marlakay]

39. Voting yes on 502 in WA state

And if god forbid R & R win we will all need it!

[lordjin]

41. Perish the R and R thought...

But that did make me smile.

[Ohio Joe]

44. I live in Colorado...

I am voting for it because it is the smart thing to do. It is a relatively harmless drug... More so then alcohol or tobacco. The "war on drugs" is a dismal failure that is a drain on our economy and our people. I also enjoy smoking very much and can think of no reason it should not be legal and taxed like any of the other vices I participate in... namely alcohol and tobacco.

[lordjin]

46. Congratulations!

Have a flower!
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[2theleft]

47. All for here...

Safer than alchohol, and more fun, too.

[lordjin]

49. Aw, this place is AWESOME!

You guys want to come over and smoke a bowl?

[Samjm]

53. yes here in CO!

I'm in CO and I will be voting YES to legalize it. The world did not end when we legalized medical marijuana like the antis warned us would happen. And the taxes from the legal sales will go to education. Win win!

[lordjin]

58. Yes!

Win!

[ZombieHorde]

54. I'm for it, for all the usual reasons. nt

[OldDem2012]

57. Awwww!!! Little tiny Christmas trees!!! Wait...what!?!? Where's my Zig-Zags!! nt.

[orpupilofnature57]

61. Zig - Zags still the most popular and out of them papers .

a conspiracy against the FRENCH .

[lordjin]

60. Hey, you guys are just awesome.

Why didn't I sign up to this site sooner?

Oh, well. Better late than never.

[Le Taz Hot]

62. Very nice!

Legalize. Yes! It's time to have a showdown with the feds about this benign herb that USED to be legal until the Big Boys got a hold of it.

[lordjin]

64. Yes

You're on the guest list.

[Oilwellian]

63. You pot teaser you

It's time to legalize this most wonderfully medicinal herb. Be patient and wait for the amber to appear.

[lordjin]

67. "Wait for the amber to appear?"

We got a grower here, folks.

[underoath]

66. Beautiful pictures!

I'm sooooooo for it!

[GeorgeGist]

68. Pot porn ...

Love it.

[mshasta]

69. not for me stinks!

is too stinky.. I am for legalized ....if they can make it with some lavender....mint, strawberries, basil.. has a fabulous smell
that will be great

[lordjin]

72. And that...

is precisely why I have a carbon scrubber.
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[Buddyblazon]

76. Mines the size of a hot water heater :)

We have a smaller one just to scrub the air in our room.

[mshasta]

82. dammmm

that's what I am talking about !!
that will create more jobs !! can you see it? people like me who hates that freaking smell of pot will buy some of those thingies just like the one in the picture !!

the many potential applications in legalizing it is just amazing $$$$$$$


you are genius!!

[Logical]

97. How about brownies?

[Iggy]

70. BIG Pharma, BIG Pharma

BIG Pharma!!!

show all the lovely photos you want-- as long as big corporations run the Circus (Senate) we're not going to
get decriminalization nationwide.. let alone legalization.

FORGET IT.

[lordjin]

71. Aw...

boo.

[Iggy]

113. "Sorry", I've Been Observing Our Pathetic

political system for nearly forty years now-- I can more or less guarantee you pot will never
be decriminalized in all fifty states.. and forget about legalization.

[libertypirate]

105. Nice Buds!, Uh Iggy how about some factual reality

It is the biggest cash crop in many states "Big Pharma" has already failed. Now they want in. Phuck em side ways and just overgrow the world!

BTW. My compliments on the nice buds from a fellow long time compatriot. Sticks to your fingers with out even trying bud always puts a smile on my face.

[Iggy]

112. FACTUAL REALITY is What I am Talking About

let's see if I understand this: you and others here are stating Big Pharma, a multiple Billion dollar
per year industry is OK with decriminalization/legalization of pot in all fifty states?

HAH HAH HAHH!!! that's a good one! got any more funnies? just how high are you right now??

