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Fri May 28, 2021, 04:24 PM

Pelosi And The Dems Need To Strike Back Fast/Immediately.....

Don't pussyfoot around. Bipartisanship didn't work. Don't give them any breathing room.
Hit back immediately and put the Repugs on the defensive.

The Dems need to go it alone now.

Or the AG needs to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate.

Whichever path is taken - it can't be put on hold - it needs to move forward immediately.

The Dems, Schumer & Pelosi should have anticipated the Repugs vote today and had a contingency plan ready to go immediately after the vote for the commission failed.

I just can't understand why the Dems are not more proactive while they watch the Repugs methodically destroying our democracy.

I'll be very disappointed in the Dems if when they get back from this Memorial Day Holiday recess if they don't begin an investigation.

IMHO they should have laid out plans for such an investigation immediately today - after this vote failed. They knew that it would go down. They should have been ready.

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Reply Pelosi And The Dems Need To Strike Back Fast/Immediately..... (Original post)
global1 May 2021 OP
orleans May 2021 #1
debsy May 2021 #10
orleans May 2021 #28
Joinfortmill May 2021 #2
bahboo May 2021 #3
hamsterjill May 2021 #9
RKP5637 May 2021 #4
GoodRaisin May 2021 #5
Politicub May 2021 #19
bucolic_frolic May 2021 #6
NonPC May 2021 #18
Qutzupalotl May 2021 #30
Bev54 May 2021 #7
stillcool May 2021 #8
FlyingPiggy May 2021 #11
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #12
Pepsidog May 2021 #13
BlueJac May 2021 #14
RegularJam May 2021 #15
Trailrider1951 May 2021 #16
Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #26
NQAS May 2021 #17
SheltieLover May 2021 #20
myohmy2 May 2021 #21
AverageOldGuy May 2021 #22
former9thward May 2021 #29
USALiberal May 2021 #23
Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #25
Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #24
Action_Patrol May 2021 #27
Dawson Leery May 2021 #31

Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 04:26 PM

1. come on, nancy! let's go!

time to start up that select committee where dems will have full subpoena power that republicans can't even object to. come on, nancy! let's go!


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Response to orleans (Reply #1)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:36 PM

10. THIS!

And would somebody get Joe Manchin on board, for once and for all? WTH is his problem? The rethugs are going to continue doing what they did to Obama. We certainly don't need one of the Dem senators being complicit in their crimes against us all!

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Response to debsy (Reply #10)

Fri May 28, 2021, 08:15 PM

28. manchin was there today and voted with the dems. it was sinema who couldn't be bothered showing up

BUT back in the heyday of 2014 she broke with dems to vote for that bullshit benghazi crap
"Only seven Democrats "broke ranks" to vote with the majority party to establish the select committee: Ron Barber of Arizona, John Barrow of Georgia, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, Patrick Murphy of Florida, Collin Peterson of Minnesota, Nick Rahall of West Virginia, and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Benghazi#:~:text=Only%20seven%20Democrats%20%22broke%20ranks,and%20Kyrsten%20Sinema%20of%20Arizona.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 04:26 PM

2. YES!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 04:29 PM

3. totally agree...

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 04:32 PM

4. Far too often the dems still don't seem to get the ignoramuses in today's GOP. The democrats

approach it as gentlemen/women and the GOP approach it prepared to stab the dems in the back. For the most part, today's GOP is really more of a domestic terrorist party than a political party of the past.


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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 04:41 PM

5. Getting Republicans to vote against a bipartisan investigation is a good start.

It's tantamount to an admission of their own guilt. We already have this to hang on their candidates in 2022. I would naturally expect an investigation to follow after today's vote.

Nobody ever thought that Republicans would have agreed to do this. Nancy made them show their hand.

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #5)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:13 PM

19. Agree. Opens the door to "What are they hiding?"-type ads.

Petards and hoists ripe for the picking.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 04:43 PM

6. On the Friday holiday news dump? It's all buried til next week

Republican insurrectionists ignore Jan 6? We should ignore Republican insurrectionists.

