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global1

(25,241 posts)
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:24 PM May 2021

Pelosi And The Dems Need To Strike Back Fast/Immediately.....

Don't pussyfoot around. Bipartisanship didn't work. Don't give them any breathing room.
Hit back immediately and put the Repugs on the defensive.

The Dems need to go it alone now.

Or the AG needs to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate.

Whichever path is taken - it can't be put on hold - it needs to move forward immediately.

The Dems, Schumer & Pelosi should have anticipated the Repugs vote today and had a contingency plan ready to go immediately after the vote for the commission failed.

I just can't understand why the Dems are not more proactive while they watch the Repugs methodically destroying our democracy.

I'll be very disappointed in the Dems if when they get back from this Memorial Day Holiday recess if they don't begin an investigation.

IMHO they should have laid out plans for such an investigation immediately today - after this vote failed. They knew that it would go down. They should have been ready.

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Pelosi And The Dems Need To Strike Back Fast/Immediately..... (Original Post) global1 May 2021 OP
come on, nancy! let's go! orleans May 2021 #1
THIS! debsy May 2021 #10
manchin was there today and voted with the dems. it was sinema who couldn't be bothered showing up orleans May 2021 #28
YES! Joinfortmill May 2021 #2
totally agree... bahboo May 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill May 2021 #9
Far too often the dems still don't seem to get the ignoramuses in today's GOP. The democrats RKP5637 May 2021 #4
Getting Republicans to vote against a bipartisan investigation is a good start. GoodRaisin May 2021 #5
Agree. Opens the door to "What are they hiding?"-type ads. Politicub May 2021 #19
On the Friday holiday news dump? It's all buried til next week bucolic_frolic May 2021 #6
Dems Waiting Until AFTER the Holiday Weekend NonPC May 2021 #18
That's wise, if that's their strategy. Qutzupalotl May 2021 #30
Based on this tweet she has already confirmed the go ahead Bev54 May 2021 #7
I think they have plenty of plans... stillcool May 2021 #8
I totally agree. Don't sit back and do nothing. We need to raise hell. FlyingPiggy May 2021 #11
They have completely abdicated their duty. Roll over them now.. They deserve zero respect. Evolve Dammit May 2021 #12
Yes! Pepsidog May 2021 #13
Strike now, take the narrative! BlueJac May 2021 #14
I don't think they should have released another plan today. RegularJam May 2021 #15
I'll bet good money that Madame Speaker has already planned for this Trailrider1951 May 2021 #16
I want you to be right. But I suspect that the original poster has a good point. Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #26
And every GQP legislator needs to be subpoenaed NQAS May 2021 #17
Right. Fucking. Now. SheltieLover May 2021 #20
+1 myohmy2 May 2021 #21
I really, really hate to say this . . . AverageOldGuy May 2021 #22
Where did the "overwhelming firepower" get us? former9thward May 2021 #29
Once again, she knows much more than you do. Nt USALiberal May 2021 #23
Oh. And it doesn't take a village? Nancy is impervious to influence? Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #25
Immediately? Nearly a half day has passed. Nada. Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #24
House and Senate are now out of session Action_Patrol May 2021 #27
The GQP (worse than ISIS) is going to delay until Dawson Leery May 2021 #31

orleans

(34,049 posts)
1. come on, nancy! let's go!
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:26 PM
May 2021

time to start up that select committee where dems will have full subpoena power that republicans can't even object to. come on, nancy! let's go!



debsy

(530 posts)
10. THIS!
Fri May 28, 2021, 06:36 PM
May 2021

And would somebody get Joe Manchin on board, for once and for all? WTH is his problem? The rethugs are going to continue doing what they did to Obama. We certainly don't need one of the Dem senators being complicit in their crimes against us all!

orleans

(34,049 posts)
28. manchin was there today and voted with the dems. it was sinema who couldn't be bothered showing up
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:15 PM
May 2021

BUT back in the heyday of 2014 she broke with dems to vote for that bullshit benghazi crap
"Only seven Democrats "broke ranks" to vote with the majority party to establish the select committee: Ron Barber of Arizona, John Barrow of Georgia, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, Patrick Murphy of Florida, Collin Peterson of Minnesota, Nick Rahall of West Virginia, and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Benghazi#:~:text=Only%20seven%20Democrats%20%22broke%20ranks,and%20Kyrsten%20Sinema%20of%20Arizona.