[libertypirate]

116. Not decriminalization

taking over... It already happened where were you?

The plant is a schedule 1 and the active ingredient is a schedule 3, and it is not a bit funny.

Also patients who suffer debilitating pain caused by the nervous system don't get high. We barely get relief.

[kestrel91316]

78. I have some on my balcony that resembles that right now, but not as frosty.

But it's from a bagseed, so I have no idea what it is, I, S, or hybrid.........

[Change has come]

79. Delicious!

[green for victory]

84. WA 502 is *not* "legalization"

besides changing the DUI laws (for the worse) it makes home growing a single plant a FELONY (unless you have a med card or a "license&quot .

The DUI thing is very bad too, medical patients better forget about driving for a few days after medicating.

502 is crafted by LEO's to get in front of this, since the smartest of them know fighting it is a lost cause.

http://www.theolympian.com/2012/10/07/2278108/should-pot-be-legal-no-voters.html

Should pot be legal? NO: Voters should hold out for real reform, not fall for this narrow proposal

Douglas Hiatt is a Seattle-based criminal defense attorney and a co-founder of Sensible Washington, which opposes Initiative 502 and advocates for legalization of hemp and cannabis

"Washington voters are being told a big lie. New Approach Washington, the campaign behind Initiative 502, is advertising that it will “legalize” marijuana. It would not.

It creates a very narrow exception that defines the possession of one ounce by adults over 21, and the state’s rules for production, as “not a violation” of the law.

I-502 leaves every single law now making marijuana illegal on the books. Walk out of the state-sanctioned, licensed and taxed store and hand the marijuana to your significant other and it is a delivery of marijuana. This is not comprehensive, real reform.

What I-502 does change is our DUI law. Our current DUI laws are working just fine and result in conviction rates of over 90 percent. This initiative sets unneeded, unasked for and unscientific levels for impairment for adults (5 nanograms, rejected three times by the Colorado Legislature), while establishing a zero-tolerance provision for all drivers 16 to 21.

It also takes away your ability to defend yourself. If you meet the levels, you are guilty. No explaining that you are a patient, no arguing about the levels or tolerance, nothing. For drivers age 16 to 21, any detectable amount of marijuana will result in a DUI conviction and disastrous effects on their parents’ insurance...(MORE)

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"...No on I-502 is the primary group opposing Initiative 502. Their website denounces what they describe as I-502's "new approach to prohibition", and describes how the DUID provisions of I-502 may actually increase the potential penalty for marijuana use, and lead to a new era in the war on drugs under color of DUID prosecutions, as part of what they describe as a nationwide strategy to move war on drugs from the current focus on sales and possession to a new and more ominous offensive on drivers via new per se DUID laws like I-502. NoOn502 Website http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Initiative_502

"...The initiative would legalize use of marijuana products purchased from state authorized sources for adults 21 and over... Unlicensed cannabis will still be illegal, including personal "grows" in one's own home, except for medical cannabis as regulated under RCW 69.51A.

"...Part I identifies the goal of the initiative and authorizes the Washington State Liquor Control Board "to regulate and tax marijuana for persons twenty-one years of age and older, and add a new threshold for driving under the influence of marijuana."

"...Part III establishes a license system for marijuana producers, processors and retailers. Initial licenses shall be $250 with an annual renewal fee of $1000.

"...Part V on "driving under the influence of marijuana" sets a per se DUI limit of active blood THC levels at greater than or equal to 5 nanograms per milliliter. Some medical cannabis advocates are concerned that this will lead to DUI convictions for medicinal cannabis users, who are driving with blood THC levels greater than or equal to 5 nanograms per milliliter.[12] If a suspect's blood tests for more than 5 nanograms/ml, under I-502 they would be guilty of DUI by definition, as opposed to the current law, RCW 46.61.502(1)(a) which requires proof of "impairment" for a conviction.

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Legalization? Nope. It's a LEO Trojan horse.

