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Katie Porter Endorsed Nina Turner. So disappointing. (Original Post) FelineOverlord May 2021 OP
Agree. No one who encouraged people to not vote for Democrats in 2016 Hortensis May 2021 #1
Her "bowl of shit" insult about Joe Biden was unforgivable... NurseJackie May 2021 #98
Anyone still doing Both Sides: unforgivable. betsuni May 2021 #100
Why would Clevelanders listen to a Californian about a local race?! NurseJackie May 2021 #103
Katie Porter also endorsed Dorian Gray May 2021 #218
+1 StarfishSaver May 2021 #278
Very disappointed in her. Why would she support someone that is anti-democrat? helpisontheway May 2021 #2
you are so right. And Turner LIED about Hillary!! I will never forgive Turner. Awful Turner ..... Trueblue1968 May 2021 #75
Wow. SO disappointing StarfishSaver May 2021 #3
Nina Turner and Shontel Brown diverge on Israel-Gaza conflict womanofthehills May 2021 #80
Can you see Katiie liking the Cha May 2021 #90
Or liking a candidate who encouraged people to leave the Democratic Party Hortensis May 2021 #94
I know.. she did her Cha May 2021 #194
:) When actions defeat claimed goals, believe the actions? Hortensis May 2021 #221
+1 betsuni May 2021 #225
Hamas is not progressive. Turner has never condemned Hamas. George II May 2021 #112
Katie is a Just Us Democrat LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #279
A Democrat endorsing a Democrat. Quelle surprise 🙄 Arazi May 2021 #4
Nena hasn't been a Dem in years BannonsLiver May 2021 #7
She's on the ticket as a Dem Arazi May 2021 #11
She's running in a primary. ChrisF1961 May 2021 #12
Sigh... ya got me Arazi May 2021 #14
SemanticsReality ChrisF1961 May 2021 #17
It is NOT semantics. It is basic knowledge if elections. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #69
WTF is a hypocrat? ChubbyStar May 2021 #73
Someone that runs as a dem but isn't? CrackityJones75 May 2021 #104
So you don't like Dems who don't act like Democras? Autumn May 2021 #106
What does the filibuster have to do with Nina Turner not acting like a Democrat, Autumn? George II May 2021 #116
Was everything else I said invisable except for the word "filibuster" George? Autumn May 2021 #117
The first sentence correctly addressed the poster you were responding to, Autumn... George II May 2021 #118
The second sentence did too. If I don't understand a post I study it until I do George. Autumn May 2021 #121
Probably something to do with Kyrsten Sinema dansolo May 2021 #219
Thats right. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #130
One response is not hasseling. Comments do happen on a message board. Autumn May 2021 #133
Sure. But then you know all of the history don't ya? CrackityJones75 May 2021 #134
One does not need to know history to know that Dems don't always act like Dems. Autumn May 2021 #135
This message was self-deleted by its author CrackityJones75 May 2021 #137
Make your point or step off my back already. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #138
I made my point in my first response to your post. It seems to have made you angry. Autumn May 2021 #141
Katie Porter is a great Democrat! And she knows another great Democrat when she sees one! Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #178
Nina Turner says she is not a Democrat. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #180
That's in the past. Look forward! Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #189
Has Nina apologized for campaigning and voting for Jill Stein? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #202
The past? sheshe2 May 2021 #211
But she didn't endorse Shontel Brown. Whatev' George II May 2021 #206
She seriously considered running as Jill Stein's running mate AGAINST the Democratic ticket.... George II May 2021 #115
But she didn't, right? Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #125
I don't know what you did or didn't miss, but she gave serious consideration to running.... George II May 2021 #140
Right. But she actually didn't run. Thanks for confirming that. Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #142
Run or not, she still considered it AND she supported Jill Stein throughout.... George II May 2021 #143
Yes... sheshe2 May 2021 #212
Exactly! CrackityJones75 May 2021 #131
People can change! That's ancient history! Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #165
Again I have looked for evidence that Nina has changed LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #204
No. In fact when asked about it recently (a John Roberts interview I think?) she has refused.... George II May 2021 #223
Where do we draw the line at "ancient"? I seem to recall you complaining about someone.... George II May 2021 #213
And being Republican as a college freshman before becoming a Democrat, never voting betsuni May 2021 #216
Boom! mcar May 2021 #226
13. Where do we draw the line at "ancient"? I seem to recall you complaining about someone... George II May 2021 #228
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #243
Sanders runs as a Democrat, too. TwilightZone May 2021 #37
Yet he's not the one throwing roadblocks from our side at Biden's agenda, is he. Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #174
Ummm sheshe2 May 2021 #247
Do you recall Neera Tanden's nomination? That was part of Biden's agenda and he "threw a roadblock"! George II May 2021 #249
Everyone in the Democratic primary is "on the ticket as a Dem" TwilightZone May 2021 #39
Baloney! CrackityJones75 May 2021 #136
Well, Trump considered running as a Democrat. People who don't believe in Hortensis May 2021 #95
+1 betsuni May 2021 #99
She's on the ballot as as Democrat because, as she explained in her announcement email.... George II May 2021 #114
Who did turner vote for in 2016? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #58
See my post #66 below. She's only running as a Democrat because she wasn't able to get her.... George II May 2021 #71
Ha! I will use the term I hate...cancel Katie?! JanMichael May 2021 #5
Ha! I will use the term I hate...cancel Katie?! FelineOverlord May 2021 #10
Katie is going with the more progressive candidate womanofthehills May 2021 #81
Welp, there goes my admiration of Katie Porter forever BannonsLiver May 2021 #6
Ikr.. this is sickening.. Cha May 2021 #29
So Katie likes the more progressive candidate womanofthehills May 2021 #82
All those formerly respectable people and organizations are now thrown on the pile of discards Doremus May 2021 #148
Zero shits to give here on any of that. BannonsLiver May 2021 #230
Do you agree with Neena that voting for Joe Biden is like eating shit? BannonsLiver May 2021 #232
No comment. sheshe2 May 2021 #248
... betsuni May 2021 #255
... sheshe2 May 2021 #256
Ick. GoCubsGo May 2021 #8
The problem is if it's a low turnout election. OnDoutside May 2021 #24
I'll wait for her to whip out her white board multigraincracker May 2021 #9
Me too. HUAJIAO May 2021 #36
WTF. dalton99a May 2021 #13
She could have made the point without the ableist dig. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #15
I have sent a question to Katie Porter asking if this is true Bev54 May 2021 #16
Thanks! Cha May 2021 #31
I got a reply that confirmed that yes she did endorse her Bev54 May 2021 #40
TY.. Turner said "..voting for Biden Cha May 2021 #41
I got another message suggesting that I send her a tweet to Bev54 May 2021 #42
I doubt that this endorsement will have any impact LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #18
Actually- Nina has raised so much more money than Brown womanofthehills May 2021 #86
No votes have been caste yet LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #91
The projected winner? Who projected that? George II May 2021 #111
I was amused by that claim LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #205
Has anyone checked to see where that $$ is coming from? Gidney N Cloyd May 2021 #168
Where is the money coming from - 1st quarter report womanofthehills May 2021 #186
The projected winner? mcar May 2021 #227
WTH? happybird May 2021 #19
Good question. It's not on Turner's website. SharonClark May 2021 #21
It's on this website: WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #32
Very disappointing mcar May 2021 #20
And.. "..Disturbing.. " Cha May 2021 #27
I'll make a donation mcar May 2021 #47
Yes We Can! Cha May 2021 #61
Really disappointing.... OnDoutside May 2021 #22
And, "..Disturbing.." Cha May 2021 #28
Big misstep. OnDoutside May 2021 #30
No doubt! Nina said voting for Joe Biden Cha May 2021 #35
Katie Porter is a great Democrat! And she knows another great Democrat when she sees one! Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #166
Nina is the founding member of a third party and a member of Just Us Democrats LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #242
Rt TY.. donation to Shontel Brown! Cha May 2021 #23
"As a constituent, I find Representative Porter's endorsement disturbing and disappointing." Cha May 2021 #25
You should delete this post unless/until the claim in the tweet can be verified Fiendish Thingy May 2021 #26
Confirmed by Turner herself. With a pic too!! Budi May 2021 #33
Post removed Post removed May 2021 #44
If Turner were lying, Porter would have set the record straight pretty quickly StarfishSaver May 2021 #48
I was kidding. RegularJam May 2021 #53
Lol StarfishSaver May 2021 #56
I recommend the use of the "sarcasm" smiley. TomSlick May 2021 #62
. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #34
Turner said "voting for Biden is like eating shit.." Cha May 2021 #38
Katie Porter is a great Democrat! And she knows another great Democrat when she sees one! Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #181
That's really messed up. RegularJam May 2021 #43
Off to donate to Shontel Brown. Turner is a hateful sort, dislikes Biden PortTack May 2021 #45
No - she said will work with Biden womanofthehills May 2021 #87
This is also what she said, which are we to believe: George II May 2021 #110
So you DO support the candidate that supports Israel? Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #149
I support Shontel Brown. You can characterize her or my support any way you want. George II May 2021 #152
Seems Shontel Brown has some questionable actions as council member progressoid May 2021 #161
Yikes! Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #170
Indeed. progressoid May 2021 #239
She was just doing her job. So, where did that compilation of negative spin did that come from? George II May 2021 #171
I think you will appreciate this. I copied the last paragraph and Googled... Metatron May 2021 #175
Thanks for that. Hmmm, right? George II May 2021 #177
Is the Intercept not an acceptable source to post? ChubbyStar May 2021 #179
They've been known to be anti-Democratic Party over the years. George II May 2021 #182
The poster of the article is a long time DU member in good standing ChubbyStar May 2021 #184
What piece? Just looks like a few anonymous non-objective paragraphs to me.... George II May 2021 #185
I didn't exclude it deliberately. progressoid May 2021 #238
Sorry I forgot the link. progressoid May 2021 #233
I like Katie Porter so I guess I'll donate to Nina Turner. Better kick some over to Katie Porter too Autumn May 2021 #46
