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edhopper

(33,580 posts)
Mon May 24, 2021, 06:00 PM May 2021

Pentagon's UFO footage -- and Obama's curiosity -- ratchet up expectations for a big reveal

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/pentagon-s-ufo-footage-obama-s-curiosity-ratchet-expectations-big-ncna1268222

So-called government disclosure is now the great white hope for UFO enthusiasts who feel like this subject has been unfairly derided.


Putting this up as an FYI. I am personally not interested in debating. But don't want to discourage discussion.
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Pentagon's UFO footage -- and Obama's curiosity -- ratchet up expectations for a big reveal (Original Post) edhopper May 2021 OP
The Great White Hope Disaffected May 2021 #1
This has nothing H2O Man May 2021 #30
Ah but, Disaffected May 2021 #32
He claimed to have H2O Man May 2021 #34
Hope it's not like a fucked up gender reveal jpak May 2021 #2
Only if the Aliens edhopper May 2021 #3
I for one welcome our new UFO Fuzzy Footage Overlords Champp May 2021 #4
Apple should advertize their next iPhone edhopper May 2021 #5
This. Politicub May 2021 #6
😂😂😂 One of the BEST Memes on this subject! electric_blue68 May 2021 #7
I'm totally on board with my own snark, but Champp May 2021 #17
Same here...only... Duppers May 2021 #24
I've been putting up with crap since I arrived from Zeta Reticula. padfun May 2021 #8
"Reveal" by whom? Effete Snob May 2021 #9
The article edhopper May 2021 #11
But no one else has figured this out? Effete Snob May 2021 #12
There seems to be a pattern Aldemelod May 2021 #10
+1 Effete Snob May 2021 #13
+1 leftstreet May 2021 #31
I tend to share your skepticism. TomSlick May 2021 #38
Gotta hand to ETs who frogmarch May 2021 #14
An intelligent and/or reasonable person/entity would want to know what is flying in the skies, SWBTATTReg May 2021 #15
They problem with your edhopper May 2021 #16
You said yourself that you put this up for discussion. I discussed. You're not discussing but SWBTATTReg May 2021 #21
You got me there. edhopper May 2021 #25
Here's a JPL Scientist's take on it. padfun May 2021 #18
She is just explaining edhopper May 2021 #19
There actually is quite a bit of data padfun May 2021 #20
Some people claim that they have open minds, but they really don't. I do believe like you, that ... SWBTATTReg May 2021 #22
Do you have an engineering, or scientific background... electric_blue68 May 2021 #23
I have a degree in Computer Science padfun May 2021 #37
I managed to make it till 3:34 Disaffected May 2021 #35
I believe the pilots. nt RandiFan1290 May 2021 #26
No one is saying they are lying edhopper May 2021 #27
Perhaps they are coming from an advanced underwater society Polybius May 2021 #28
Or that these sightings edhopper May 2021 #29
Yup, that too Polybius May 2021 #33
Our corporate desire to stay on oil... LiberatedUSA May 2021 #36
The big reveal will be...the Government has records of sightings that are unidentified... brooklynite May 2021 #39

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
30. This has nothing
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:03 PM
May 2021

to do with Jim Jefferies. He never claimed to have found "crop circles" on his alfalfa farm.

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
34. He claimed to have
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:56 PM
May 2021

a chance of regaining the title, but Jack Johnson thought otherwise. But in 1910, Rep. James Robert Mann proposed the infamous Mann Act, specific to his dislike of Johnson's personal life. And now, Matt Gaetz is looking to Mann Act up. This neither proves nor disproves that Jefferies was an alien. But it provides giggles unto those who are enjoying Matt's misfortunes.

I hearby and therefore propose that all DUers of conscience send the link to this song to Gaetz's office:

electric_blue68

(14,906 posts)
7. 😂😂😂 One of the BEST Memes on this subject!
Mon May 24, 2021, 06:42 PM
May 2021

Last edited Tue May 25, 2021, 03:15 AM - Edit history (1)

Actually one of the best memes ever!! 😂

Champp

(2,114 posts)
17. I'm totally on board with my own snark, but
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:47 PM
May 2021

I have definitely seen a huge, mollyhonking silent triangular craft floating smoothly and swiftly over a certain Midwest city about 10 years ago. Others saw it, too.

