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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOver half of Republicans believe Donald Trump is the actual President of the United States
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news_and_polls/over-half-republicans-believe-donald-trump-actual-president-united-states
I remember when Republicans used to claim to be the 'realists', the party that acted and reacted to the world as it was, were the practical thinkers, non emotional and steadyhanded compared to the 'soft' . and emotional Democrats, the party of 'feels not reals' , idealistic dreamers that were going to run the country to ruin chasing unicorns and rainbows versus their supposed fiscal responsibility.
But this appears to be another principle of the party tossed aside now that it is no longer useful, in part for Trump to cater to his seemingly delusional and obsessive need to 'win' and dodge any hint of so called weakness, but even before him the clinging to lies and proven failures like 'trickle down' economics and supposedly rampant voter fraud which is now embraced even more fervently in the pursuit of power...
brewens
(15,359 posts)to play the former guys followers.
FreepFryer
(7,086 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,590 posts)So true.
gab13by13
(31,955 posts)Christ could come down to earth and say that MF45 lost the election and the GQP sheep would believe Hannity.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Ignorance is bliss?
RepubliQons have total control of 23 states and state legislatures are rigging it to take total control of three more states. But you don't care what they think.
RepubliQons are gerrymandering to try to take back the House in 2022 to impeach Biden in 2023 and 2024. He doesn't need that headache, so he cares what they think.
RepubliQons are taking voting rights away from Democrats and people of colour, because of what RepubliQons think. Very restrictive bills have passed and been signed into law because of what they think.
The people you dismiss are taking fair elections away from you because of what they think.
Yes, you could give a shit.
NCDem47
(3,414 posts)"RepubliQons have total control of 23 states and state legislatures are rigging it to take total control of three more states."
Republicans are playing a long game that's about to pay dividends for decades. Total minority rule. Blue metro areas in red states will be crushed with overriding state rules and laws meant to supress at scary and undemocratic levels. And don't even get me started on gerrymandering. Sick. To. My. Stomach.
Soooo many people out there (Dems and Rs) with apathy about it all, shrugging off the whole thing as "its poltics. What difference can I make?"
wnylib
(25,694 posts)It gives them support for voting changes to suppress the vote under the excuse of makibg voting more "reliable."
Jay25
(437 posts)lisa58
(5,809 posts)Wasnt it over 70% last month? Just my opinion, but believe the Maricopa audit is helping reveal the crazies
Bullfeathers
(108 posts)believe the election was stolen not that he is president. I naively thought this thinking would be behind us by now but what do I know
Lovie777
(22,723 posts)they don't have a cool 80% of their dwindling cult, that is why they are enacting sweeping voter suppression laws and uptick on gerrymandering.
bucolic_frolic
(54,812 posts)Facts don't matter. If we replay it in our heads long enough it will change.
Best outcome? They take to drink. Or maybe we should take them out for a drink to jumpstart their rehab. The more the merrier.
denbot
(9,949 posts)They dont care, and dont want a free and open society.
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2naSalit
(102,049 posts)Hemorrhaging members for a while now so this set of "republicans" is now only a fraction of what it was so that is half of what's left of the party.
Ace Rothstein
(3,373 posts)We need to stop downplaying this kind of stuff.
2naSalit
(102,049 posts)Until well after the election.
Just sayin'
spanone
(141,354 posts)Kaleva
(40,320 posts)marble falls
(71,636 posts)DFW
(60,050 posts)These are the people who think the film "Independence Day" was a documentary.
LudwigPastorius
(14,572 posts)they'd have to be watered twice a week.
LetMyPeopleVote
(178,585 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,982 posts)Reconciliation or compromise is IMPOSSIBLE with BatShitCrazedLoons - the sooner everyone realizes that the better.
global1
(26,507 posts)63% of them want him to run for president again in 2024? What am I missing?
flying_wahini
(8,268 posts)About the validity of the election if it would make any difference?
I mean they DID hear the arguments.
Or Rudy and Other ones from his top echelon said publicly as a contrition?
Johnny2X2X
(24,046 posts)This is bad for Democracy, that 25% of the country no longer believes in our elections.
Republicans are gambling that they can make their sole platform plank out of this distrust of the elections. They think it's a winner or they wouldn't be doing it. However, I think Dems can find a way to make them pay for this by depressing their votes. Dems need to use this, "it's a rigged system" so why should Reps vote?
I know Dems wouldn't do this, but an army of internet trolls invading all of the Conservative message boards and social media with one simple message would be incredibly effective. The message, "I'm not voting and neither should you, because it's all a rigged system." You could depress Republican turnout significantly with just a 100 person or so troll farm working for the next 18 months. It would be immoral and unethical, but it would be deadly effective.
RVN VET71
(3,183 posts)This does not make the poll invalid. But Im curious as to the total Republican population the poll assumes. Is the polls 53% based on 20,000,000 Republicans? On 75,000,000?
Does anyone know?
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(178,585 posts)WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)To be a Republican voter today, one has to either be fraudulently and criminally inclined or be so fucking stupid that they don't have the mental capacity to decide anything important that would effect others as well. Republicans are only the hyenas and jackals of the human race that will gleefully rip apart the American People and country to satisfy their blood lust for money and power.
ProfessorGAC
(76,495 posts)22% of I's think he's the real president.
I just don't trust this poll.
It doesn't square with the 59-63% approval ratings for Biden.
Let's assume the % of Rs disapproving is in the 90s. We're already at 22% disapproval.
To only lose another 16%, you'd need 38% of I's disapproving. This suggests that if all the Indies that believe T***p is actually POTUS disapprove, the approval among indies is far in excess of the country as a whole.
That doesn't make sense to me.
Given that, I doubt the veracity of the entire poll.
Rhiannon12866
(254,097 posts)He sure never behaved like any POTUS I remembered - not to mention that he got fewer votes!
spanone
(141,354 posts)It only illustrates how fucked up they are.