Wow StarfishSaver May 2021 #50
Wow? Kicking money to a couple of Democrats is horrible? Sorry, I don't hate people who Autumn May 2021 #51
Giving money to Nina Turner isn't "kicking money to a Democrat" StarfishSaver May 2021 #54
She's running in a primary as a Democrat. Katie Porter endorsed her. I'm good with that Autumn May 2021 #59
Running as a Democrat doesn't make one a Democrat StarfishSaver May 2021 #60
You just did a Simone Biles. sheshe2 May 2021 #251
Read post number 66 and then get back to us about how Turner is running as a Democrat. onenote May 2021 #76
She's running in the primary as a Democrat. I'm not fooled by anyone and she's more of a Democrat Autumn May 2021 #105
Autumn. sheshe2 May 2021 #79
Totaly the opposite of what your mother used to say. Autumn May 2021 #113
You are supporting only one Democrat, not two StarfishSaver May 2021 #119
You don't consider her a Democrat. Katie Porter does. And so do I. Autumn May 2021 #120
Now that is getting to the point! Thank you for your brevity ChubbyStar May 2021 #122
Katie Porter is a law professor Autumn May 2021 #124
I find it confusing that people are questioning her judgement ChubbyStar May 2021 #128
I hope she is re-elected by her district in a landslide Autumn May 2021 #129
Short reference to Katie of her qualifications. sheshe2 May 2021 #253
I trust Porters judgment I like Progressives and I prefer Nina to Brown. Autumn May 2021 #254
What aspect of Shontel's platform do you believe Nina is better on? StarfishSaver May 2021 #262
I'm going to kick some over to Nina too womanofthehills May 2021 #88
Same here. How things change, I was told last week by a guy that Katie Porter Autumn May 2021 #108
Dissapointed Katie Porter endorsed Nina Turner. maliaSmith May 2021 #49
Great endorsement for Nina . Should help energize the Progressive base. jalan48 May 2021 #52
It's not going to help her much in Cleveland StarfishSaver May 2021 #55
I hope to hell not.. Cha May 2021 #64
Shontel Brown is Progressive Cha May 2021 #63
She should benefit as well then. jalan48 May 2021 #67
Your evidence (the upteenth posting of the "eating shit" quotation) doesn't support your claim. Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #151
Nina Turner was so Wrong Cha May 2021 #191
What she said about Biden has no impact on her progressive policy support. Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #220
I want a real Democrat to be the nominee and not someone who hates the party LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #224
I don't see anything "progressive" about Cha May 2021 #240
This will make a great attack ad LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #266
Ugh. betsuni May 2021 #269
For whom? Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #272
For the GOP who want to suppress the vote of true or real Democrats LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #273
But her working to throw government to conservative ANTI-progressives Hortensis May 2021 #277
This endorsement will not help Nina LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #57
Rtx2 Wow those are Cha May 2021 #68
Love me some Katie but Nina isn't a person I would want to associate with. She's the very example uponit7771 May 2021 #65
In her announcement email, Nina Turner said "our People's Party isn't registered in Ohio yet, so.... George II May 2021 #66
How long does it take to register a party? BannonsLiver May 2021 #70
Joe Lieberman, after he lost the Democratic Senate primary in Connecticut to Ned Lamont in 2006..... George II May 2021 #72
Looks like she's trying to hide all Cha May 2021 #74
I have a feeling she really does think we're too stupid to remember anything about her. betsuni May 2021 #84
You should post that tweet a few more times Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #126
Nina's challenger, Shontel Brown has a comprehensive and impressive list of endorsements Cha May 2021 #193
I just can't wait for that all important endorsement to drop - that of Secretary Marcia Fudge. George II May 2021 #196
Yes, HUD Sec Marcia Fudge, who Cha May 2021 #200
Running as a "moderate Democrat" means she can't call Democrats neoliberal bowls of shit anymore. betsuni May 2021 #197
Yes, So Divisive like Cha May 2021 #201
Sure! If you wish. Budi May 2021 #199
It can't be posted enough. Think I'll do it again! George II May 2021 #203
Do you have any evidence that Nina has apologized for her attacks on the party? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #208
Here is that speech LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #92
"No more lousy peace. We can both slay the Neofascist. Slay the Neoliberal... So, yeah, this is Revo OnDoutside May 2021 #93
That populist revolution nonsense is totally out of fashion in 2021. betsuni May 2021 #96
She is advocating killing people. sheshe2 May 2021 #192
But I see people saying that people change and what was said last year is "ancient history." betsuni May 2021 #195
Absurd, isn't it. sheshe2 May 2021 #198
Does this mean Turner is NOT a loyal Democrat? She views Democrats as inferior? NurseJackie May 2021 #102
LMAO aocommunalpunch May 2021 #77
Democrats still support her. nt RandiFan1290 May 2021 #97
Nina campaigned for Jill Stein LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #78
Katie Porter is a law professor Autumn May 2021 #123
Porter is also evidently part of the Just Us Democrats LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #144
I don't care who backs Katie Porters up. As long as they back her. Autumn May 2021 #145
Does Porter approve of this speech by Nina? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #146
I don't work for Katie Porter. I simply like her. You can ask her. Autumn May 2021 #147
I lost all respect for Porter when I found that she is a Just Us Democrat LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #155
Just like you, Katie Porter has the right to support, or not support whomever she wants to. Autumn May 2021 #158
What has the Just Us Democrats done that is positive? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #164
Maybe check the spelling? I also like Jamaal Bowman. Autumn May 2021 #167
Why? What have the Just Us Democrats accomplished? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #172
Crickets... sheshe2 May 2021 #207
I am willing to wait for this answer LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #209
I believe that speech was being made WHILE the 2016 Democratic National Convention was in session. George II May 2021 #156
Nina's been a superdelegate, lobbyist, now Democrat (establishment): things she's been demonizing betsuni May 2021 #169
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #244
Of course it does. Autumn May 2021 #250
Was Nina even invited to this event? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #252
You don't know how to use Google Let My People Vote? I'm not clicking on your link Autumn May 2021 #257
LOL LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #258
I told you I'm not clicking your link. I'm not your information booth and if you know the answer to Autumn May 2021 #259
How will a non-member of the party hope to win a special election contest w/o help from Biden? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #263
Methinks she's a reluctant "Democrat".... George II May 2021 #264
Wasn't that back when Porter tried to get Maxine Waters' Financial Services Committee downgraded.... George II May 2021 #154
This could be the first time Katie failed to do her homework. oasis May 2021 #83
So, Katie needs to support the pro Israel candidate womanofthehills May 2021 #127
There is MUCH more to Shontel Brown than her support of Israel. But what's wrong with.... George II May 2021 #157
Porter and Turner are much closer on their policy support. Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #150
Maybe the poster forgot to do their homework like they said Katie might have ChubbyStar May 2021 #153
You mean like Nina say8ing "Voting for Biden Cha May 2021 #190
I have noticed no one ever bothers to answer your question. sheshe2 May 2021 #210
Comparing eating shit to voting for Trump, yes. Republicans did that. betsuni May 2021 #217
Somehow I'm not surprised. Nt BootinUp May 2021 #85
I thought she was smarter than that kcr May 2021 #89
I thought Katie Porter had good judgment Sunsky May 2021 #101
Okay...DU Dems fighting over dumb shit again. pecosbob May 2021 #107
Ha, yep Luciferous May 2021 #160
So Porter likes the more progressive candidate. Who would have thought? Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #109
Isn't she the one who said voting for Biden was like eating shit? BannonsLiver May 2021 #231
She certainly is. She's also the one who grudgingly said she "had" to run as a Democrat because.... George II May 2021 #234
"But she's so progressive!1111" BannonsLiver May 2021 #237
You going to tell Porter to take a seat? Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #235
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #245
Beautiful pic of Pres Biden &Shontel Brown! Cha May 2021 #261
We already have Greene on the far right spewing filth. sheshe2 May 2021 #265
Comparing the progressive wing to the Qanon group. Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #271
I don't believe Nina is... sheshe2 May 2021 #275
Ding! Ding! Ding! My thoughts exactly. I can envision Turner being a very divisive figure.... Tarheel_Dem May 2021 #274
Shontel Brown is the superior candidate for #OH11 LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #280
As I drive around my NE Ohio neighborhood I see several Nina Turner yard signs Doremus May 2021 #132
When I drive around our neighborhood in CT, I see a trump sign, no Biden signs. Biden took CT by 20% George II May 2021 #176
Personally, I don't much care for Turner Bettie May 2021 #139
+1 SunImp May 2021 #187
Oh well, I still love Katie Porter! Luciferous May 2021 #159
DU has spoken. UNDER THE BUS YOU GO KATIE! progressoid May 2021 #162
Katie Porter is a great Democrat! And she knows another great Democrat when she sees one! Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #163
Who might that be? (btw, welcome to the discussion!) George II May 2021 #173
Has Nina apologized for campaigning and voting for Jill Stein? LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #215
Well that sucks. I was really hoping it was a mistake, but it's real. Bleacher Creature May 2021 #183
This showed up on Twitter a few minutes ago! George II May 2021 #188
lol Rt TY! Yes, ELECT Shontell Brown! Cha May 2021 #214
Nice pic of Shontel with Congresswoman Fudge of OHIO. oasis May 2021 #229
I know.. I love it! Cha May 2021 #241
Soon as I sell my house, I am sending a big donation. Demsrule86 May 2021 #222
So disappointed with DU right now. Iggo May 2021 #236
Did Nina show up for this event? Shontel was at today's event LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #246
Yeah right.. we know how Nina feels Cha May 2021 #260
Yes we do know from her own words LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #267
Full Display how bad Cha May 2021 #268
So she's expanded beyond the bowl of shit and you have to eat half of it to TWO bowls of shit and... George II May 2021 #270
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #276