It was a UFO.
Unidentified (by me or others).
Flying (as never before seen).
Object (massive).
Ergo, UFO.

For me it's not a matter of "believing" in strange, unknown aircraft,
it's a matter of having "experienced" strange, unknown aircraft.

Duppers

(28,124 posts)
24. Same here...only...
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:28 AM
May 2021

A southern city, decades ago, massive oval shape, nighttime, seen by 100's, & reported in city paper. Yet, folks who weren't there, called it b.s.

It's one of those you must-see-to-believe things.

See this thread? https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215458504

Some contentious ppl there.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
9. "Reveal" by whom?
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:03 PM
May 2021

Have the aliens been unable to reveal themselves to the public?

Who exactly is it that has this power over them?

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
11. The article
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:21 PM
May 2021

is saying the big reveal is they were not alien spaceships, but something with earthbound explanations.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
12. But no one else has figured this out?
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:25 PM
May 2021

This is an earthly phenomenon which only certain Americans have been able to figure out?

Aldemelod

(29 posts)
10. There seems to be a pattern
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:15 PM
May 2021

. . . of interest in UFOs and aliens rising during times of social alarm and stress, such as Orson Wells' War of the Worlds broadcast on the eve of WWII, the Roswell incident when tensions with the Soviet Union were ratcheting up, and now the Senate report while the world is being wrenched by autocratic thuggism, accelerating climate change, and the rapid rise of AI and deep learning. Still looking for extraordinary evidence to support extraordinary claims.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
13. +1
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:26 PM
May 2021

People just dismiss unexplained psychosocial phenomena out of hand, because their minds are not open to the possibilities.

They need to follow the herd and attribute anything they don’t understand to gods or aliens.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
14. Gotta hand to ETs who
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:34 PM
May 2021

might be visiting Earth - what with all that space junk orbiting our planet. Risky business!

Maybe a good way to find where ETs come from is to look for planets surrounded by millions of pieces of space junk.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
15. An intelligent and/or reasonable person/entity would want to know what is flying in the skies,
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:35 PM
May 2021

besides our civilian and military aircraft also, IMHO, and continuing this discussion, one doesn't want to run into these craft and crash, possibly killing others.

Who knows what will be released by the Pentagon...personally, I'm not expecting much with the release of anything concrete, being that this topic has always been highly sensitive for some reason to those in government and the military. Why? What further gets me is that they continued to investigate this even after they claimed to shut down Project Blue Book and other investigative avenues. Again, Why?

Are there/Is there still significant sightings still occurring that can't be explained? I strongly suspect so. I suspect that while some of the sightings are indeed new aircraft being tested or flown for other reasons, by US and/or other national entities (which is why the US Govt is so secretive, a good reason), there are some sightings not so easily explained that so many have seen. Reputable sightings by highly qualified persons who have spotted the craft, radar and thermal imagery have also caught such craft in their sights. Many witnesses have eyeballed the craft up close and personal.

The technologies displayed by such craft leaves our craft basically crawling in the mud. Makes sense, after all, the human race just entered into the flying arena starting in 1903 w/ the Wright Brothers, so we're babes in the woods basically with this type of technology, babes in the woods w/ computer technologies, babes in the woods with a lot of new technologies being engineered w/ the advent of new and far more computing power.

And if there are entities / non-worldly or otherwise (our Oceans are 70% of the earth's surface, and we've barely explored the depths thus far), then as a civilization engaging in space more and more, we must be prepared, be at least more knowledgeable in any hope of dealing w/ such things. Be prepared is a motto that the Boy Scouts and many advocate. It doesn't hurt to know more about the environment in which we fly in, swim in, or circle the earth in. Just smart.

And more than likely, some sort of non-interference methodology is involved, I would hope if anything. Don't interfere w/ existing cultures, otherwise a repeat of the cultures destroyed will occur when Columbus and others found North and South America, and the American Indians and the Incas were pretty well wiped out, not just by brutal conquest but by disease too. Advanced technologies in the wrong hands would do the same thing, potentially wiping out or harming others.

I suspect that there is some sort of policy embraced by the powers that be to simply ridicule those that report the sightings, despite the negative stigma.

