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marmar

(79,739 posts)
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:11 AM May 2021

Southwest Airlines flight attendant loses two teeth after passenger assault......


Southwest Airlines flight attendant loses two teeth after passenger assault; inflight incidents at 'intolerable level,' union says


A Southwest Airlines flight attendant was assaulted by a passenger over the weekend and lost two teeth, according to a letter the flight attendants union sent to the airline's CEO Monday in an appeal for more safeguards as travel rebounds.

"This past weekend, one of our flight attendants was seriously assaulted, resulting in injuries to the face and a loss of two teeth,'' Lyn Montgomery, president of TWU Local 556 said in the letter. "Unfortunately, this is just one of many occurrences. I

write to you today because we cannot tolerate our beloved cohearts (being abused in such a manner, and because I am asking for your help and leadership in ending these travesties.''

The union said there were 477 passenger misconduct incidents on Southwest between April 8 and May 15. ..............(more)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2021/05/25/southwest-airlines-flight-attendant-loses-two-teeth-passenger-assault/7425193002/?



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Southwest Airlines flight attendant loses two teeth after passenger assault...... (Original Post) marmar May 2021 OP
Put all Trump voters on the No-Fly List. lagomorph777 May 2021 #1
+1 2naSalit May 2021 #2
Your seeming hyperbole is actually just fact. dchill May 2021 #4
+1 dalton99a May 2021 #7
+1, uponit7771 May 2021 #9
Ive seen a lot of these videos, and the majority of these violent flyers do not appear to be Treefrog May 2021 #17
What do they appear to be to you? Maraya1969 May 2021 #22
Feel free to google any of these airline or airport incidents and let me know. Treefrog May 2021 #37
You said they didn't look like "Trumpers" then changed it to Maru Kitteh May 2021 #42
What does a Trumper look like to you? yardwork May 2021 #25
What do they look like to you? Treefrog May 2021 #36
no. that is a fallacy. stopdiggin May 2021 #47
well attendants themselves are claiming stopdiggin May 2021 #31
Many people who refuse to wear masks are not necessarily trumpers. Treefrog May 2021 #38
no, I'd agree with that assesment stopdiggin May 2021 #46
Please feel free to back up your mouth with data. Maru Kitteh May 2021 #48
No mask? Fine, you don't fly ever again. kirkuchiyo May 2021 #3
Any verbal threats and/or physical confrontation by a passenger should earn a lifetime ban Siwsan May 2021 #5
Agreed, confused as to why this isn't happening already. Devil Child May 2021 #10
I can see a year for 1st issue, then lifetime after that. Nt USALiberal May 2021 #11
Not to mention, you know, PRISON dawg day May 2021 #14
The article keeps talking about "fines" dawg day May 2021 #15
I love that idea. mahina May 2021 #16
Agree bdamomma May 2021 #49
Fast-track these chucklefucks onto the no-fly list Devil Child May 2021 #6
Who would want a job dealing with the public these days? Diamond_Dog May 2021 #8
Plantation owners probably complained in the past... Buckeye_Democrat May 2021 #12
The way they see it ... lpbk2713 May 2021 #13
How about the fines AND a lifetime ban on air travel? BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #18
That'll make for a good civil suit bucolic_frolic May 2021 #19
The article just describes the assaulter as a passenger. Lonestarblue May 2021 #20
She was named further down in an updated version of the article.... marmar May 2021 #39
Treat such events as terrorist attacks and use all the means available to the government Johonny May 2021 #21
Is it worse on Southwest than on other airlines? cab67 May 2021 #23
What's a coheart? emily333 May 2021 #24
LOL I noticed that, too. geardaddy May 2021 #27
I think the word meant was "cohort" MineralMan May 2021 #28
Nope. Texasgal May 2021 #41
It;s a Southwest Airline thing.. Texasgal May 2021 #40
It's a bit of a misappropriation because Love Field Ilsa May 2021 #52
Perhaps.. Texasgal May 2021 #53
I always enjoyed Friday evening flights on SWA. Ilsa May 2021 #58
That was felony assault and battery with bodily harm. MineralMan May 2021 #26
TSA can take a break from profiling brown people IronLionZion May 2021 #29
which sometimes are POC Skittles May 2021 #43
And sometimes are white. So color is the worst way to profile people for violence. IronLionZion May 2021 #50
and overwhelmingly male Skittles May 2021 #54
The OP is about a woman perp IronLionZion May 2021 #55
The loss of two teeth wasn't just from a slap in the face. lpbk2713 May 2021 #30
The attacker was a 28 year older woman madville May 2021 #44
Thank you. lpbk2713 May 2021 #56
The airlines need to take a tough stance to protect their employees RainCaster May 2021 #32
I have a flight back east booked for next friday. I hope it is an asshole free flight. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #33
And this occurred upon LANDING. Pinback May 2021 #34
Play by the rules or STFU. Initech May 2021 #35
5 minutes google time irisblue May 2021 #45
Video of the perp ornotna May 2021 #51
k&r question everything May 2021 #57
 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
17. Ive seen a lot of these videos, and the majority of these violent flyers do not appear to be
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:26 PM
May 2021