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
98. Her "bowl of shit" insult about Joe Biden was unforgivable...
Wed May 26, 2021, 05:58 AM
May 2021

Her "bowl of shit" insult about Joe Biden was unforgivable... she was, in effect, telling voters that Biden was just as bad as Trump. (Now... WHERE have we heard comments like THAT before?)

Things like that to not serve any good purpose.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

betsuni

(26,602 posts)
100. Anyone still doing Both Sides: unforgivable.
Wed May 26, 2021, 06:28 AM
May 2021

Democrats being "ideologically bankrupt" and corrupt because all they think about is money, that anyone working for corporations or financial companies donating to elect Democrats was corrupting? What the hell was that about?

Dorian Gray

(13,647 posts)
218. Katie Porter also endorsed
Thu May 27, 2021, 06:12 AM
May 2021

Maya Wiley for Mayor of NYC.

With all due respect for Ms. Wiley, whom I do respect (but isn't my top candidate), zip it Katie Porter.

I'm sorry, but NYC isn't her business. Ohio isn't her business. This is hubris.

helpisontheway

(5,033 posts)
2. Very disappointed in her. Why would she support someone that is anti-democrat?
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:20 PM
May 2021

Nina Turner is exactly like Susan Sarandon and the other Bernie or bust crowd. They wanted Bernie or they would try to destroy the party.

womanofthehills

(9,012 posts)
80. Nina Turner and Shontel Brown diverge on Israel-Gaza conflict
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:06 PM
May 2021

I can see Katie liking the more progressive candidate.

Further underscoring that contrast, both candidates offered sharply divergent statements this week as violence escalated between Israel and Hamas. “In times like these the United States must stand firmly behind our close ally Israel,” Brown said in comments to Jewish Insider on Wednesday, while urging “all sides, regardless of fault, to exercise restraint and de-escalate the crisis.”
“Hamas’s massive rocket attacks are deeply troubling and must stop,” Brown added. “Hamas is placing civilians on both sides at risk. Israel has the right to defend its citizens in the face of these attacks. Israeli families should never have to spend the night in a bomb shelter.”
Turner, on the oth er hand, positioned herself firmly on the side of the Palestinians. “Solidarity is a verb,” Turner declared in a briefly worded Twitter message, adding a raised-fist emoji to the end of her comment. https://jewishinsider.com/2021/05/nina-turner-and-shontel-brown-diverge-on-israel-gaza-conflict/So

Cha

(300,762 posts)
90. Can you see Katiie liking the
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:32 AM
May 2021

candidate who said on July 28, 2020 that voting for Biden is like eating shit"?

And, trying to start a 3rd party but failing.. ?

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
94. Or liking a candidate who encouraged people to leave the Democratic Party
Wed May 26, 2021, 05:06 AM
May 2021

in 2016, 2018 and 2020? Knowing that that would benefit Trump and other Republicans in those elections.

Cha

(300,762 posts)
194. I know.. she did her
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:46 PM
May 2021
damnedest to mess up the Democratic Party who was and is Fighting for our VERY Democracy!!

She started the people's party..'

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-is-in/

Hey Nina .. We "Give A Shit about People" and so does President Joe Biden! If you would pay attention.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
221. :) When actions defeat claimed goals, believe the actions?
Thu May 27, 2021, 08:55 AM
May 2021

Antagonism on the farther left toward the dominant liberal mainstream has the same kind of irrational, from-the-gut foundation as the antagonism of the trumpists. The rest follows.

Nothing new here.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
69. It is NOT semantics. It is basic knowledge if elections.
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:25 PM
May 2021

She herself has said she isn’t a democrat. Running under the larty doesn’t make one a dem either in my book. It means she is a hypocrat.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
106. So you don't like Dems who don't act like Democras?
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:44 AM
May 2021
Man, that fucking filibuster is killing us isn't it.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
117. Was everything else I said invisable except for the word "filibuster" George?
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:01 PM
May 2021

Sorry you don't understand what I said. As far as replies go, it's a fairly easy sentence to understand.

George II

(67,782 posts)
118. The first sentence correctly addressed the poster you were responding to, Autumn...
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:04 PM
May 2021

But I'll ask again, what does that have to do with the filibuster?

dansolo

(5,378 posts)
219. Probably something to do with Kyrsten Sinema
Thu May 27, 2021, 06:25 AM
May 2021

You know, the former Green Party member who won't support killing the filibuster.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
130. Thats right.
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:51 PM
May 2021

And have as much popcorn as you like.

