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In Salt Lake City, a man scratched a swastika into the front door of an Orthodox synagogue in the early morning hours of May 16. This was the kind of thing that would never happen in Salt Lake City, said Rabbi Avremi Zippel, whose parents founded Chabad Lubavitch of Utah almost 30 years ago. But its on the rise around the country.
The synagogue has fortified its already substantial security measures in response. Its ridiculous, its insane that this is how we have to view houses of worship in the United States in 2021, Zippel said, describing fortified access points, visible guards and lighting and security camera systems. But we will do it.
Even Gabby Giffords' synagogue here in Tucson was vandalized. I'm Jewish and my wife is Chinese. We both are now under immense threat here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-faces-outbreak-anti-semitic-114829994.html
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)nycbos
(6,034 posts)Antisemitism unites the far right and far left.
11cents
(1,777 posts)Not all, not even most, of the violent attacks over the last few weeks were perpetrated by Trump supporters.
The left blaming the right/the right blaming the left is the way both sides enable antisemitism. Not being willing to confront your own side = not giving a fuck. And that's the message we're getting.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,689 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,689 posts)I wasn't disagreeing with your point, just presenting.
I'm Jewish. Why would I validate the "both sides-ism?" Most comes from one side. I don't see the left holding tiki torches screaming "The Jews won't replace us."
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)... enacting the anti-semitic slurs, threats, and violence. I don't have statistical evidence that they are either, but a strong intuition.
But the poster did write "last few weeks" and "not even most" (less than 50%), as if they had some statistical evidence. Would be good to know either way because it is a problem that needs to be sat upon, heavily, and squelched hard.
11cents
(1,777 posts)This is public information, so intuition is not needed. Just look at the descriptions of those attacks, as reported in the media. And in a few cases, look at who has been arrested. People waving Palestinian flags, chanting pro-Palestinian slogans, in one case trying to force their victim to chant those slogans. I assume you're not going to claim these people might have been white supremacists in drag, because that's MAGA brainscape shit. Has there been any violent attack or threat of imminent violence (such as shouted slurs, physical intimidation) that can be definitely traced to the right? Swastika daubing and the like -- yes, probably white supremacists, but also nothing new. What's been happening recently is.
Let the squelching begin -- please.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)the skinheads, Prom Boys and white nationalists -- haven't previously been know as ardent supporters of Palestinian rights.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Fascists here in the U.S. and around the world right now. No, Former Fascist Guy didn't start this but
he sure did normalize/inflame it. Hey Hey, Ho Ho, all these Fascists gotta go!
11cents
(1,777 posts)You get that Jews have been literally demonized since the beginning of the Christian era, and have been subject to regular slaughters/expulsions for the last 1000 years? And that political antisemitism has been in the "playbook" of the left since the 19th century? Marx was an antisemite. Yes he was Jewish, but he also breathed European air/European attitudes his whole life.
You know, no thinking white American with left/liberal views would claim to be immune to racism. If we're capable of self-examination, we know we grow up soaking in it. Yet non-Jewish left/liberals of all hues will unhesitatingly say that they're immune to antisemitism. They're also soaking in it -- but it's so deeply entrenched in Western culture that it's hard to detect if you're not a target of it.
And by and large I find that the general (non-Jewish) view of Jewish history is "Everything was fine ('cause Jews are all rich) -- then, uh-oh, Nazis! That was bad, but now everything is fine again except, uh-oh, there's still a few Nazis."
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)I know I have seen who is really against anti-Semitism, and who only pays lip-service when it suits them or when the aggressor is a political enemy.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)And there was an article about what's going on in Germany right now in the times may be a year or so ago made this exact point.
The right wing cared about anti-Semitism when the perpetrator was an immigrant from a Muslim country, and the wife cared about anti-Semitism when the perpetrator was a native born Nazi.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,689 posts)Brothers-and-sisters in arms together!
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Sadly, we, as Jews, need to close ranks. There are times when I hear or see someone condemning anti-Semitism and I hear or see an asterisk. That is to say, "Anti-Semitism is bad and wrong!*" The asterisk indicates there are conditions when the anti-Semitism isn't wrong, usually dependent on who the anti-Semite is. Sadly, this has also been true of some "condemning" anti-Asian bigotry.