The powers that be say that people would freak out knowing such things, I hope not, I'd like to think that the Human Race is, after being in space for a little time (since the 1960s) is ready, but I don't know...knowing how some of these djt people act and behave in times like today, how they feel and act so negatively about 'science' and other similar topics, I suspect not.

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
16. They problem with your
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:29 PM
May 2021

Suppositions and conspiracy theories is they all presume that these are crafts with unheard of and unearthly capabilities and not mistaken accounts by the witnesses.
And there is little evidence that it is one or the other.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
21. You said yourself that you put this up for discussion. I discussed. You're not discussing but
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:26 AM
May 2021

in fact, shooting every discussion down...here's your own words...

"Putting this up as an FYI. I am personally not interested in debating. But don't want to discourage discussion."

Funny since this is the 3rd article on UFOs/etc. that I noticed from you over the last several days...most of which have your negative
comments/remarks that actually discouraged any further discussions in my opinion, as opposed to your so called your desire to not discourage discussion. Seems very contrary.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
18. Here's a JPL Scientist's take on it.
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:55 PM
May 2021

She's a Senior Member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers



edhopper

(33,580 posts)
19. She is just explaining
Mon May 24, 2021, 11:01 PM
May 2021

3rd dimensional observation of 4th dimensional phenomena. Nothing George Gamov didn't do 60 years ago.
She has no evidence this is what these videos are.
She is speculating without data.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
20. There actually is quite a bit of data
Mon May 24, 2021, 11:07 PM
May 2021

but if you just ignore it, then you don't see it.

Same thing applies to recounts.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
22. Some people claim that they have open minds, but they really don't. I do believe like you, that ...
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:32 AM
May 2021

there is amply evidence, not all which is known to the public, that may prove that there is more to this phenomenon that meets the eye. You can't deny what highly skilled pilots, other trained observers, and numerous witnesses have saw, you can't mock away what they saw as swamp gas, or some other idiotic excuses that some use to sidestep this very real phenomenon (IMHO). Take care!

electric_blue68

(14,906 posts)
23. Do you have an engineering, or scientific background...
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:49 AM
May 2021

academically at least, if not persuded (for any number of legitimate reasons)? I haven't run into enough of your posts to know.
She's got some alone, being from JPL.
and

I haven't viewed this yet (just saw, and waay too late).

All this may have at least three explainations -
• advanced aircraft by someone(s) here on Earth
• psycho-social phenomenon (though UFO/UAPs have always been seen for a long time just seemingly more so in extra stressful times)
• the real deal (I've heard a lot in years past, a there's some that are pretty damn 'woah'!)

Maybe - all three apply in different proportions.

I find the Deep Ocean one the least probable, but then again such an civillization advanced enough to survive those imnense oceanic pressures could be advanced each to hide themselves.

I mostly hope I'll be alive, cogent, and active to hear The Announcement when ever (if) it happens - if it's true.


padfun

(1,786 posts)
37. I have a degree in Computer Science
Tue May 25, 2021, 07:31 PM
May 2021

And quite a few credits in physics and Mathematics but never declared a minor. And as far as I know, I can't go back to take a few courses for a minor.

I am retired now but might go back for a Masters just for the hell of it. If I do, it will be in Mathematics because that has always been my love.

Disaffected

(4,555 posts)
35. I managed to make it till 3:34
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:57 PM
May 2021

but that was it. She needs to get a different hobby if she thinks that video is credible evidence of anything important.

And up until then it was mainly handwaving (literally too).

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
28. Perhaps they are coming from an advanced underwater society
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:45 PM
May 2021

In many cases, they are seen diving into the ocean. This theory might make more sense than them coming from outer space. Maybe wormholes and exceeding the speed of light truly are impossible.

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
33. Yup, that too
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:52 PM
May 2021

Maybe they are advanced aircraft we're working on that regular pilots don't know about yet.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
36. Our corporate desire to stay on oil...
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:03 PM
May 2021

...has caused us to lose decades of progress. At the very least, some of those objects are likely very very advanced creations of ours that will never see the light of day (or anytime soon at least), as being made mainstream would make the energy business not near as profitable as it has been and completely turn around how we as a society live.

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