She herself has declared that she isn’t a democrat. Why you want to hassle me about it escapes me. Take her word for it.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
135. One does not need to know history to know that Dems don't always act like Dems.
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:08 PM
May 2021

It's not my first rodeo either.

Response to Autumn (Reply #135)

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
138. Make your point or step off my back already.
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:12 PM
May 2021

JFC you wanna see my hall pass too? Fucking hell I have better things to do than argue about whether or not nina fucking turner is a democrat or not. She’s garvage who doesn’t deserve any help from the democrats whatsoever. A complete and total waste of our resources. If you wanna support that clown go right ahead. And have your say about it too. I won’t follow you around and dissect every word you utter about it either.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
141. I made my point in my first response to your post. It seems to have made you angry.
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:28 PM
May 2021
So you don't like Dems who don't act like Democrats?
Man, that fucking filibuster is killing us isn't it.


Didn't ask for a hall pass, made one comment to a random post. Bye, have a nice day

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
202. Has Nina apologized for campaigning and voting for Jill Stein?
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:25 PM
May 2021

Has Nina apologized for campaigning against Joe Biden and telling people that voting for the Democratic Party is like eating shit? Where is the admission from Nina that campaigning and voting for Jill stein was a mistake? Has Nina apologized for her comments about voting for actual Democrats being like eating shit?

I would love to nina’s apologies. Please post links to these apologies.

Why would real members of the Democratic Party be comfortable voting for a Just Us Semocrat and a member of a third party??

George II

(67,782 posts)
115. She seriously considered running as Jill Stein's running mate AGAINST the Democratic ticket....
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:52 AM
May 2021

....back in 2016, she openly pointed out that she voted for Jill Stein, and when asked if she would support Joe Biden she responded by claiming he was a half bowl of shit, trump being the other half of that bowl.

She may call herself a Democrat, but she has demonstrated that she's much less of a Democrat over the years than her toughest opponent in the primary.

George II

(67,782 posts)
140. I don't know what you did or didn't miss, but she gave serious consideration to running....
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:26 PM
May 2021

.....with Jill Stein as her VP.

What you might have missed is that she didn't vote for the Democratic candidate, but DID vote for Jill Stein and, when asked last year if she voted 3rd party she coyly said (paraphrasing) "who I voted for is my business". She did speak at the so-called "People's Convention" with Jill Stein in July 2016, days after our convention ended. Did she "pal around" with OUR nominee that week, or just OUR nominee's opponent?



You may have also missed this now infamous quote of her when assessing the choice of voting for trump or Biden:

"‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing. It’s still shit.”

Is this the kind of "Democrat" you want to see in Congress?

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,115 posts)
142. Right. But she actually didn't run. Thanks for confirming that.
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:32 PM
May 2021

I have not missed any of those things, but thanks for thinking of me.

George II

(67,782 posts)
143. Run or not, she still considered it AND she supported Jill Stein throughout....
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:33 PM
May 2021

....the remainder of the campaign.

More importantly, she did NOT vote for the Democratic ticket.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,482 posts)
165. People can change! That's ancient history!
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:53 PM
May 2021

Katie Porter is a great Democrat! And she knows another great Democrat when she sees one!

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
204. Again I have looked for evidence that Nina has changed
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:27 PM
May 2021

Has Nina apologized for campaigning and voting for Jill Stein. What is the evidenced that Nina has changed?

I look forward to seeing your evidence that Nina has changed

George II

(67,782 posts)
223. No. In fact when asked about it recently (a John Roberts interview I think?) she has refused....
Thu May 27, 2021, 09:19 AM
May 2021

....to answer.

Says quite a bit. And, considering her famous quote comparing trump and Biden, I'm sure she didn't vote for Biden either.

George II

(67,782 posts)
213. Where do we draw the line at "ancient"? I seem to recall you complaining about someone....
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:53 PM
May 2021

....who was a "Goldwater Girl" in high school more than 50 years ago.





betsuni

(26,602 posts)
216. And being Republican as a college freshman before becoming a Democrat, never voting
Thu May 27, 2021, 12:56 AM
May 2021

for a Republican, means one can never, ever change and must remain an evil Republican for all eternity. It is a scientific fact!

What happened in the '60s is current events, not ancient history, but calling Democrats corrupt, immoral, evil, bribed, same as Republicans, right up until one is forced to run as a Democrat because you'll lose as a third party candidate (in this case 2021): ancient history. You just change lanes and claim you're the true Democrat, more Democratic than Democrats.

Nobody's falling for that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
228. 13. Where do we draw the line at "ancient"? I seem to recall you complaining about someone...
Thu May 27, 2021, 09:54 AM
May 2021

....who was a "Goldwater Girl" in high school more than 50 years ago.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15469174

Line?

TwilightZone

(26,304 posts)
37. Sanders runs as a Democrat, too.
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:26 PM
May 2021

And for the same reasons. It's the only real path to a win. It's for political expediency, including access to party resources and support.

He serves in Congress and runs his Congressional campaigns as an independent and also identifies as same.

TwilightZone

(26,304 posts)
39. Everyone in the Democratic primary is "on the ticket as a Dem"
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:30 PM
May 2021

In context, it's a meaningless assertion.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
136. Baloney!
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:09 PM
May 2021

Sorry but that is bullshit. If we allow that to happen we will not have a party. There is having a big tent and there is allowing others to completely undermine and destroy the padty from within. If you declare yourself to NOT be a democrat you damn well should NOT run or even be allowed to run as a democrat. If you refer to the party leaders as a half a bowl of shit you are not a member of my party. If you peddle lies and tight wing talking points you are not a member of my party.

The part HAS to stand for something and mean something and the platform has to be adopted by its members. If not then we will not ever be able to deliver on anything.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
95. Well, Trump considered running as a Democrat. People who don't believe in
Wed May 26, 2021, 05:19 AM
May 2021

Democratic Party ideals do sometimes run as Democrats in blue districts, disguising their true views to get power.

Turner admitted she refused to vote Democratic in 2016 and openly advised everyone to leave the party -- and has continued ever since (except right now).

She sees weakening the Democratic Party as necessary to protect progressivism in government from both the Democratic Party that created it and the Republican Party determined to destroy progressive government.

It's also apparently her way of protecting her vote as a black woman from the rising racist, misogynistic fascism of the Republican Party.

A noble cause in her mind no doubt.

George II

(67,782 posts)
114. She's on the ballot as as Democrat because, as she explained in her announcement email....
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:48 AM
May 2021

...."our People's Party isn't registered in Ohio yet, so I HAVE to run as a Democrat (caps mine). She went out of her way to point out that she's only reluctantly running as a Democrat.

That's not the kind of "democrat" that I'd be willing to vote for considering there is a highly qualified, talented, and LOYAL Democrat on the primary ballot.

George II

(67,782 posts)
71. See my post #66 below. She's only running as a Democrat because she wasn't able to get her....
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:29 PM
May 2021

...."People's Party" registered in Ohio. So, as she put it, "I HAVE to run as a Democrat."

She's also the person that said about the choice between Biden and trump:

"You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing. It’s still shit."

JanMichael

(24,998 posts)
5. Ha! I will use the term I hate...cancel Katie?!
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:24 PM
May 2021

As moderately reactionary as some folks are here now I can't imagine seeing that happen. I mean I can.

Cancel Katie!!!!!

FelineOverlord

(3,669 posts)
10. Ha! I will use the term I hate...cancel Katie?!
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:32 PM
May 2021

I will not cancel Katie. I still appreciate her and her whiteboard.

But there are far better candidates who are REAL Democrats and not so toxic.

womanofthehills

(9,012 posts)
81. Katie is going with the more progressive candidate
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:20 PM
May 2021

Nina has pushed buttons but is more in line with the Squad - more progressive on Green New Deal and Medicare for all than Brown.

