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calimary

(90,130 posts)
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:24 PM May 2021

A new talking point/slogan just occurred to me, regarding the GOP and January 6th

Why don't Republicans want a January 6th commission?

They don't want to get to the bottom of it because THEY are AT the bottom of it.

(Capitalization for verbal emphasis.)

Optional:

They don't want to get to the bottom of it because they're ALREADY AT the bottom of it.

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A new talking point/slogan just occurred to me, regarding the GOP and January 6th (Original Post) calimary May 2021 OP
Kicking for visibility and input. calimary May 2021 #1
Great framing, cali blm May 2021 #2
Thanks! I hope it'll be read, Said, and SPREAD! calimary May 2021 #4
Get thee to the greatest page for more visibility malaise May 2021 #3
Thanks, malaise! calimary May 2021 #5
Keep it front and center malaise May 2021 #9
There is no bottom to the GOP Generic Brad May 2021 #6
But it can be described as a bottomless pit! calimary May 2021 #7
They take the 5th on the 6th lame54 May 2021 #8
I see what you did there malaise May 2021 #10
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!! CLEVER!!!!!!! calimary May 2021 #12
This is good. Kickin' for visibility. BComplex May 2021 #11
Thanks! Me too! calimary May 2021 #13
Just another kick... calimary May 2021 #14
They ARE the bottom of it! NullTuples May 2021 #15
Totally and undeniably! calimary May 2021 #18
Absolutely on point peggysue2 May 2021 #16
Yep. None of the nogoodniks out there terrorizing the Capitol on January 6th had calimary May 2021 #19
When all the corruption is exposed... MiHale May 2021 #17
And it's fair to correct those who try to label the insurrectionists as mere "tourists." calimary May 2021 #20
+1000 MiHale May 2021 #44
Agree 100% n.t malaise May 2021 #23
Agree 100% n.t malaise May 2021 #24
Yep! And Yep, yet again! calimary May 2021 #29
Yup. Joinfortmill May 2021 #21
And another Yup! calimary May 2021 #51
Shit! Thanks for all the rec's, people! calimary May 2021 #22
Republicans don't want to get to the bottom of 1/6/21 because they're ALREADY AT the bottom of it. Stuart G May 2021 #25
Thanks! Hope it's useful! calimary May 2021 #27
I am so old I remember when homegirl May 2021 #26
That's a good one, too! calimary May 2021 #28
Never Forget homegirl May 2021 #55
That's the most important counter-measure we can employ. calimary May 2021 #63
Gleefully kicking for more visibility. niyad May 2021 #30
Oh THANK YOU, niyad! calimary May 2021 #32
why ol'kevin m. don't want testify under oath !! makes one wonder ? monkeyman1 May 2021 #31
I think he's speaking louder than he realizes. calimary May 2021 #33
Or, what my husband and I like to say in cases like this... calimary May 2021 #35
Ha ha ha! Beartracks May 2021 #57
I like it! Works for me! msfiddlestix May 2021 #34
Oh good! Glad you do! calimary May 2021 #36
You'd think that they'd be anxious to investigate all those ANTIFA rioters on 1/6 Joe Nation May 2021 #37
Indeed. How come they're in no hurry on that one, either? calimary May 2021 #52
k and r Champp May 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author rurallib May 2021 #39
Thanks! calimary May 2021 #50
Think I am going to start calling it "the first attack of the right wing War on America" rurallib May 2021 #40
Thing is - this kind of opponent can REALLY spur creativity! There's nothing like inspiration! calimary May 2021 #45
Agree a million percent. blueinredohio May 2021 #41
Thanks a million, my friend! calimary May 2021 #53
I like it! Short, concise, easy to remember and more importantly --- easy to understand. liberalla May 2021 #42
And it helps if it can fit on a bumper sticker. calimary May 2021 #43
I just realized another mechanical aspect, re: the all-important REPETITION. calimary May 2021 #48
From now on every time a repuke goes on cable news they should be asked first about 1/6 and kimbutgar May 2021 #46
Yes. Just as we used to take a child's temperature if colds 'n' flu were going around, calimary May 2021 #49
K&R Talitha May 2021 #47
Thanks, Talitha! calimary May 2021 #54
Each one of them is guilty. sheshe2 May 2021 #56
Thank you for adding to it, sheshe2! calimary May 2021 #60
Republicans are neo-anarchists Edwcraig May 2021 #58
And what do they think will happen after they've burned it all down calimary May 2021 #61
It was treason and we must never let them forget it. The Jungle 1 May 2021 #59
NEVER let them forget it. calimary May 2021 #62
I've been mulling over some language in terms of describing the current Republican party Picaro May 2021 #64
so true llashram May 2021 #65
Kick n/t malaise May 2021 #66
Agree 100%. arkielib May 2021 #67
Welcome to DU, arkielib! calimary May 2021 #69
Yet one more thing they are at the bottom of. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #68
Sheesh! No Kidding! calimary May 2021 #70

malaise

(296,346 posts)
3. Get thee to the greatest page for more visibility
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:29 PM
May 2021

It's the truth.

If(as the insurrectionist in chief said) it were Antifa and BLM, they'd be more enthusiastic than boy scouts.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
5. Thanks, malaise!
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:41 PM
May 2021

The GOP doesn't want to be talking about it?

FINE!

Then that's ALL that WE should be talking about - NONSTOP! From morning-to-NEXT-morning, and repeat! ALL THE WAY through 2022! And REPEAT. BECAUSE it's necessary!

calimary

(90,130 posts)
7. But it can be described as a bottomless pit!
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:48 PM
May 2021

'Cuz literally there are indeed no depths to which they won't sink.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
13. Thanks! Me too!
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:20 PM
May 2021

SOMETIMES I think I come up with a good, catchy, hopefully memorable talking point. My daddy was a salesman. A rather effective one. Especially with sloganeering.

One of his local ad campaigns, when he and a longtime friend had a furniture and appliance store: "Those two crazy Irishmen have done it again!" And it sure worked!

calimary

(90,130 posts)
14. Just another kick...
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:26 PM
May 2021

And don't forget - that's where you can always find the bottom-feeders! AT the bottom!

calimary

(90,130 posts)
18. Totally and undeniably!
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:46 PM
May 2021

NEVER FORGET!

And NEVER let ANYBODY ELSE forget!


Sorry to keep shouting, but I cannot avoid the feeling that this topic needs it, and deserves it!

peggysue2

(12,536 posts)
16. Absolutely on point
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:28 PM
May 2021

McCarthy was for the commission before he was against it. Interestingly, his reversal followed Liz Cheney's interview where she stated that McCarthy should be called to testify under oath what he knew and when he knew it.

The Republican (Party?) is complicit in the January 6th debacle. Which is why they do not want an investigation spoiling their plans for 2022 and beyond.

The GOP is not a loyal opposition. They are seditionists.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
19. Yep. None of the nogoodniks out there terrorizing the Capitol on January 6th had
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:47 PM
May 2021

Biden/Harris paraphernalia on. Of ANY sort.

MiHale

(13,056 posts)
17. When all the corruption is exposed...
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:37 PM
May 2021

if it’s ever allowed to be released to the public in its entirety, I do believe the shockwaves will floor most people in America.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
20. And it's fair to correct those who try to label the insurrectionists as mere "tourists."
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:49 PM
May 2021

Maybe they should point out that the PROPER pronunciation of that word is "terrorists."


TERRORISTS. NOT "tourists." Proper enunciation underscores your point.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
22. Shit! Thanks for all the rec's, people!
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:50 PM
May 2021

AND the posts! I wanted feedback on this. So THANKS, everybody!


(...more, please!)

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
25. Republicans don't want to get to the bottom of 1/6/21 because they're ALREADY AT the bottom of it.
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:57 PM
May 2021

Totally great, to be passed on to the entire U.S.A.

homegirl

(1,968 posts)
26. I am so old I remember when
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:59 PM
May 2021

the slogan was...

Remember Pearl Harbor

How about

Remember the Sixth!

or Never Forget the Sixth!


calimary

(90,130 posts)
28. That's a good one, too!
Sun May 23, 2021, 04:03 PM
May 2021

And since you bring up WW2, we could all take a page from what the Jewish community said, in its aftermath, regarding what horrors were committed and must not be allowed to fade from memory (OR THE RECORD!!!):

"NEVER FORGET!"

Indeed, indeed, indeed!

calimary

(90,130 posts)
63. That's the most important counter-measure we can employ.
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:12 AM
May 2021

NEVER forget. And ALWAYS remind.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
33. I think he's speaking louder than he realizes.
Sun May 23, 2021, 04:20 PM
May 2021

If there's no problem, Kevin?

If you have nothing to hide, Kevin?

If you have nothing to be ashamed of, Kevin?

If you have nothing TO ADMIT TO being ashamed of, Kevin?

Well then, come on, honey-child! Step right up and testify!

calimary

(90,130 posts)
35. Or, what my husband and I like to say in cases like this...
Sun May 23, 2021, 04:22 PM
May 2021

"SING, my Angel of Music!"

(With apologies to Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Phantom of the Opera", that is...)

calimary

(90,130 posts)
52. Indeed. How come they're in no hurry on that one, either?
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:22 PM
May 2021

Could it possibly be that they know, deep down, that there is no such thing involved in this case, or during this murderous seditious debacle. (My adjectives aren't gonna let 'em get away with it, either!)

Response to Champp (Reply #38)

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
40. Think I am going to start calling it "the first attack of the right wing War on America"
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:07 PM
May 2021

calimary

(90,130 posts)
45. Thing is - this kind of opponent can REALLY spur creativity! There's nothing like inspiration!
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:38 PM
May 2021

Positive, or in this case negative inspiration.

Positive - inspiration toward encouraging, promoting, and activating much-needed change for the better. Reinforcement of what works or benefits the greater good, not just a lucky/wealthy/well-connected few.

Negative - firing up activists who can MAKE that change. Removal of the bad or destructive element so the greater good can prevail and be strengthened, enhanced, and extended. Seeking or gaining justice upon the wrongdoers.

