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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPelosi And The Dems Need To Strike Back Fast/Immediately.....
Don't pussyfoot around. Bipartisanship didn't work. Don't give them any breathing room.
Hit back immediately and put the Repugs on the defensive.
The Dems need to go it alone now.
Or the AG needs to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate.
Whichever path is taken - it can't be put on hold - it needs to move forward immediately.
The Dems, Schumer & Pelosi should have anticipated the Repugs vote today and had a contingency plan ready to go immediately after the vote for the commission failed.
I just can't understand why the Dems are not more proactive while they watch the Repugs methodically destroying our democracy.
I'll be very disappointed in the Dems if when they get back from this Memorial Day Holiday recess if they don't begin an investigation.
IMHO they should have laid out plans for such an investigation immediately today - after this vote failed. They knew that it would go down. They should have been ready.
orleans
(34,049 posts)time to start up that select committee where dems will have full subpoena power that republicans can't even object to. come on, nancy! let's go!
Link to tweet
And would somebody get Joe Manchin on board, for once and for all? WTH is his problem? The rethugs are going to continue doing what they did to Obama. We certainly don't need one of the Dem senators being complicit in their crimes against us all!
orleans
(34,049 posts)BUT back in the heyday of 2014 she broke with dems to vote for that bullshit benghazi crap
"Only seven Democrats "broke ranks" to vote with the majority party to establish the select committee: Ron Barber of Arizona, John Barrow of Georgia, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, Patrick Murphy of Florida, Collin Peterson of Minnesota, Nick Rahall of West Virginia, and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Benghazi#:~:text=Only%20seven%20Democrats%20%22broke%20ranks,and%20Kyrsten%20Sinema%20of%20Arizona.
Joinfortmill
(14,416 posts)bahboo
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RKP5637
(67,104 posts)approach it as gentlemen/women and the GOP approach it prepared to stab the dems in the back. For the most part, today's GOP is really more of a domestic terrorist party than a political party of the past.
GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)It's tantamount to an admission of their own guilt. We already have this to hang on their candidates in 2022. I would naturally expect an investigation to follow after today's vote.
Nobody ever thought that Republicans would have agreed to do this. Nancy made them show their hand.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Petards and hoists ripe for the picking.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)Republican insurrectionists ignore Jan 6? We should ignore Republican insurrectionists.
I agree with you. Find a way to name a commission, same goal, in another theater. Could be House, could be DOJ.
I advise us to keep mentioning "insurrection". Don't let it be a riot. These are insurrectionists who committed sedition and perhaps, some of them, treason. They had leaders who organized and paid for it.
NonPC
(301 posts)Nancy and crew are going to wait until at least Tuesday to announce something. Everyone just keep your underwear on.
Qutzupalotl
(14,301 posts)It seems the media and therefore the public can only accept a single factual development in a given news cycle.
We've learned that Republicans won't vote for even a watered-down commission. Okay; let that percolate and generate outrage. Then we'll have even more public support when we launch a House investigation.
The delay in waiting at least one news cycle makes it abundantly clear that we extended a hand of bipartisanship, only to have it slapped away again.
Bev54
(10,045 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)and are more than ready. Just because they don't announce their plans, that doesn't mean they don't have any. Making the Republicans fold, seems to be a smart move, but I don't understand why Republicans would not want to try and sabotage the investigation, from the inside.
FlyingPiggy
(3,383 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)RegularJam
(914 posts)It would be a complete lost opportunity. A lot of the news going into the holiday weekend will be about Republicans blocking it. Thats a win for us. Our members need to take the next couple of days blanketing the networks and hammering Republicans.
They do need to outline their next steps publicly on Tuesday. I will not be happy if they dont.
If we are winning the narrative and can extend the next step, even if only days, its a win win for us.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)I'm sure she has a detailed contingency plan, and has chosen the leaders she needs. Those two impeachment hearings taught us that. Ms. Pelosi is the right person for this time.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Now is the time for expediency.
NQAS
(10,749 posts)Document. Phone records. Emails. Non-stop. 12 hours a day.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)...
AverageOldGuy
(1,523 posts). . . and I hope I'm wrong.
But -- we Democrats have a habit of taking a bouquet of roses to a gunfight. The GOP rejection of the commission -- and their coming rejection of the entire Biden agenda -- requires us to engage in a gunfight -- call in heavy artillery; air support with napalm, turn Congressional Republicans into crispy critters; then, sweep the battlefield and shoot the wounded.
But we won't do it. We will just wring our hands and whimper about bipartisanship.
Of course, my mind was twisted by my two tours in the bush in Vietnam where we practiced bipartisanship by employing overwhelming firepower.
former9thward
(31,974 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Nancy never loses perspective?
Nancy may know more, but that doesn't mean that she makes the best decisions every time.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Where are the ducks that need to be lined up in a row? Why are they so hard to find? And why haven't they already been lined up IN ANTICIPATION OF THE INEVITABLE?
Action_Patrol
(845 posts)Nothing happens quickly. Both chambers are adjourned theres nothing to be said or done until they return.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)they rig and take congress away from us next year.