BannonsLiver

(17,096 posts)
6. Welp, there goes my admiration of Katie Porter forever
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:27 PM
May 2021

What a huge lapse in judgement, but if this is the way she really feels, maybe I read her wrong to begin with. Either way, buh-bye.

womanofthehills

(9,012 posts)
82. So Katie likes the more progressive candidate
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:32 PM
May 2021

Turner has already scored endorsements from progressive powerhouses including Sanders and Reps. Jamaal Bowman (D-N.Y.), Cori Bush (D-Mo.), Pramila Jayapal (D-Wa.), Mondaire Jones (D-N.Y.), Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), Andy Levin (D-Mich.), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y), Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), and Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.).

Individual endorsers include former Kentucky state lawmaker Charles Booker, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, former U.S. Labor Secretary Robert Reich, 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson, Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin, and a host of faith leaders.

Actors and activists Danny Glover, Mark Ruffalo, and Susan Sarandon have also endorsed Turner.

She has also been endorsed by organizations including numerous unions and environmental groups, Justice Democrats, Our Revolution, Progressive Democrats of America, Roots Action, and the Working Families Party.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
148. All those formerly respectable people and organizations are now thrown on the pile of discards
Wed May 26, 2021, 03:25 PM
May 2021

How dare they have any thoughts or opinions contrary to centrist/moderate philosophy!

Begone! We only want loyal (mute) followers in our gargantuan tent! /s


BannonsLiver

(17,096 posts)
230. Zero shits to give here on any of that.
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:17 PM
May 2021

It’s a cavalcade of people who are bad at politics, anyway. Not impressed at all.

GoCubsGo

(32,501 posts)
8. Ick.
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:30 PM
May 2021

"Disappointing" is a massive understatement. Hopefully, the people of that district will show better sense at the ballot box than this.

Bev54

(10,640 posts)
16. I have sent a question to Katie Porter asking if this is true
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:42 PM
May 2021

that she is endorsing Nina Turner. I wonder if she will reply.

Bev54

(10,640 posts)
40. I got a reply that confirmed that yes she did endorse her
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:38 PM
May 2021

but the reply was from one of her volunteers so she was unable to provide me her reasoning.

Cha

(300,762 posts)
41. TY.. Turner said "..voting for Biden
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:42 PM
May 2021

is like eating shit.." & this was on July 28, 2020.. There is no reasoning, imv.

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

Bev54

(10,640 posts)
42. I got another message suggesting that I send her a tweet to
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:44 PM
May 2021

have her explain her endorsement. I am not on twitter so if you or anyone else here is on twitter, can you please send her a tweet and ask her to explain her reasoning for the endorsement. I did tell the volunteer that most of the reaction to it, appears to be negative. If someone does tweet and she answers, please let me know what she says.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
91. No votes have been caste yet
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:33 AM
May 2021

Nina is not a real Democrat. Here is her speech at the People‘s Party convention. Good luck in convincing people to vote for a Jill Stein supporter who called Joe Biden some nasty names


womanofthehills

(9,012 posts)
186. Where is the money coming from - 1st quarter report
Wed May 26, 2021, 06:07 PM
May 2021

Nina Turner has raised a total of $2.2 million so far for her bid to succeed Marcia Fudge in Congress, while another leading candidate, Shontel Brown, has brought in $680,0000.

Turner, a former state senator and Cleveland City Council member, has developed a national profile as a leading Bernie Sanders supporter, and the campaign has pulled in donations from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., with California as the top contributing state, followed by Ohio.

According to the campaign, Turner also has received contributions from every ZIP code in the 11th Congressional District, which reaches from Cleveland to Akron.

Brown, a county council member and chair of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party, has collected endorsements from many local elected Democrats and construction labor unions. More than half of her contributions have come from Northeast Ohio, according to the campaign. https://www.ideastream.org/news/nina-turner-raises-22-million-for-congressional-campaign

happybird

(4,882 posts)
19. WTH?
Tue May 25, 2021, 03:47 PM
May 2021

Is there verification of this or just a tweet from someone without a blue check by their Twitter handle?

It seems very out of character for Katie.

SharonClark

(10,068 posts)
21. Good question. It's not on Turner's website.
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:00 PM
May 2021

Other Endorsements
Attorney General Keith Ellison
Robert Reich, Former Secretary of Labor
Mayor of Birmingham Randall Woodfin
Former Kentucky State Rep. Charles Booker
Marianne Williamson
Andrew Yang
Danny Glover
Michael Render
Mark Ruffalo
Stephen Bishop
Susan Sarandon
Morgan Harper

Cha

(300,762 posts)
35. No doubt! Nina said voting for Joe Biden
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:23 PM
May 2021

is like shit".. &l this was after the primary..

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5


LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
242. Nina is the founding member of a third party and a member of Just Us Democrats
Thu May 27, 2021, 04:35 PM
May 2021

How does campaigning for and voting for Jill Stein make Nina any type of Democrat? How does stating that voting for the clear and overwhelming winner of the Democratic nomination process is like eating shit makes Nina any type of Democrat? How is Nina a great Democrat? I would love an explanation. How do you define great?

Fiendish Thingy

(16,630 posts)
26. You should delete this post unless/until the claim in the tweet can be verified
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:09 PM
May 2021

First two pages of Google search only have one other tweet mentioning this, and this DU thread.

A lie travels around the world before the truth can get its pants on.

Response to Budi (Reply #33)

TomSlick

(11,337 posts)
62. I recommend the use of the "sarcasm" smiley.
Tue May 25, 2021, 07:23 PM
May 2021

We do well in conversation sensing sarcasm. However, without tone of voice, facial expressions, or other cues in posts it its difficult to know if a post is meant to be sarcastic. As a frequent users of sarcasm, I have learned to include "To the extent needed, ."

It is a violation of the rules to personally attack Democratic figures, even those with whom we disagree. Questioning the veracity of a Democratic figure is a personal attack. If the rule applies to President Biden, it also applies to other public figures who identify themselves as Democrats.

Cha

(300,762 posts)
38. Turner said "voting for Biden is like eating shit.."
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:26 PM
May 2021

& this was on July 28, 2020..

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

What the hell is Porter thinking?

PortTack

(33,555 posts)
45. Off to donate to Shontel Brown. Turner is a hateful sort, dislikes Biden
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:00 PM
May 2021

I could just see her voting against Biden’s agenda continuously

womanofthehills

(9,012 posts)
87. No - she said will work with Biden
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:26 AM
May 2021

You guys never talk about either candidate’s policies. So you like Brown’s love of Israel despite Israel bombing apts and killing babies in their beds and demolishing the press building over the suffering of the Palestine people - then I guess Shantell Brown is your person.

George II

(67,782 posts)
110. This is also what she said, which are we to believe:
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:21 AM
May 2021
Nina Turner, a co-chair of the Sanders campaign, told me she has no appetite for the choice she faces: “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/how-trump-could-win-reelection/612205/

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,115 posts)
149. So you DO support the candidate that supports Israel?
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:00 PM
May 2021

Because that was the question. It wasn't asking for the 30th posting of the bowl of shit statement.

progressoid

(50,192 posts)
161. Seems Shontel Brown has some questionable actions as council member
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:45 PM
May 2021
When Shontel Brown was running for her seat on Cuyahoga County Council in 2014, she responded to questions about her links to the family of a major contractor by promising to “recuse herself from county contracts with ties to Mark Perkins as necessary.” Perkins, Brown’s partner, has longstanding ties to the Cleveland-based general contractor Perk.

On February 28, 2017, Brown deemed recusal unnecessary and voted with her colleagues to give a nearly $7 million contract to Perk. Ten weeks later, one of the firm’s owners helped organize a fundraiser that bankrolled a significant portion of her reelection campaign, making an in-kind donation of $2,000 at a fundraiser for Brown that netted her over $7,000, a significant sum in the low-budget world of Cleveland-area council races. In total, she has approved more than $17 million to Perk and has received $13,000 in campaign donations from the Perkins family and Perk’s current owners, the Cifani family.


Besides the $7 million contract in 2017, Brown also voted on three other occasions to approve Cuyahoga city contracts for Perk, totaling an additional $10 million between 2015 and 2019. And in August 2020, she voted in favor of contracts of $1.875 million to two firms, one headed by Mark Perkins’s sister and a second whose former vice president is another family member of Perkins. Perk and McTech, a company owned by Mark Perkins, are frequent and longtime business associates.

