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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWow, pretty heavy. Jill Biden once said Kamala Harris could go "go fuck yourself?"
After debate.
Evidently NOT denied by WH office. But good news...they decided to move way beyond the episode. Obviously if Joe picked Kamala! Bygones we all understood.
Still pretty fascinating to me how people can just get over stuff in the political world.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/jill-biden-kamala-harris-moved-on-after-presidential-debate-2021-5%3famp
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)The MSM will probably not let this go. Theyre so used to the reality shit show we endured the last 4+ years...they need gossip and drama. I hope team FLOTUS and team VP can successfully pivot off this.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)And not talking just this incident.. but Former Guy's victims as well... How in the world can a person just ignore all the bad things another said about them and move on. Gives politics a bad name? ( Did it ever have a good one) ? No.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)If they havent, count on it bubbling to the surface at some point. Politics is a dirty business and getting dirtier by the day...at minimum it is performance art.
RegularJam
(914 posts)And I didnt like how Harris handled that episode.
I also dont think this would bother Harris.
I have people I consider close friends today who have not just said, but done bad things to me.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Boydog
(718 posts)Way too many candidates in the ring. All were trying to get a zinger.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)had basis and I think Biden heard it, especially after reflecting. An important moment and glad everyone seems to have moved on.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)he appear to be trying to rectify that now?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)were implying that Biden has since changed his view on bussing because of the debate.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)he has come to a different understanding about what bussing ment for at least some of the children involved. I bet he wouldn't make this statement today:
I do not buy the concept, popular in the 60s, which said, We have suppressed the black man for 300 years and the white man is now far ahead in the race for everything our society offers. In order to even the score, we must now give the black man a head start, or even hold the white man back, to even the race, Biden told a Delaware-based weekly newspaper in 1975. I dont buy that.
Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)Absolutely no reason to care about this.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)MerryHolidays
(7,715 posts)They don't, and I don't.
Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)Not the book
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)PortTack
(32,762 posts)ItsjustMe
(11,230 posts)Video
A new book by reporter Edward Isaac-Dovere discusses the fallout after Kamala Harris confronted Joe Biden over his record on bussing at a 2020 Democratic debate.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017657849
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ItsjustMe
(11,230 posts)I just thought that others here would be Interested In viewing the CNN video.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)I wonder who overheard it and thought they should spill the beans? I wonder what their motive is in doing so?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)thing. He also wrote that President Obama is a parasite
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/obama-described-book-apos-parasite-072022541.html
and was right out there tweeting about Tara Reade
Not sure if I would trust his credibility
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Actually makes me like Jill more.. she's got chutzpah
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)and well
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)PatSeg
(47,419 posts)And I wasn't the only one. I'm sure many people were muttering something profane at the time. Of course, I got over it and Kamala Harris became my first choice for a VP pick before Biden officially chose her. I put it down to a rookie mistake. We see a lot of that during primaries.
I know Joe was hurt by her comments at the time, especially being Harris was a good friend of Beau's, but he is a forgiving man and has made more than his fair share of rookie mistakes as well. Part of what makes him a good president is he can rise above such moments and see beyond one political mishap. Just imagine what kind of loyalty he must inspire.
JI7
(89,248 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)maxrandb
(15,324 posts)Marcuse
(7,479 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)Not sure why you posted this.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)It all. I happen to find this interesting for a variety of reasons.
Maxheader
(4,373 posts)I've told best friends that ...
And they've told me that....
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Remember when Kamala attacked Joe directly during one of the Democratic debates?
It happened when all 12 of them were vying for the Democratic nomination, so Kamala was looking to make points off Joe's senior statesmanship.
He handled it OK, but I guess Jill wasn't too happy.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)but the strong reaction. She's spunkier than I thought and I like it!
Personally really don't like when someone digs way way back in time to come up with an attack. Only because it's impossible for anyone to see the past through the lens of today.
Like on bussing, I have vague recollections of feeling sorry for the kids... That it was obvious people were saying your school/ neighborhood wasn't as good as the one you're going to. Stigma. And felt sorry because they had to get up so early. Never even knew people now thought it was great until Kamala.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)Booker or Castro? I can't remember, but I bet Biden does.
Besides, who cares? I've told all of my best friends to go fuck themselves atleast 5 or 6 times each.
helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)see another viable option as VP. She was the best choice.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Make me wonder tho. Is it now the generally accepted belief in retrospect that bussing was a great idea? Or was it just Kamala's personal experience.?
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)It more than any issue created the backlash in the south against the Democratic Party.
I was bussed. I lived the nightmare.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Kamala telling Joe that he was wrong to not support bussing? That it personally helped her is all I know.
Like I posted before... In my recollection it was demeaning and we felt sorry for those kids.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)It was a disappointing tactical/political move on Harris's part in that debate, imo.
If he was a Republican, well hell that might have been quite a different matter, though the same reaction from the spouse of the target should be expected.