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kentuck

(111,078 posts)
Mon May 31, 2021, 08:41 AM May 2021

Is the "Trump Party" stronger than the Democratic Party?

Most folks would say "No". I think there is little doubt about that.

But, is the "Trump Party" stronger than the Democratic Party? We like to think not.

However, there is no guarantee that the Democrats will ever again get the turnout they got in the last election? Due to the COVID, there were creative ways for people to vote. They were not illegal votes. But they were not Democrats that normally voted in previous elections. Fortune smiled on the Democrats.

We do not like to think about how strong the Trump "coalition" is, in comparison to the Democratic and Republican Parties. In my opinion, we should not overlook the substantial number of Democratic and Independent voters that joined the Trump Party. (After all, he got 75 million votes) That was about 9 million more votes than Hillary got in the previous election.

So, what happens if the Trump Party is stronger than both the Democratic Party and the remaining Republican Party? That is a whole new ballgame that we have not envisioned. However, that is not an impossibility.

Indeed, that could spell the end of democracy as we have known it. In effect, the majority of the people of this country could vote to do away with democracy, in favor of a authoritarian dictatorship.

What does it mean?

It means that "normal" Democrats and Republicans are fighting the wrong battle. If they truly want to defeat this very strong fascist movement, then they need to join forces. As improbable as that may sound, it may be the only way to save democracy?

The issues that unite the American people are stronger than all the issues that separate the present Democratic and Republican Parties. They must find a way to fight this "enemy" together or we will all lose our democracy.

Not a pleasant thought.

(Edited title of post - changed Republican to Democratic)

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Is the "Trump Party" stronger than the Democratic Party? (Original Post) kentuck May 2021 OP
No. Maxheader May 2021 #1
they are just louder and ruder not smarter nor more of them... samnsara May 2021 #2
Pressure Murkowski and Romney to quit the party. Whatever it takes Walleye May 2021 #3
They would not have to leave their Party. kentuck May 2021 #4
I agree with that. They just have to cut themselves off from the Republicans for a time Walleye May 2021 #5
Yes - every time Mitt, Susan or Lisa express concern or disappointment NewJeffCT May 2021 #9
I think I need to sub the coffee for valium before reading DU "latest"... hlthe2b May 2021 #6
No. marble falls May 2021 #7
No. StarfishSaver May 2021 #8
No...you've got a lot of what if's going here....why do that? Seriously PortTack May 2021 #10
All 75 million newdayneeded May 2021 #11
The trumpanzees have a structural advantage wellst0nev0ter May 2021 #12
They're fanatics that is to be sure Johonny May 2021 #13

Walleye

(31,008 posts)
3. Pressure Murkowski and Romney to quit the party. Whatever it takes
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:28 AM
May 2021

Why would any self-respecting US senator of any party be subservient to these clowns?

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
4. They would not have to leave their Party.
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:44 AM
May 2021

They would only need to join the Democrats in the fight against this threat against our democracy. They would not need to swear allegiance to the Democratic Party.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. Yes - every time Mitt, Susan or Lisa express concern or disappointment
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:49 AM
May 2021

I will tweet out that if they were really that upset, they should resign from the GOP and agree to caucus with the Democrats.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
6. I think I need to sub the coffee for valium before reading DU "latest"...
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:50 AM
May 2021

My current worries about what the Trumpists are doing re: elections, potential violence, corruption have now moved my COVID-19 concerns to the back pasture, so to speak.

Pass the valium (or the Ativan)

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
11. All 75 million
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:56 AM
May 2021

weren't Trump boot lickers. I really believe half were just voting for the R after his name. In my opinion, the trump party would truly only be about 30 million voters. Not this all powerful machine.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
12. The trumpanzees have a structural advantage
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:00 AM
May 2021

Biden won just over 51% of the vote during a economic recession and a pandemic. Just 44,000 votes kept us from 45's second term thanks to the Electoral College.

Those who choose to rest on their laurels while the trumpanzees plan for a silent coup are only deluding themselves.

Johonny

(20,833 posts)
13. They're fanatics that is to be sure
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:19 AM
May 2021

The thing is, it's not clear they're any better at voting and turning out than Dems. Remember the GOP saw increased turnout too.

Also remember, many that stormed the capitol failed to vote. Trump is liked by the dumbest people in society. He's also groomed them to think voting is pointless and fixed. Neither concept great for turnout.

Obviously Trump is so hated, the Dems would love for him to be very visible in 2022.

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