[porphyrian]

95. Would you suggest voting against it, then?

Getting laws right often requires multiple takes over a period of years. I agree that this DUI provision is horrible, especially given that there is already an existing proof of impairment provision, but it may take the failure of this and the attendant outrage (or the proper Senator's DUI) to have it fixed. I'm not familiar with Washington law, but some Governors conduct line item vetos. Besides, isn't the ultimate goal to change the federal law, which may render state laws moot anyway? This can still work out.

[Logical]

98. MANY pro legalization people disagree with you 100%!

[PufPuf23]

87. Cannabis should be legal to grow, possess, and use responsibly.

Cannabis can be cheaper and more discerning for recreational and medical uses than alcohol, tobacco, and many common prescription drugs.

Defining "responsible use" is a problem of policy.

Employment tests for cannabis should only be mandated by profession, incident, and history of the employee.

"Responsible use" includes driving, and childcare and other concerns as well as a nuanced approach to employment.

Legalization is best broad: faux-ecology in the home, family garden, farmer's market, or pharmaceutical.

Cannabis is convergent to the evolution of human culture and physiology.

Hippie Jesus probably smoked pot (and some say took mushrooms too).

Ethnogens are another topic that IMHO are part of human evolution and history

[sarcasmo]

88. Kick! Kick! Kick!

[handsofthedevil]

91. Yep...

Very much for it. I also have many righty friends who are also for it. It really is a bipartisan issue. Its the religious right and the pharma companies that's so against it.

One area that Obama has been a complete failure on is marijuana/drug war. Complete and total disaster in that respect.

Legalize it, tax the shit out of it, and money will flow. I don't think that revenue stream would last forever in the sense that I think usage would level off after the initial "OMG ITS LEGAL" craze died down like it did in Holland.

[Egalitarian Thug]

92. For it without reservation. Prohibition has never worked, doesn't work, and never will. n/t

[defacto7]

93. Damn, I miss living in Amsterdam.....Amsterdamn good times.

Yeah... legalise it!

[Art_from_Ark]

94. Don't forget Arkansas

Arkansas has a medical marijuana initiative on the ballot.

[Logical]

99. Any chance of passing?

[Art_from_Ark]

102. If the voters are like the kids I went to high school with,

it'll pass with flying colors! Back in those days, the joke was "They don't call it 'high' school for nothing!"

All kidding aside, though, the Marijuana Policy Project seems to think it has a chance:

"Officials with the group said they stepped in after polling showed strong support for the measure in Arkansas. Group leaders also cite a "symbolic" value in passing a medical marijuana law in the South."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/arkansas-medical-marijuana_n_1919622.html

[TeamPooka]

100. Prohibition is a failed public polcy

[patrice]

101. K&R - I support the legalization of cannabis and HEMP.

[MrMickeysMom]

103. While I believe developmentally, it's not for teens, I do support legalizing it...

I don't think I've said anything that would surprise anyone in my generation.

We should return to hemp products for many, many reasons. The biggest one is the medicinal and NUTRITIONAL benefits of what comes from that bud.

We could have solar, wind, geothermal, greenhousing farms in winter, permaculture landscape for summer and storm-water management.

We could have grow houses for hemp, and all the byproducts, including fabric and rope, other construction materials from this plant.

We could cultivate renewable sources of energy, and when appropriate, cop a buzz after a hard day's work. ETOH related violence (DUI, hit and runs, domestic violence) would be down, and major orgasms could be on the rise.

Plant a seed.

[bluerum]

104. For it. Used a little for nausea from chemo. I was surprised at its efficacy.

I know it wasn't medical grade cause a friend gave it to me. But it sure helped.

[lordjin]

106. Yes!

Now that was the kind of post I was looking for! I'm so happy to read that!

Need medical grade? Come to California.

[limpyhobbler]

110. I'm for it. Because it is awesome.

[otohara]

111. Can't Wait to Vote YES

On Ammendment 64!

[porphyrian]

115. ...for the debate...