Trumpers, certainly don’t fit the profile anyway.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
37. Feel free to google any of these airline or airport incidents and let me know.
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:36 PM
May 2021

I don’t know their political views but they sure don’t look like the Jan 6 insurrectionists.

Maru Kitteh

(31,761 posts)
42. You said they didn't look like "Trumpers" then changed it to
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:57 PM
May 2021

Jan. 6 insurrectionists.

Are you under the impression that the sudden onslaught of assholes assaulting airline stewards over mask mandates are apolitical? Biden supporters? Bernie folk? What?


stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
47. no. that is a fallacy.
Tue May 25, 2021, 10:16 PM
May 2021

People of color, college students, buttoned down execs and lawyers. Soccer moms, blue haired grannies .. college profs, cowboys, athletes, punks and artists -- they all voted for Trump. And, no, you can not pick them out of a line-up.

If you're going to argue -- at least argue intelligently.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
31. well attendants themselves are claiming
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:41 PM
May 2021

that 90% of this is anti-masking. Does that accord better with your observations?

(I do think there are a certain portion of these 'incidents' that are just plain mental breakdowns - travel is stressful stuff, and some people are just not well equipped. But we've also become accustomed, and too accepting?, of plain old boorish, entitled and bad behavior. And, in either case, flight crew should not have to put up with your sh*t!)

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
38. Many people who refuse to wear masks are not necessarily trumpers.
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:37 PM
May 2021

Please feel ree to do your own research.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
46. no, I'd agree with that assesment
Tue May 25, 2021, 10:06 PM
May 2021

I also believe that there are probably a certain number of Q-Anon adherents -- that are not Trump voters. But I also believe that the overlap between those populations is reasonably significant. You would agree?

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
5. Any verbal threats and/or physical confrontation by a passenger should earn a lifetime ban
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:33 AM
May 2021

Against anybody - flight crew or another passenger - and I mean banned from ALL airlines.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
10. Agreed, confused as to why this isn't happening already.
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:03 PM
May 2021

Or if it is, make it easier for offenders to be placed on the no-fly list.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
14. Not to mention, you know, PRISON
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:18 PM
May 2021

Assaulting a crew member near take off or in flight endangers everyone on the plane.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
15. The article keeps talking about "fines"
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:21 PM
May 2021

Assault is a CRIME. An assault resulting in injury should land this person in jail.

And then on a permanent no-fly list.

mahina

(20,645 posts)
16. I love that idea.
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:25 PM
May 2021

They can’t drive here. We need less of that person.

The poor flight attendant, Jesus.

Diamond_Dog

(40,578 posts)
8. Who would want a job dealing with the public these days?
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:54 AM
May 2021

Any wealthy republicans complaining that “people don’t want to work” should try working at a job dealing with these angry wingnuts some time.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
12. Plantation owners probably complained in the past...
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:12 PM
May 2021

... about their struggles to find overseers.

