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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:55 AM Oct 2012

MUST READ -- Dear Max: A Letter To Senator Max Cleland From Hill 471 Khe Sanh

Dear Max:

Well, here I am, Hill 471 in Khe Sanh. I came here because I love and admire you and since I was touring Vietnam I figured what the hell, I'll head up to Khe Sanh and find Hill 471 and stand where you last stood all those years ago.

These days I have to confess that it's pretty easy to get to Khe Sanh. I'm told back then the roads were mud and a mess, now you speed right on up them. I don't know if you noticed all those years ago, during the war, but it's beautiful country Max.

You can lost watching the mountains and the streams, passing through the villages with the houses built on stilts but then you get jarred back to why you are here, where you are when you see the signs for Camp Carroll or you go by a beautiful small mountain peak and your guide tells you:

"That's Rockpile, Marines, Rockpile."

Like all good pilgrimages, as you head towards Khe Sanh from the coast, you climb higher and ever higher into the hills, headed towards Laos, past the memorial to the Ho Chi Minh trail, past the small towns and villages, the highway markers counting down to the old base, twenty klicks, then ten, then five.

And then I am here.

First we head up to the main base,to see the small museum there and also, well, my guide has been going here for twenty years and I've been searching for about six months, but neither of us are 100% sure where Hill 471 is so we need to double check on the maps that the museum has.

My guide is dutifully calling all her other guide friends and we are pretty sure we know, but hell, I don't want to come all this way and not be sure, it'd be just like me to come all this way and be one hill off.

Ironically what greets me when I walk onto the base? A chopper, looking like it could fly today. (pictures here)

In the museum,we check the map and there's Hill 471, right about where we thought it was. I wander the museum a bit and take a walk down the runway, they've planted corn on parts of it of all things. I'm sure back then it was never quiet enough to hear the wind rush up the valleys, or to feel it as it goes over the top of the hills.

I ask my guide if many Americans come here, the answer is yes. How are they when they are here? Sad, many still affected by the war.

As we get back in the car and head to Hill 471, I think of when we first met, almost ten years ago, and all those times together on JK's campaign and since. I especially remember, for some reason, a dinner we had at Legal Sea Foods a couple of years ago, I sat next to you and I know you love your lobster!

I remember cutting the pieces for you, smaller and smaller so you could eat them. When we eat, I know now to take your plate when the food arrives, and start cutting it up, without asking you, without you asking me.

Sometime between then and when I planned this trip, I decided I wanted to come here. For you. Just so you know I love you and I think the world of you, you are one of my heroes and always will be.

We cut back through town and up a small road, you'd be happy to know some kids were playing soccer and their laughter filled the air as we got near the hill.

Here it is Max, this is Hill 471 today, looks different I imagine. It was very, very green and very, very quiet. I climbed through the underbrush and right in the middle, you can't quite see in the pictures, but hell it's been a few years you know.

(pictures here)

But when you climb up from the road, you can tell where the top of the hill was flattened for a landing pad. So I figure this is about where the chopper landed, and about where you got out.

I tried to close my eyes and imagine the sounds back then, of choppers flying and guns and of soldiers and of war, but I really couldn't. All I heard were the kids down the hill, laughing and yelling, the birds in the trees and the wind.

I felt wonderfully calm and at peace, that's the love in you Max, so much love and faith in you, coming to me over here - it made me smile.

I thought I might be sad here thinking of you and what you lost on this hill, but I wasn't, it was more of a joyous moment, for you for surviving, for the men and medics who helped you survive and for what you have given me and so many others, life lessons in the power of love and forgiveness and perseverance like no other man could.

I wish you had been here so I could have given you and gotten one of your great one-arm hugs.

I made it back through the thicket to the road and took another picture for you. About the middle of the trees is where the hill is flat for the landing pad.

As I headed to the car, my guide asked:

"Your friend, maybe he come back here one day?"

"Maybe it'd be a long way for him to travel. But maybe."

"So you like son, you come here for him, pay respects?"

God damm right I did.

Time for some more lobster, I'll come see you soon.

James

to see the pictures, please check out this link.

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MUST READ -- Dear Max: A Letter To Senator Max Cleland From Hill 471 Khe Sanh (Original Post) FourScore Oct 2012 OP
Of course the Republican chickenhawks lied and crapped all over this wounded US Veteran Berlum Oct 2012 #1
Please delete this picture Glitterati Oct 2012 #2
Berlum, I understand your anger. FourScore Oct 2012 #4
Max is great. The chickenhawk Republican crapstorm of lies about this veteran Berlum Oct 2012 #19
I understand. FourScore Oct 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author NBachers Oct 2012 #12
Du rec. Nt xchrom Oct 2012 #3
You did it madokie Oct 2012 #5
I love lobster, too. ThatsMyBarack Oct 2012 #6
Thank you for posting this, FourScore Glorfindel Oct 2012 #7
Two of the finest Americans to ever serve - Max and JK - thank you, James. blm Oct 2012 #8
... Tsiyu Oct 2012 #9
I'll never forget Saxby Chambliss and his "Values". Shit. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2012 #10
A Long Time Ago In a Small Living Room.... Island Deac Oct 2012 #11
This is the point where I sign off and go out into my day- and I will take this thread with me NBachers Oct 2012 #13
I wasn't there and I can't heal from that war, so hard to imagine all the pain... joanbarnes Oct 2012 #14
Most never really "heal" from any war. Bandit Oct 2012 #17
Thank you, beautiful letter and tribute.. mountain grammy Oct 2012 #15
Among the reasons why I loathe and despise Republicans... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #16
I am so glad that I read this while I was alone.... daleanime Oct 2012 #18

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
1. Of course the Republican chickenhawks lied and crapped all over this wounded US Veteran
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:02 AM
Oct 2012

Why do Republicans HATE our honorable US sons and daughters in uniformed service to America?

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
2. Please delete this picture
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:09 AM
Oct 2012

from this thread.

Please.

Please don't allow this wonderful tribute to Max Cleland to be demagogued by this monster.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
4. Berlum, I understand your anger.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oct 2012

We all feel it with you. But would you mind too terribly if I asked you to tone down the rhetoric of your post, and let's focus on the great courage of Max Cleland? He deserves the best tribute we can give. Thank you.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
19. Max is great. The chickenhawk Republican crapstorm of lies about this veteran
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:35 PM
Oct 2012

pisses off real veterans to no end. I praise Mr. Cleland for his courage and his service to America. I will not tone down my condemnation of those Republicans who threw mud at him for his honorable service to our nation. They are a shameful cowardly lot.

Response to Berlum (Reply #1)

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
7. Thank you for posting this, FourScore
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:35 AM
Oct 2012

As a fellow Georgian and a fellow Vietnam veteran, Mr. Cleland has always been a BIG hero of mine. I had the honor and privilege of voting for him more than once.

blm

(114,760 posts)
8. Two of the finest Americans to ever serve - Max and JK - thank you, James.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:56 AM
Oct 2012

It's an honor to have read your letter.

Island Deac

(110 posts)
11. A Long Time Ago In a Small Living Room....
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:39 AM
Oct 2012

I was attending a neighborhood rally for some local candidate in Atlanta. