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NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
Mon May 24, 2021, 06:36 AM May 2021

I can think of only one motive ...

... for Republicans to agree that the events of January 6th should not be fully investigated - and that motive is to cover up GOP complicity in the events that unfolded.

Change my mind. Offer some explanation - other than the bleedin' obvious - as to why the PTB in the GOP are determined to undermine any efforts to 'get to the bottom' of every who-what-where-why-and-how that underlies this case.

One can only wonder why our friends on the other side of the aisle are SO reluctant to investigate an unprecedented attack on our Capitol, and SO anxious to push the let's just move on because nothing really happened on January 6th other than a regular crowd of tourists meme.

If there is a Republican out there who has come up with a plausible reason for why his/her party is NOT fully on-board with every investigation into 1/6, I've yet to hear him/her speak up.

Sometimes the presumption of guilt is based merely on conjecture, assumptions, political bias, CYA tactics, and party-centric spin.

And sometimes guilt is obvious.

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I can think of only one motive ... (Original Post) NanceGreggs May 2021 OP
GOP wants to move on from Jan 6, but sure doesn't want to move on from the election bucolic_frolic May 2021 #1
The RepubliCONs DENVERPOPS May 2021 #2
Who are you calling friends. czarjak May 2021 #3
Perhaps they're from Bizarro World... Fyrefox May 2021 #4
Only one flaw in your argument, Nance. calimary May 2021 #5
It was republican treason. Never stop calling it that. The Jungle 1 May 2021 #6
You are quite correct. niyad May 2021 #7
I anxiously await The Wizard May 2021 #8
Aside from complicity, an objective investigation based on facts Martin Eden May 2021 #9
One big fly in the ointment of our political culture... 2naSalit May 2021 #10
+1... bahboo May 2021 #21
I have a great reverance for facts and truth. This, "one person's truth is different from another's Dark n Stormy Knight May 2021 #35
The Party of BENGHAZI doesn't want us to investigate the insurrection? keithbvadu2 May 2021 #11
+1 Arkansas Granny May 2021 #18
K & R...nt Wounded Bear May 2021 #12
The motive is pandering to Trump and Trump voters. hay rick May 2021 #13
Well, there is one other reason Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #14
Also, he is controlling the money flow.. kentuck May 2021 #15
And the joke is on them Mr.Bill May 2021 #26
Occam's razor. Pepsidog May 2021 #16
The cloth of corruption does not contain just one thread... MiHale May 2021 #17
"Move on, nothing to see here". That's all they've got. nt oasis May 2021 #19
We have one party for Democracy and one party for Autocracy YoshidaYui May 2021 #20
They are actively planning on doing it again, but succeeding next time. lark May 2021 #22
Who would NOT want to discuss/explore why the events of 1/6/21 happened and what participated the SWBTATTReg May 2021 #23
I think Rubio nailed it down when he said an investigation will make Republicans look bad. Midnight Writer May 2021 #24
It's like the mob complaining that police investigations would "unfairly" make them look bad. n/t Beartracks May 2021 #28
The GOP know that the former guy tried to overthrow our government LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #25
Everyone *knows* Trump & Co. is guilty, but GOP wants to keep it from being *officially* proven... Beartracks May 2021 #27
I'm waiting for a Repug to claim that they're simply being fiscally responsible. 11 Bravo May 2021 #29
Because they know that this time, they won't be the judge and jury. world wide wally May 2021 #30
The Greedy Old Coverup Party rickyhall May 2021 #31
I'm not sure how deep, or how high this complicity runs, and of course we need the investigation BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #32
Definitely complicit vapor2 May 2021 #33
Kick dalton99a May 2021 #34

bucolic_frolic

(43,364 posts)
1. GOP wants to move on from Jan 6, but sure doesn't want to move on from the election
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:05 AM
May 2021

This was an insurrection of thuggery aimed directly at the institutions of power in a classic coup attempt that would make Bolsheviks proud of the tactics used: storming the Winter Palace, lies and proclamations, reassuring the opposition with lies while working to eject them from power. Make no mistake, an insurrection's goal is grabbing power for themselves that they have toppled so they can install themselves as the new elite rulers. And yes, communism was ruled by elites just like every other society.

DENVERPOPS

(8,862 posts)
2. The RepubliCONs
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:36 AM
May 2021

May be through with their history, but their history sure as hell isn't through with them.....

Fyrefox

(300 posts)
4. Perhaps they're from Bizarro World...
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:53 AM
May 2021

They’re more than from the other side of the aisle.. They’re from another world entirely, and a separate reality...

calimary

(81,527 posts)
5. Only one flaw in your argument, Nance.
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:00 AM
May 2021

Calling them “our friends on the other side of the aisle” is not accurate. They’re NOT our “friends.” Never were. And never will be.

The Wizard

(12,552 posts)
8. I anxiously await
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:13 AM
May 2021

the identity of the cult members who gave tours of the Capitol to Trump's terrorist jihad that assaulted democracy at Trump's (really Putin's) direction. Democrats must act quickly or risk losing The House next year. Joe Manchin should not be a road block to progress and justice. Let's hope Joe will see the light and not allow democracy, albeit twisted by the Electoral College, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the filibuster, to cave in to Putin's wet dream.

Martin Eden

(12,880 posts)
9. Aside from complicity, an objective investigation based on facts
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:37 AM
May 2021

Will further expose the Big Lie as a BIG LIE and place the blame squarely on Dear Leader along with others in the GQP who instigated the insurrection .

They have hitched their party's wagon to Criminal 45, and a thorough uncovering of the contents could knock the wheels off that cart.

2naSalit

(86,843 posts)
10. One big fly in the ointment of our political culture...
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:48 AM
May 2021

Is the reliance on what you can make others believe rather than reliance on factual truth. You see it in this case, the reason for the big lie, is to convince enough people to believe an untruth which for them then becomes truth, sans facts. So one thing that should accompany this process is the understanding that this is what our system has called for because it has been defined by those who rely on belief. We need to redefine how we go forward and that will require an unwavering reliance on factual truth, nothing else will succeed.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
35. I have a great reverance for facts and truth. This, "one person's truth is different from another's
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:45 AM
May 2021

is a concept I can accept only on a very limited basis. Opinions should be limited to things like what's the best flavor ice cream or best-looking car. "Was the election stolen," is a question that should not be asked as if there is still room for doubt.

However, we also have to remember that people are swayed by stories. Most people base their beliefs on fiction, far more than fact. Propaganda is a bunch of stories presented to the masses in a way that most do not judge them logically. Republicans know this and shamelessly exploit it.

Democrats and their supporters with the talent and financial support to do so need to inundate this public with powerful, moving stories, based on facts, that convince people that what the Republicans have been doing is wrong and downright Anti-American.

They need to be made to feel for people who are truly being oppressed, not the damn snowflake Rs who feel they're being persecuted because someone occasionally says, "Happy Holidays" to them.

They need to be shown that it is the opposite of patriotic to support a belligerently ignorant dictator-wanna-be who could not pass a basic citizenship test if his life depended on it.

They need to be convinced that what happened on Jan 6 was a huge and serious crime, an insurrection against the United States of American incited by DJT & other Rs.

And, of course, GOTV. But that becomes much easier when people really feel they're fighting for something that matters deeply. And saving our democracy from ruin by the Rs needs to be that something.

keithbvadu2

(36,962 posts)
11. The Party of BENGHAZI doesn't want us to investigate the insurrection?
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:58 AM
May 2021

Last edited Mon May 24, 2021, 09:35 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215451497

The Party of BENGHAZI doesn't want us to investigate the insurrection? Is this real life?

Why would the republicans not want an investigation?

Who was in the Jan 06 insurrection/riot smearing poop on the walls of Congress, attacking police, seeking Mike Pence for execution, and vandalizing the Capitol Bldg?

The ONLY proof you need that Antifa had nothing to do with January 6th is the Republicans' refusal to form a commission to investigate it.


hay rick

(7,648 posts)
13. The motive is pandering to Trump and Trump voters.
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:06 AM
May 2021

The probability of uncovering active complicity among colleagues is just the cherry on a shit sundae for the many Republicans who engaged in the passive complicity of regurgitating Trump's lies.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
14. Well, there is one other reason
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:09 AM
May 2021

If the Democrats say the sky is blue, repuqs will insist that it is green. It's who they are. If the Democratic party is FOR something, they will be against is. Period.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
15. Also, he is controlling the money flow..
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:11 AM
May 2021

...Republicans are donating to him rather than to the RNC or GOP or individual candidates. He gives out their allowances if they are loyal to him?

MiHale

(9,788 posts)
17. The cloth of corruption does not contain just one thread...
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:20 AM
May 2021

Republicans know that when the threads of this insurrection are pulled apart not only treason will be unraveled but deeper hidden crimes will surface. These revelations may have the possibility of destroying the party.

One reason is hardly ever to blame in any situation, are they guilty, of course, but it may have not much to do with the actual events of that day. Uncovering people’s motivation for covering up one crime may lead to another crime not quite connected with the one being investigated.

Could even be a case of “teenage”... you tell on me, I’ll tell on you worse. There is so much corruption on that side of the aisle they’re running scared.

YoshidaYui

(41,867 posts)
20. We have one party for Democracy and one party for Autocracy
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:30 AM
May 2021

And they no longer give a shit about Democracy, they want a strong man dictator... MTG is now the face of this party.

lark

(23,166 posts)
22. They are actively planning on doing it again, but succeeding next time.
Mon May 24, 2021, 11:26 AM
May 2021

They aren't going to give away the seditionist treason game they are currently employed in implementing.

SWBTATTReg

(22,176 posts)
23. Who would NOT want to discuss/explore why the events of 1/6/21 happened and what participated the
Mon May 24, 2021, 12:33 PM
May 2021

events that followed?

I would want such an event to not ever happen again so I would want answers and beefing up of the security too, of the place, let alone splitting off the policing responsibilities away from the Exec. branch too, since trump ignored all calls for help, restraint, etc. AND the military was reluctant to participate too in the events. Beef up Washington DC policing. Have all fifty states and territories send perhaps 5-10 officers to participate in a joint policing effort in Washington D.C.

The only logical reason why repugs don't want to participate is their NO NO NO mentality (at the behest of djt), or they know that they are guilty (in any event, everybody's seen the numerous video clips, etc. all pointing to a trump rally that many reps were part of, who then said go to the Capital at the end of the rally while djt was standing in front of the WH. djt was the instigator of this whole event.

Midnight Writer

(21,819 posts)
24. I think Rubio nailed it down when he said an investigation will make Republicans look bad.
Mon May 24, 2021, 12:36 PM
May 2021

It seems to be a pure political calculation, and has nothing to do with the good of our Nation.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,667 posts)
25. The GOP know that the former guy tried to overthrow our government
Mon May 24, 2021, 12:38 PM
May 2021

There are members of the GOP delegation who helped and the GOP leadership want to protect these traitors

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
27. Everyone *knows* Trump & Co. is guilty, but GOP wants to keep it from being *officially* proven...
Mon May 24, 2021, 01:56 PM
May 2021

... so that they can therefore continue to *pretend* that he (and they) aren't guilty as sin.

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11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
29. I'm waiting for a Repug to claim that they're simply being fiscally responsible.
Mon May 24, 2021, 02:50 PM
May 2021

After all, due to endless BENGHAZI! (tm RNC 2014) investigations, there's no money left for any more congressional investigative committees.

world wide wally

(21,757 posts)
30. Because they know that this time, they won't be the judge and jury.
Mon May 24, 2021, 03:22 PM
May 2021

Objectivity is the one thing they will not stand for when it comes to their fearless leader.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
32. I'm not sure how deep, or how high this complicity runs, and of course we need the investigation
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:35 PM
May 2021

to know for sure.

But what other reason could there POSSIBLY be?

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