"Check the towns for more drunken vagrants!"

lpbk2713

(43,273 posts)
13. The way they see it ...
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:12 PM
May 2021


Anyone of the servile, non-privileged class should take their abuse and like it.
Especially food service workers.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
20. The article just describes the assaulter as a passenger.
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:08 PM
May 2021

His name should be released to the public because he most likely has assaulted others but gotten away with it. The public deserves a warning about him, and perhaps his coworkers would like to know that he has anger management issues and could assault one of them.

marmar

(79,739 posts)
39. She was named further down in an updated version of the article....
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:08 PM
May 2021

"The Port of San Diego Harbor Police Department late Tuesday identified the passenger as 28-year-old Vyvianna Quinonez and said she was charged with battery causing serious bodily injury, a felony."

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
21. Treat such events as terrorist attacks and use all the means available to the government
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:12 PM
May 2021

to prosecute them as such.

cab67

(3,749 posts)
23. Is it worse on Southwest than on other airlines?
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:16 PM
May 2021

One gets that impression from the article, but it isn't clear.

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
40. It;s a Southwest Airline thing..
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:51 PM
May 2021

There main hub is called LOVE field and they have a heart in their logo.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
52. It's a bit of a misappropriation because Love Field
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:34 PM
May 2021

was named for Army Lieutenant Moss Lee Love, who perished during flight training for WW1.

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
53. Perhaps..
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:39 PM
May 2021

But their whole corporate culture is about the "love" angle.

I only know this because my Aunt has been a flight attendant for SWA for 30 years.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
58. I always enjoyed Friday evening flights on SWA.
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:26 AM
May 2021

Everyone seemed more relaxed.
At times I felt like a cow among bulls trying to get a preferred seat, but I didn't mind sitting next to anyone:
A young marine who sat with a straight back almost not touching the seat back, staring straight ahead;
Families with crying babies - really, I was ok, because I knew it could someday be me;

A really fond memory of handing out drink coupons to people around me, but only if they were sober.

My flights were almost never very long, usually about 1.5 hours.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
26. That was felony assault and battery with bodily harm.
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:21 PM
May 2021

A fine is not adequate. Not in any way. Getting two teeth knocked out is traumatic injury with serious pain and dental costs.

It's a misdemeanor offense. It is a felony. Prison time.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
29. TSA can take a break from profiling brown people
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:27 PM
May 2021

and start profiling those who show signs of violence, under the influence of alcohol/drugs, won't comply with basic rules, etc.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
50. And sometimes are white. So color is the worst way to profile people for violence.
Tue May 25, 2021, 10:55 PM
May 2021

just saying

lpbk2713

(43,273 posts)
30. The loss of two teeth wasn't just from a slap in the face.
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:35 PM
May 2021


The asshole slugged (probably sucker punched) the FA with a closed fist. Most likely
as hard as he could. Lock the mofo up and keep him there. He is a danger to society.


RainCaster

(13,717 posts)
32. The airlines need to take a tough stance to protect their employees
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:01 PM
May 2021

An assault on an airline crew member should result in:
1. Immediate landing at the closest airport, and the passenger removed and handed over to law authorities.
2. Immediate placement on the "no fly" list, resulting in that passenger's inability to fly anywhere at any time.
3. Public disclosure of who caused the flight interruption in a press release by the airline
4. Civil penalties as well as criminal should be filed against the perpetrator such that he/she must pay all rescheduling & other fees associated with the extra landing, takeoff and connection reschedules imposed by his/her terrorist behavior.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
33. I have a flight back east booked for next friday. I hope it is an asshole free flight.
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:03 PM
May 2021

Pinback

(13,600 posts)
34. And this occurred upon LANDING.
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:19 PM
May 2021

You're 10 minutes away from getting off the plane after a 90-minute trip (assuming it was non-stop flight) and you can't behave for that long??

I agree with other posters that this passenger should be prosecuted, hopefully imprisoned, and certainly placed on the permanent no-fly list.

irisblue

(37,512 posts)
45. 5 minutes google time
Tue May 25, 2021, 10:00 PM
May 2021

several news articles, no longer in custody, a name, a linkedin account, Facebook and an Instagram. All not made private yet.

This person isn't too bright

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