I agree with you. Find a way to name a commission, same goal, in another theater. Could be House, could be DOJ.

I advise us to keep mentioning "insurrection". Don't let it be a riot. These are insurrectionists who committed sedition and perhaps, some of them, treason. They had leaders who organized and paid for it.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #6)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:02 PM

18. Dems Waiting Until AFTER the Holiday Weekend

Nancy and crew are going to wait until at least Tuesday to announce something. Everyone just keep your underwear on.

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Response to NonPC (Reply #18)

Sat May 29, 2021, 11:26 AM

30. That's wise, if that's their strategy.

It seems the media and therefore the public can only accept a single factual development in a given news cycle.

We've learned that Republicans won't vote for even a watered-down commission. Okay; let that percolate and generate outrage. Then we'll have even more public support when we launch a House investigation.

The delay in waiting at least one news cycle makes it abundantly clear that we extended a hand of bipartisanship, only to have it slapped away ó again.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:05 PM

7. Based on this tweet she has already confirmed the go ahead

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:17 PM

8. I think they have plenty of plans...

and are more than ready. Just because they don't announce their plans, that doesn't mean they don't have any. Making the Republicans fold, seems to be a smart move, but I don't understand why Republicans would not want to try and sabotage the investigation, from the inside.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:36 PM

11. I totally agree. Don't sit back and do nothing. We need to raise hell.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 05:49 PM

12. They have completely abdicated their duty. Roll over them now.. They deserve zero respect.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:01 PM

13. Yes!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:11 PM

14. Strike now, take the narrative!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:12 PM

15. I don't think they should have released another plan today.

 

It would be a complete lost opportunity. A lot of the news going into the holiday weekend will be about Republicans blocking it. Thatís a win for us. Our members need to take the next couple of days blanketing the networks and hammering Republicans.

They do need to outline their next steps publicly on Tuesday. I will not be happy if they donít.

If we are winning the narrative and can extend the next step, even if only days, itís a win win for us.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:15 PM

16. I'll bet good money that Madame Speaker has already planned for this

I'm sure she has a detailed contingency plan, and has chosen the leaders she needs. Those two impeachment hearings taught us that. Ms. Pelosi is the right person for this time.

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Response to Trailrider1951 (Reply #16)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:24 PM

26. I want you to be right. But I suspect that the original poster has a good point.

Now is the time for expediency.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 06:40 PM

17. And every GQP legislator needs to be subpoenaed

Document. Phone records. Emails. Non-stop. 12 hours a day.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:16 PM

20. Right. Fucking. Now.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:18 PM

21. +1

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:18 PM

22. I really, really hate to say this . . .

. . . and I hope I'm wrong.

But -- we Democrats have a habit of taking a bouquet of roses to a gunfight. The GOP rejection of the commission -- and their coming rejection of the entire Biden agenda -- requires us to engage in a gunfight -- call in heavy artillery; air support with napalm, turn Congressional Republicans into crispy critters; then, sweep the battlefield and shoot the wounded.

But we won't do it. We will just wring our hands and whimper about bipartisanship.

Of course, my mind was twisted by my two tours in the bush in Vietnam where we practiced bipartisanship by employing overwhelming firepower.

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Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #22)

Fri May 28, 2021, 08:24 PM

29. Where did the "overwhelming firepower" get us?

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:19 PM

23. Once again, she knows much more than you do. Nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #23)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:23 PM

25. Oh. And it doesn't take a village? Nancy is impervious to influence?

Nancy never loses perspective?

Nancy may know more, but that doesn't mean that she makes the best decisions every time.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:21 PM

24. Immediately? Nearly a half day has passed. Nada.

Where are the ducks that need to be lined up in a row? Why are they so hard to find? And why haven't they already been lined up IN ANTICIPATION OF THE INEVITABLE?

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #24)

Fri May 28, 2021, 07:25 PM

27. House and Senate are now out of session

Nothing happens quickly. Both chambers are adjourned thereís nothing to be said or done until they return.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat May 29, 2021, 11:45 AM

31. The GQP (worse than ISIS) is going to delay until

they rig and take congress away from us next year.

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