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Botany

(70,447 posts)
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:44 PM May 2021

Kos: Proud Boy who hid ax handle in American flag argues he'll lose disability pay if he's in jail

With the help of online sleuths and boatloads of video and social media evidence, the arrests and charges keep rolling in. But as hearings begin and court dates are set, plea deals are bandied about and defenses and bonds are debated. One group of bigots that was well-represented in Washington, D.C., that fateful day is the so-called Proud Boys. The Proud Boys have enjoyed incredible immunity from law enforcement over the past few years. In recent weeks, many of these bigoted boys have been arrested and each and everyone of them has given a sob story about why they shouldn’t be in jail for breaking all the laws. One particular Kansas Proud Boy, William Chrestman, who was recorded wielding an axe handle and threatening a federal law enforcement officer, is freaking out because he is stuck in jail.

Chrestman, a 43-year-old unemployed union sheet metal worker, was reportedly arrested alongside fellow Kansas residents Louis Enrique Colon and Christopher Kuehne back in February for their part in the insurrection. The charges, according to the Kansas City Star, included “conspiracy, civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding, knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.” Chrestman had the distinction of additional charges for carrying the deadly weapon and threatening law enforcement.

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But that isn’t all. According to Chrestman’s legal counsel, he has been receiving disability insurance and medical care by way of the Department of Veterans Affairs. According to the Star, Chrestman also has a family and his detention means that his benefits are up in the air. “The residence he shares with his common-law partner … and their six children is in danger of foreclosure, placing the whole nuclear family in jeopardy of homelessness.”

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Why Chrestman’s fellow conspirators have been let free on bond remains a mystery. According to the federal affidavit against Chrestman and the men, they acted “in concert to prevent law enforcement officers from controlling the crowd by obstructing metal barriers,” and also “appeared to gesture and communicate to one another both before and while inside the Capitol in an apparent effort to coordinate their efforts.” Oh yeah, and Chrestman wrapped his axe handle in an American flag to allegedly hide it while he was pantomiming peaceful protest.



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/5/27/2032422/-Proud-Boy-tries-to-downplay-role-in-Jan-6-riots-mourns-loss-of-government-benefits-while-in-jail?detail=emaildkre

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Kos: Proud Boy who hid ax handle in American flag argues he'll lose disability pay if he's in jail (Original Post) Botany May 2021 OP
So he's not getting the benefits ... NanceGreggs May 2021 #1
Seems like the criminal is surprised there are punishments for committing crimes. LonePirate May 2021 #2
More likely, he can't believe he's not a revolutionary hero under a restored Trump presidency William Seger May 2021 #23
Too bad. A man with all those responsibilities should've thought of that before... brush May 2021 #3
This shitbag Diamond_Dog May 2021 #4
No worries. One good thing about jail is, you'll get free meals. oasis May 2021 #5
Yup! PatSeg May 2021 #25
Three hots and a cot... Wounded Bear May 2021 #32
Could Have Stayed Home ProfessorGAC May 2021 #6
Cut him off forever. He doesn't deserve another penny from the US government MagickMuffin May 2021 #7
I know so many people living on Disability, Supplemental Income, Medicaid, Veteran pensions Midnight Writer May 2021 #8
yup Skittles May 2021 #13
Gavin McGinnis BGBD May 2021 #9
Too fucking bad bottomofthehill May 2021 #10
Uses the American flag to hide a weapon keithbvadu2 May 2021 #11
so he is disabled, but capable of taking part in an insurrection Skittles May 2021 #12
For someone on the brink of financial disaster, he was able to afford his Tanuki May 2021 #15
sure doesn't sound like he spent it on his family Skittles May 2021 #16
That's just the point I was going to make. SeattleVet May 2021 #20
Too bad, so sad.... thoughts and prayers, etc Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #14
I sure hope he goes to jail. And lose his disability. There needs to be FlyingPiggy May 2021 #17
Well he demonstrated he isn't so disabled that he can't engage in strenuous physical Historic NY May 2021 #18
What an entitled moron. BlueStater May 2021 #19
this dumb ass officialy shot himself in the foot !! monkeyman1 May 2021 #21
How come none of these guys appear to be Sucha NastyWoman May 2021 #22
he needs a disability review and they need to hit him with fraud/repayment Takket May 2021 #24
Precisely Sherman A1 May 2021 #30
Scum collecting VA disability. Add fraud to the charges. 44 yrs old with 6 kids on disability. What Pepsidog May 2021 #26
Common law partner with six kids! GulfCoast66 May 2021 #27
so much easier to onethatcares May 2021 #31
Sounds like one of them Ferryboat May 2021 #28
I really don't care. Do U? Initech May 2021 #29
He may not lose all of his disability benefits from the VA. marie999 May 2021 #33

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
1. So he's not getting the benefits ...
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:51 PM
May 2021

... issued by the government he was trying to overthrow?