Perk was co-founded by Charles Perkins, the uncle of Brown’s longtime partner Mark. Perk’s current owners, the Cifani family, have been generous supporters of her campaigns for office. Brown received campaign contributions from the Perkins and Cifani families in her low-budget campaigns for county council and, before that, for city council in the Cleveland suburb of Warrensville Heights, where both she and her mentor, Marcia Fudge, got their political starts.


Yikes. That's the kind of stuff we normally chastise the GOP for.

Metatron

(1,258 posts)
175. I think you will appreciate this. I copied the last paragraph and Googled...
Wed May 26, 2021, 05:19 PM
May 2021

first hit is from the Intercept. I didn't waste my time after that. No wonder no source was included.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
179. Is the Intercept not an acceptable source to post?
Wed May 26, 2021, 05:35 PM
May 2021

You might want to alert on the post. Hmmm, right?

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
184. The poster of the article is a long time DU member in good standing
Wed May 26, 2021, 05:48 PM
May 2021

I don't have a problem with the piece, regardless of your opinion of the Intercept. Have a nice day.

progressoid

(50,192 posts)
238. I didn't exclude it deliberately.
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:44 PM
May 2021

It was a simple oversight.

If you don't like that source, perhaps the Cleveland Plain Dealer

Shontel Brown must resign as Cuyahoga County Democratic Party chair
Updated Feb 19, 2021; Posted Feb 19, 2021

The Democratic Party wields enormous political power in Cuyahoga County, often deciding elections with its endorsements, when voters go armed into polling places with the party card of preferred candidates. But Shontel Brown, as chair of the county party, and buttressed by a leadership group loyal to her, exercises even greater power to pick intraparty winners and losers.

By controlling the party’s apparatus, Brown and her leadership team have the biggest say in which candidates get the backing, the money, the time and the endorsements of local labor and elected officials. They can influence, as well, who has the biggest “ins” with precinct clubs and other voter groups.

That’s why Brown must step down immediately as chair of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party in light of her long-announced candidacy for Congress.

She should have done so months ago -- as soon as she said in early December that she was running to replace her mentor, U.S. Rep. Marcia Fudge, in Ohio’s 11th Congressional District. Fudge is the Biden administration’s choice as U.S. secretary of housing and urban development.

Fudge’s gold-plated Democratic district picks up parts of Greater Cleveland and Akron, so the Democratic primary field to replace her is already large and could get larger, since whoever wins the Democratic primary will almost certainly win the seat.

In deciding the winner of that Democratic primary contest, the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party chair will play a large role.

Brown is already doing so now -- improperly, in her own favor.

more...https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2021/02/shontel-brown-must-resign-as-cuyahoga-county-democratic-party-chair.html

progressoid

(50,192 posts)
233. Sorry I forgot the link.
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:35 PM
May 2021

I was in a hurry because, well, life.

So the article is here:

https://theintercept.com/2021/04/14/cleveland-cuyahoga-shontel-brown-contracts-nina-turner/

Written by these two guys:

Matthew Cunningham-Cook is a writer and researcher with expertise in health care, retirement policy, and capital markets. A contributor to The Intercept, he is a researcher for a nurses union in Pennsylvania. He was previously a public sector researcher for the Communications Workers of America, and has written for The Nation, Al Jazeera, and In These Times.

Sam Allard is the senior writer at Cleveland Scene Magazine, where he reports on politics, power, and justice in northeast Ohio. He is a graduate of the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University and the NEOMFA at Cleveland State. Prior to Scene, he was a reporting fellow at the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project in Sarajevo. His work has appeared in Vice and Slate and is forthcoming in Esquire.


Autumn

(45,504 posts)
46. I like Katie Porter so I guess I'll donate to Nina Turner. Better kick some over to Katie Porter too
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:11 PM
May 2021

for when the Primary Porter bullshit starts.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
50. Wow
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:24 PM
May 2021

Something my mother used to say about jumping off a bridge comes to mind. But she stopped having to say it when I became an adult.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
51. Wow? Kicking money to a couple of Democrats is horrible? Sorry, I don't hate people who
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:28 PM
May 2021

don't adore who I adore. It's such a waste of time.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
54. Giving money to Nina Turner isn't "kicking money to a Democrat"
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:35 PM
May 2021

The problem isn't that anyone hates her. The problem is that she hates Democrats.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
59. She's running in a primary as a Democrat. Katie Porter endorsed her. I'm good with that
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:43 PM
May 2021

We need all the Democrats we can get.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
60. Running as a Democrat doesn't make one a Democrat
Tue May 25, 2021, 06:46 PM
May 2021

And her past behavior and comments, including her hateful attacks on Joe Biden are complete disqualifiers for me - especially since she's running against a strong Democrat without that baggage. I don't trust her any further than I can throw her - I don't care what Katie Porter says.

onenote

(43,426 posts)
76. Read post number 66 and then get back to us about how Turner is running as a Democrat.
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:50 PM
May 2021

Don't be fooled by her. She's doesn't want to be a Democrat. And she isn't one.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
105. She's running in the primary as a Democrat. I'm not fooled by anyone and she's more of a Democrat
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:30 AM
May 2021

than a couple of them.

sheshe2

(85,091 posts)
79. Autumn.
Tue May 25, 2021, 09:36 PM
May 2021

You can't run in a Democratic party without registering as a Democrat. This does not mean she won't run as the Peoples Party or some such once elected.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
113. Totaly the opposite of what your mother used to say.
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:43 AM
May 2021

rofl: I'm not jumping off a bridge, I'm going to support a couple of Democrats. Like it or not Katie Porter is a Democrat, so is Nina Turner. Personaly the concept of hating someone I don't know is a foreign concept to me, yet many do. I trust Katie Porter's judgment. But I am petty enough that based on the people dragging on her now who adored her before she actualy did what she thought was best to do.

I'm a big fan of schadenfreude. And I might OD on it today

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
119. You are supporting only one Democrat, not two
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:07 PM
May 2021

The other person you are supporting is not a Democrat. She is a person who has been openly hostile to Democrats and has worked against us but is running in the Democratic primary AGAINST a Democrat.

It's funny that you referred to "hating someone you don't know." I never said anything about hate. I just pointed out that you have decided to support someone in a race you probably know very little about because one person you like supports them without having a clue about the person she's running against or whether she'd be better than the candidate you've decided to send money to.

And then you bragged about it as if that's something to be proud of instead of something representative of the kind of lemming-like behavior we laugh at when engaged in by clueless, uniformed people on the other side.

Fortunately, Democrats in Cleveland are more discerning and aren't likely to be fooled into supporting the opportunist in Democratic clothing solely because a Congresswoman from California likes her for some reason.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
128. I find it confusing that people are questioning her judgement
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:43 PM
May 2021

or flat out saying she doesn't have their support anymore. I stand with Katie.

sheshe2

(85,091 posts)
253. Short reference to Katie of her qualifications.
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:49 PM
May 2021
Katie Porter is a law professor

She is amazing


Me, I have been very impressed with Katie. Here I think she made a misstep.

Now please give a more rounded example of Nina's qualifications. I await your long list of accomplishments.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
254. I trust Porters judgment I like Progressives and I prefer Nina to Brown.
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:57 PM
May 2021

Since both are Dems I will support and donate to the one I prefer and that's the one Katie Porter endorsed.

No need to wait she, you will be waiting a long, long time.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
262. What aspect of Shontel's platform do you believe Nina is better on?
Thu May 27, 2021, 08:58 PM
May 2021

Compare and contrast. Please be specific.

womanofthehills

(9,012 posts)
88. I'm going to kick some over to Nina too
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:33 AM
May 2021

She can join the squad. We need more progressives in Congress. Actually, Brown is way way behind in fundraising. I myself prefer a candidate who will fight for Medicare for all and the Green New Deal. I’m also definitely not into a pro-Israel candidate.