Response to bahboo (Reply #3)

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
4. Far too often the dems still don't seem to get the ignoramuses in today's GOP. The democrats
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:32 PM
May 2021

approach it as gentlemen/women and the GOP approach it prepared to stab the dems in the back. For the most part, today's GOP is really more of a domestic terrorist party than a political party of the past.


GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
5. Getting Republicans to vote against a bipartisan investigation is a good start.
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:41 PM
May 2021

It's tantamount to an admission of their own guilt. We already have this to hang on their candidates in 2022. I would naturally expect an investigation to follow after today's vote.

Nobody ever thought that Republicans would have agreed to do this. Nancy made them show their hand.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
19. Agree. Opens the door to "What are they hiding?"-type ads.
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:13 PM
May 2021

Petards and hoists ripe for the picking.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
6. On the Friday holiday news dump? It's all buried til next week
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:43 PM
May 2021

Republican insurrectionists ignore Jan 6? We should ignore Republican insurrectionists.

I agree with you. Find a way to name a commission, same goal, in another theater. Could be House, could be DOJ.

I advise us to keep mentioning "insurrection". Don't let it be a riot. These are insurrectionists who committed sedition and perhaps, some of them, treason. They had leaders who organized and paid for it.

NonPC

(301 posts)
18. Dems Waiting Until AFTER the Holiday Weekend
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:02 PM
May 2021

Nancy and crew are going to wait until at least Tuesday to announce something. Everyone just keep your underwear on.

Qutzupalotl

(14,301 posts)
30. That's wise, if that's their strategy.
Sat May 29, 2021, 12:26 PM
May 2021

It seems the media and therefore the public can only accept a single factual development in a given news cycle.

We've learned that Republicans won't vote for even a watered-down commission. Okay; let that percolate and generate outrage. Then we'll have even more public support when we launch a House investigation.

The delay in waiting at least one news cycle makes it abundantly clear that we extended a hand of bipartisanship, only to have it slapped away — again.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
8. I think they have plenty of plans...
Fri May 28, 2021, 06:17 PM
May 2021

and are more than ready. Just because they don't announce their plans, that doesn't mean they don't have any. Making the Republicans fold, seems to be a smart move, but I don't understand why Republicans would not want to try and sabotage the investigation, from the inside.

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
15. I don't think they should have released another plan today.
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:12 PM
May 2021

It would be a complete lost opportunity. A lot of the news going into the holiday weekend will be about Republicans blocking it. That’s a win for us. Our members need to take the next couple of days blanketing the networks and hammering Republicans.

They do need to outline their next steps publicly on Tuesday. I will not be happy if they don’t.

If we are winning the narrative and can extend the next step, even if only days, it’s a win win for us.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
16. I'll bet good money that Madame Speaker has already planned for this
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:15 PM
May 2021

I'm sure she has a detailed contingency plan, and has chosen the leaders she needs. Those two impeachment hearings taught us that. Ms. Pelosi is the right person for this time.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
26. I want you to be right. But I suspect that the original poster has a good point.
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:24 PM
May 2021

Now is the time for expediency.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
17. And every GQP legislator needs to be subpoenaed
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:40 PM
May 2021

Document. Phone records. Emails. Non-stop. 12 hours a day.

AverageOldGuy

(1,523 posts)
22. I really, really hate to say this . . .
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:18 PM
May 2021

. . . and I hope I'm wrong.

But -- we Democrats have a habit of taking a bouquet of roses to a gunfight. The GOP rejection of the commission -- and their coming rejection of the entire Biden agenda -- requires us to engage in a gunfight -- call in heavy artillery; air support with napalm, turn Congressional Republicans into crispy critters; then, sweep the battlefield and shoot the wounded.

But we won't do it. We will just wring our hands and whimper about bipartisanship.

Of course, my mind was twisted by my two tours in the bush in Vietnam where we practiced bipartisanship by employing overwhelming firepower.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
25. Oh. And it doesn't take a village? Nancy is impervious to influence?
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:23 PM
May 2021

Nancy never loses perspective?

Nancy may know more, but that doesn't mean that she makes the best decisions every time.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
24. Immediately? Nearly a half day has passed. Nada.
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:21 PM
May 2021

Where are the ducks that need to be lined up in a row? Why are they so hard to find? And why haven't they already been lined up IN ANTICIPATION OF THE INEVITABLE?

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
27. House and Senate are now out of session
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:25 PM
May 2021

Nothing happens quickly. Both chambers are adjourned there’s nothing to be said or done until they return.

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