That's just all kinds of stupid right there.

brush

(53,743 posts)
3. Too bad. A man with all those responsibilities should've thought of that before...
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:54 PM
May 2021

joining in an attempted coup. I feel for his family though.

Diamond_Dog

(31,911 posts)
4. This shitbag
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:55 PM
May 2021

is a disgrace to all veterans. Heck, he’s a disgrace to the human race.

If he’s so anti-government, cut off his disability and VA medical care.

PatSeg

(47,270 posts)
25. Yup!
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:25 PM
May 2021

Clothing and shelter too, all at the taxpayers expense. Even free healthcare for that disability.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
6. Could Have Stayed Home
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:03 PM
May 2021

Then none of this is a problem.
But he didn't, and only now he considers the consequences.
He's too stupid for me to care about him.

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
7. Cut him off forever. He doesn't deserve another penny from the US government
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:04 PM
May 2021


William Chrestman be loud and PROUD of your actions, no one to blame but yourself!

Isn't that what your klan is all about?

Midnight Writer

(21,715 posts)
8. I know so many people living on Disability, Supplemental Income, Medicaid, Veteran pensions
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:05 PM
May 2021

that have bought into this anti-government, tear the whole thing down bullshit.

There is no talking to them.

I just can't make sense of it.

bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
10. Too fucking bad
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:29 PM
May 2021

He will be eating ok in jail, the chick he is shacked up with and the 6 kids can eat dog food for all I care. He is a fucking parasite.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
12. so he is disabled, but capable of taking part in an insurrection
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:34 PM
May 2021

I think a benefits review is in order.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
15. For someone on the brink of financial disaster, he was able to afford his
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:44 PM
May 2021

cosplay gear, transportation halfway across the country and back, and hotel expenses to indulge in his insurrectionist fantasies. I wonder if he had income from working off the books while drawing disability.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
20. That's just the point I was going to make.
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:14 PM
May 2021

If this guy can afford all of the expensive 'tactical' gear he's wearing and carrying, and all of the travel and lodging involved with his little adventure to the insurrection, he can afford to sit it out in a holding cell while waiting for his trial or plea bargain to come up.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
18. Well he demonstrated he isn't so disabled that he can't engage in strenuous physical
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:11 PM
May 2021

activity wielding an axe handle.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,741 posts)
22. How come none of these guys appear to be
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:22 PM
May 2021

The strong, independent, self supporting leaders that they claim to admire?

Takket

(21,528 posts)
24. he needs a disability review and they need to hit him with fraud/repayment
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:23 PM
May 2021

he can swing an ax at an insurrection but he's disabled? Review his case immediately and make him pay back what he stole if it is not legit.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
26. Scum collecting VA disability. Add fraud to the charges. 44 yrs old with 6 kids on disability. What
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:37 PM
May 2021

a lying piece of shit.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
27. Common law partner with six kids!
Fri May 28, 2021, 11:45 PM
May 2021

Dollars to donuts he is getting benefits for them as well as his disability payment. Well, technically the mother of his kids. But he reaps the benefits. And he can attack cops but too disabled hold down a good paying job?

He seems the regular welfare king.

Sarcasm people! Kind of.

onethatcares

(16,162 posts)
31. so much easier to
Sat May 29, 2021, 08:40 AM
May 2021

sit around watching fauxsnooze on the 83 inch teevee he bought with winnings from the casino while complaining about the welfare cheats that drive cadillacs and eat steak every night.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
33. He may not lose all of his disability benefits from the VA.
Sat May 29, 2021, 10:32 AM
May 2021

Dependants can still get some benefits. The VA will allow dependants to keep most or all of what they get plus CHAMPVA if covered by the VA.

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