Sounds kinda like a yin/yang type of thing. One is about attracting, the other is about repelling. One is about embracing, the other is about defeating.

liberalla

(11,118 posts)
42. I like it! Short, concise, easy to remember and more importantly --- easy to understand.
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:12 PM
May 2021

For people who are new to the subject, or haven't been paying attention...

Easy to understand and grasp is very important.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
43. And it helps if it can fit on a bumper sticker.
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:27 PM
May 2021

Remember, my friends, we are dealing with a packed house for Short Attention-Span Theater! They need reminding (unless they're already kinda in on it and want the support and will appreciate your having their backs).

That's why repetition and lots of reminding are so valuable, and such effective tools for messaging - to anyone with whom you work, play, study, carpool, gossip, garden, Zoom, tinker, walk, shop, cook, work out, watch kids, go to church, live near, fill-in-the-verb-here, etc.

It's not ONLY the clever, quick-hit message.

It's also HOW it's delivered, AND how often, (like constantly, relentlessly, as often as possible!)

Who. Check.

Where. Check.

What. Check.

How. Check.

When. Check.

Why. Check.

All the various angles covered. All the key questions answered.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
48. I just realized another mechanical aspect, re: the all-important REPETITION.
Sun May 23, 2021, 07:15 PM
May 2021

"They don't want to get to the bottom of the insurrection because they already ARE at the bottom of the insurrection."

A key phrase repeats. "...the bottom of the insurrection." Double-punches it. Underlines it. Sets it apart so it stands out - it catches the eye more quickly and makes the impression first. And psychologists have said that first impressions are lasting. First impressions have the last word.

kimbutgar

(27,277 posts)
46. From now on every time a repuke goes on cable news they should be asked first about 1/6 and
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:57 PM
May 2021

If it was an attempted coup. Then if they agree Biden was a duly elected president. No further questions until they answer those first two questions.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
49. Yes. Just as we used to take a child's temperature if colds 'n' flu were going around,
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:17 PM
May 2021

this can be considered just "taking their temperature." Looking for some sort of version of "normal." Which we're not apt to find much of, over on that side of the aisle. But they have to face (and preferably pass) that test before we go any further with 'em.

And if they don't pass? Then you know EXACTLY what you're dealing with - and you already know it isn't good.

sheshe2

(97,681 posts)
56. Each one of them is guilty.
Sun May 23, 2021, 11:24 PM
May 2021

Each one played a part. Each one knows they will be called to testify. Each one should be sworn in as a hostile witness.

Thank you for your OP, calimary.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
60. Thank you for adding to it, sheshe2!
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:04 AM
May 2021

It’s a worthy point. Each one of them played an active, willing part.

Nobody held a gun to their heads and forced them to do so.

calimary

(90,130 posts)
61. And what do they think will happen after they've burned it all down
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:08 AM
May 2021

and forcibly instituted their own version of the “Handmaid’s Tale”?

Some sort of cockeyed reverse-Nirvana or something? A “cockeyed reverse-Nirvana - if you can keep it”?

Picaro

(2,398 posts)
64. I've been mulling over some language in terms of describing the current Republican party
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:00 AM
May 2021

The Republican party is now the Anti-Democracy party. They are now clearly anti-democracy and pro-authoritarian.

How to articulate that and make it stick?

For example, the anti-abortion movement knocked it out of the park with “pro-life” and “pro-abortion”. That language fundamentally changed the playing field.
Who is not pro-life? Who is actually pro-abortion?

So, how do we do the same thing to them? They are against everything hold most dear.

Any suggestions on how to weaponize the language we use to talk about these evil, corrupt, disloyal bastards?

calimary

(90,130 posts)
69. Welcome to DU, arkielib!
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:35 PM
May 2021

Thank you for weighing in, here.

I think some of the most important tools we have to fight with are talking points, sloganeering and messaging. And I think we have to get good at it, FAST!

We're dealing with Short Attention-Span Theater. That's the arena we have to fight in, every day. Dumbed down; don't like to read much; prefer to get their "news" from slick, splashy-packaged presentations with a lot of sparkle, pizazz, bright colors and bursts, special effects and animation, loud urgent musical punctuation, the booming, excitable (usually) male voiceover, logos and labeling and other visuals that attract the eye and hold it. And LOTS of red-white-and-blue - the bigger the better. Reagan used to appear in front of a backdrop that consisted of a HUGE American flag, in photos looking like it was 30-feet tall. And the cameras would be set up BELOW, so they were looking up at him. trump knows that trick. He knows ALL these tricks. Look at how trump Tower is all glitzed out - shiny, slick reflective surfaces, and lots of gold all over the place.

Remember: the eye is always drawn toward the "shiny object." Literally and figuratively. That's why everybody loves rainbows and 4th of July fireworks, diamonds are a girl's best friend, and "blondes have more fun." (No wonder trump has hit the yellow hair-dye probably on a daily basis.) Besides, research suggests that a majority of Americans process information visually.

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