Autumn

(45,504 posts)
108. Same here. How things change, I was told last week by a guy that Katie Porter
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:57 AM
May 2021

is so much better her job than AOC because she's not a progressive. I should ask him what he think now huh. I started paying attention to her .

maliaSmith

(80 posts)
49. Dissapointed Katie Porter endorsed Nina Turner.
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:22 PM
May 2021

So disgusted that Katie Porter, a woman I have a lot of respect for, endorsed Nina Turner. Nina is full of hate for most Democrats including President Biden and most eveyone else except Bernie.
If I could vote in Ohio election, I would never vote for her. Come on Katie. What's going on in your mind to endorse that woman.

Cha

(300,762 posts)
63. Shontel Brown is Progressive
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:01 PM
May 2021

and didn't say ".. Voting for Pres Biden is like eating shit.." like nina turner did on July 28, 2020..

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,115 posts)
151. Your evidence (the upteenth posting of the "eating shit" quotation) doesn't support your claim.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:07 PM
May 2021

What does something that Turner said have to do with Brown being a progressive?

And, on point, Do progressives support Israel in what they are doing with their bombings and not support MFA? Because Brown might want to check their notes on what they support if they are going to try to claim to be progressive.

Cha

(300,762 posts)
191. Nina Turner was so Wrong
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:33 PM
May 2021
to say ... "..voting for Biden is like eating shit."

That's Not "progressive".

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,115 posts)
220. What she said about Biden has no impact on her progressive policy support.
Thu May 27, 2021, 08:54 AM
May 2021

Was it a good thing to say? No. Does her saying it mean she isn't progressive? Also no. Also a non sequitur.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
224. I want a real Democrat to be the nominee and not someone who hates the party
Thu May 27, 2021, 09:24 AM
May 2021

I would prefer that a real Democrat be the party’s nominee and not a Just Us Democrat/third party founder who campaigned for and voted for Jill Stein. Merely being a progressive does not mean that Nina would represent this district. Nina is a founding member of that populist third party and is not loyal to the Democratic Party

Nina is running to be the nominee of the DEMOCRATIC Party and not her populist part.y or the Just Us Democrats. I do not trust Just Us Democrats

Cha

(300,762 posts)
240. I don't see anything "progressive" about
Thu May 27, 2021, 03:25 PM
May 2021

her.. that's just a label.

She's Divisive.. trying to start a 3rd party right before the most important election of our lifetime.

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-is-in/

Hey Nina .. We "Give A Shit about People" and so does President Joe Biden! If you would pay attention.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,115 posts)
272. For whom?
Sat May 29, 2021, 10:19 AM
May 2021

The progressives voted for Biden. The Qanon right is NEVER going to vote for Biden or a Dem. You don't even need an ad for them. I don't think this gets the traction you think it will.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
273. For the GOP who want to suppress the vote of true or real Democrats
Sat May 29, 2021, 12:56 PM
May 2021

Russia used a number of tools in 2016 including promoting sanders to depress Democratic voter turnout. The release of the hacked emails and other materials by Russia/wikileakes helped depress turnout or to help Jill Stein. The GOP will use this material if Nina is the nominee to depress the turnout of normal or regular democrats.

A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for trump. Nina helped to elect trump in 2016 by campaigning for and voting for Stein

Just Us Democrats are only able to win in deep blue districts and cannot win in competitive districts. The GOP will be able to use these materials to make this race very competitive if Nina is the nominee

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
277. But her working to throw government to conservative ANTI-progressives
Sun May 30, 2021, 01:17 PM
May 2021

in 2016 had huge impact we're still in great danger from. There's a tremendous dissonance between what she said she's for and what she did. She flipped from supporting progressive policies to actively helping to defeat the party determined to enact those policies and elect those who promised to destroy them.

Now she insists she's back to supporting, but she still shows all the same signs and behaviors of 2015-2020.

Instability of purpose and extreme, dysfunctional reactions are a common pattern on the far left and right.

Also extremely common is turning and attacking their own ideological ankle when it offends them. That's why that third party they're trying to form will eventually self destruct even if they briefly get it off the ground, as has happened a few times over the past century.

uponit7771

(90,626 posts)
65. Love me some Katie but Nina isn't a person I would want to associate with. She's the very example
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:08 PM
May 2021

... of letting perfect or good be the enemy of adequate and then not live up to her own purity metrics.

George II

(67,782 posts)
66. In her announcement email, Nina Turner said "our People's Party isn't registered in Ohio yet, so....
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:12 PM
May 2021

....I'm going to HAVE to run for the Democratic nomination" (highlighting is mine)

So she's reluctantly running as a Democrat, she'd much rather run under her own party.

I wonder if Katie Porter was aware of Turner's characterization of Joe Biden, now PRESIDENT Biden, as a half-bowl of shit?

BannonsLiver

(17,096 posts)
70. How long does it take to register a party?
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:27 PM
May 2021

They have several years. Even the Green Party imbeciles/nut jobs manage to get on the ballot most places. I’m not sure the Peoples Party could organize a trip to the mailbox at this point.

George II

(67,782 posts)
72. Joe Lieberman, after he lost the Democratic Senate primary in Connecticut to Ned Lamont in 2006.....
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:33 PM
May 2021

....registered his "Connecticut for Lieberman" party in a matter of a few weeks.

But it takes signatures on a petition. If Turner couldn't get enough signatures to register a party, how will she do against the highly accomplished and capable Shontel Brown?

betsuni

(26,602 posts)
84. I have a feeling she really does think we're too stupid to remember anything about her.
Tue May 25, 2021, 11:39 PM
May 2021

After all, we were too stupid to see that the Democratic Party is so evil and corrupt that Jill Stein was the only choice in 2016, and in 2020 is a bowl of shit.

I still snicker at the big fuss she made about being "seduced by donuts and water" by the DNC.

Cha

(300,762 posts)
200. Yes, HUD Sec Marcia Fudge, who
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:17 PM
May 2021

is loved and respected by OH District 11 endorsing Shontle Brown will be Awesome!

Democratic Party and serves on the County Council.

Over the last 10 years, Shontel Brown has developed a personal and professional rapport with Congresswoman Marcia Fudge. Through this relationship, Shontel has developed strong Democratic values and thoroughly understands the history and needs of the 11th Congressional District.



https://shontelbrown.com/

betsuni

(26,602 posts)
197. Running as a "moderate Democrat" means she can't call Democrats neoliberal bowls of shit anymore.
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:58 PM
May 2021

One would think.

Cha

(300,762 posts)
201. Yes, So Divisive like
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:28 PM
May 2021

starting a 3rd Party right before the Most Important Election in History!

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-is-in/

Hey Nina .. We "Give A Shit about People" and so does President Joe Biden! If you would pay attention.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
208. Do you have any evidence that Nina has apologized for her attacks on the party?
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:42 PM
May 2021

Has Nina apologized for campaigning and voting for Jill Stein? Has Nina apologized hor her rants about voting for the clear winner of the Democratic nomination being like eating shit? Why should actual members of the Democratic Party vote for someone who helped the former guy win in 2016 and who attacked out nominee in 2020?

BTW why should someone who is a founding member of a third party and who is a member of the Just Us Democrats be the nominee of the party? Should the nominee of the party be a real member of the Democratic Party?

OnDoutside

(20,191 posts)
93. "No more lousy peace. We can both slay the Neofascist. Slay the Neoliberal... So, yeah, this is Revo
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:51 AM
May 2021

lution Time."

A-a--a-a-lrighty .....

sheshe2

(85,091 posts)
192. She is advocating killing people.
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:34 PM
May 2021
"No more lousy peace. We can both slay the Neofascist. Slay the Neoliberal... So, yeah, this is Revo

slay:

kill (a person or animal) in a violent way

We don't need this kind of rhetoric in our congress. She may be running as a Dem...the only way she can run in our primary for money and media. She has said outright that she is not a Dem and voted Jill Stein. She claims The new Peoples Party as her own.

This is not who we are, so much explosive anger is not healthy for this nation.

betsuni

(26,602 posts)
195. But I see people saying that people change and what was said last year is "ancient history."
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:53 PM
May 2021

Hilarious! Like saying the Jan. 6 attack on the capitol was just what tourists usually do.

Also hilarious is how someone who promoted Jill Stein and helped form a new third party and called Job Biden a bowl of shit, refused to vote for the Democratic presidential candidates because they're just as bad as Republicans, is now a nice regular Democrat. Still don't know what the hell is "neoliberal" about the Democratic Party.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
147. I don't work for Katie Porter. I simply like her. You can ask her.
Wed May 26, 2021, 03:20 PM
May 2021

But I would think that as smart as Katie Porter, she's a law professor you know, she would have done her homework. She kills when she's going after Republicans.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
155. I lost all respect for Porter when I found that she is a Just Us Democrat
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:37 PM
May 2021

This endorsement is a bad move by Porter


Autumn

(45,504 posts)
158. Just like you, Katie Porter has the right to support, or not support whomever she wants to.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:42 PM
May 2021

I have found when some people hate certain groups or consider them to be horrible, like the Justice Democrats, I give them a second look and see where they are coming from and I usualy find domething they have done that is good. Kind of like we do with conservative Democrats from red states.



LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
164. What has the Just Us Democrats done that is positive?
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:53 PM
May 2021

I am on the Just Us Democrat mailing list and their emails are extremely sad. These emails are so bad that they are funny I was glad the Just Us dem lost her primary in Texas because she would lost if she was the general election candidate. Again theJust Us Democrats daily emails are so bad that they are funny.

Tina voted and campaigned for Jill Stein and attacked Joe Biden after Joe easily won the nomination. Porter support of turner is a bad move.

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
167. Maybe check the spelling? I also like Jamaal Bowman.
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:56 PM
May 2021

I stand with Katie Porter. Justice Democrats also supported Neera Tanden for OMB director

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LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
209. I am willing to wait for this answer
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:44 PM
May 2021

The emails from the Just Us Democrats list no accomplishments. Why should any real Democrat vote for the Just Us Democrats?

betsuni

(26,602 posts)
169. Nina's been a superdelegate, lobbyist, now Democrat (establishment): things she's been demonizing
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:58 PM
May 2021

for years. And PACs. But money in politics (status quo) and being establishment and so on is different if it's you (the pure and self-righteous).

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
257. You don't know how to use Google Let My People Vote? I'm not clicking on your link
Thu May 27, 2021, 07:27 PM
May 2021

Go find someone else to harass You are going through my posts here and responding to them, sometimes twice. That's so silly and petty. You are not winning me over to Brown's side, I will support the Democrat of my choice.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
258. LOL
Thu May 27, 2021, 07:36 PM
May 2021

So Nina either was not invited or decided that she would not attend an event with the most popular person in the Democratic Party

Autumn

(45,504 posts)
259. I told you I'm not clicking your link. I'm not your information booth and if you know the answer to
Thu May 27, 2021, 07:40 PM
May 2021

your question, which I'm sure you do, you are just trolling. Now I'm going to put you back on ignore.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,337 posts)
263. How will a non-member of the party hope to win a special election contest w/o help from Biden?
Thu May 27, 2021, 10:05 PM
May 2021

The thesis/premise of this thread is that contrary to all evidence, Nina is supposed to be a member of the Democratic Party solely based on the endorsement of another member of the Just Us Democrat faction. If Nina become the nominee of the party, she will need help from Biden and the party to win a general election contest in a special election contest. You do understand that special elections are low turnout elections and a candidate who is not on good terms with the most popular member of the party will have issues winning a special election in the real world.

I have a feeling that the nominee of the party will be better off having Joe Biden campaign for her compared to having a Just Us Democrat from California campaigning for her.

It is important that we win this special election and I hope that our nominee will be able to campaign with help from the party and not rely solely on Just Us Democrats.

George II

(67,782 posts)
264. Methinks she's a reluctant "Democrat"....
Thu May 27, 2021, 10:43 PM
May 2021
It’s official! Sen. Nina Turner is running for Congress. She’s running for the seat vacated by Rep. Marcia Fudge, who Joe Biden has chosen as secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The People’s Party isn’t on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat, but we can’t think of anyone better to win that seat and bring a friend of the People’s Party to Congress.


https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-congress/

So apparently she's not interested in bringing a DEMOCRAT to Congress, but a "friend of the People's Party"!!!

On the other hand we have the most accomplished Democrat who DID attend the event today:


George II

(67,782 posts)
154. Wasn't that back when Porter tried to get Maxine Waters' Financial Services Committee downgraded....
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:27 PM
May 2021

...so she could serve on that committee and two other committees?

womanofthehills

(9,012 posts)
127. So, Katie needs to support the pro Israel candidate
Wed May 26, 2021, 12:42 PM
May 2021

And the candidate who is lukewarm on Medicare for all????

George II

(67,782 posts)
157. There is MUCH more to Shontel Brown than her support of Israel. But what's wrong with....
Wed May 26, 2021, 04:39 PM
May 2021

....supporting Israel?

Cha

(300,762 posts)
190. You mean like Nina say8ing "Voting for Biden
Wed May 26, 2021, 06:47 PM
May 2021
is like eating shit.."?

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

Turner was so Wrong.







sheshe2

(85,091 posts)
210. I have noticed no one ever bothers to answer your question.
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:44 PM
May 2021

They never bother to hold her responsible for that vicious statement, Cha.

betsuni

(26,602 posts)
217. Comparing eating shit to voting for Trump, yes. Republicans did that.
Thu May 27, 2021, 05:46 AM
May 2021

Voting for a Democrat? For Joe Biden? Even more moronic than "lesser of two evils." Conspiracy theories and massive stupidity.

Sunsky

(1,835 posts)
101. I thought Katie Porter had good judgment
Wed May 26, 2021, 06:58 AM
May 2021

She is certainly not displaying it here. Nina Turner can herself go eat sh*t. She is not a Democrat. I hate when people use the party name for their own political gain. She has on multiple occasions, voted against and encourage others to vote against Democratic candidates. What is Katie Porter thinking? Turner seems to be a selfish person who lashes out if things do not go her way. If we were all like Nina Turner, there'd still be a President Trump.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,115 posts)
109. So Porter likes the more progressive candidate. Who would have thought?
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:18 AM
May 2021

Oh, yeah, that actually makes sense.

Plus, all the people in here that are on the Turner hate train would 100% have jumped on Turned if she made the "sanity" comment, but somehow it seems to get a pass from most everyone here.

George II

(67,782 posts)
234. She certainly is. She's also the one who grudgingly said she "had" to run as a Democrat because....
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:35 PM
May 2021

....her people's party wasn't registered in Ohio yet.

Yeah, that's the kind of Democrat we need in the House.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,115 posts)
235. You going to tell Porter to take a seat?
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:38 PM
May 2021

And I'm not planning to take a seat. Unless you were somehow recently made the internet monitor.

sheshe2

(85,091 posts)
265. We already have Greene on the far right spewing filth.
Fri May 28, 2021, 12:06 AM
May 2021

We do not need a candidate that likens voting for Biden to eating a bowl of shit. Do we? Do we need this in congress? Do we? The answer should be No. Hell No.

This is not who we are or where we wish to go moving forward. I love Katie. However she made a huge mistake endorsing this divisive figure who by her own words is only running as a Dem because her party, The Peoples Party is not on the ballot. THESE ARE HER OWN WORDS.

sheshe2

(85,091 posts)
275. I don't believe Nina is...
Sat May 29, 2021, 04:58 PM
May 2021

I don't believe Nina is the 'entire progressive wing of the party' and I made no such comparison. I was speaking about one person and one person only...that would be Nina.

If you are okay with her words about our Democratically elected President, then by all means throw your support behind her.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,325 posts)
274. Ding! Ding! Ding! My thoughts exactly. I can envision Turner being a very divisive figure....
Sat May 29, 2021, 04:21 PM
May 2021

within the party. She's made quite clear, over the years, just how she feels about the Democratic party. I hope she is soundly defeated by Shontel, so that she finally gets the message that we don't care for her any more than she cares for us.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
132. As I drive around my NE Ohio neighborhood I see several Nina Turner yard signs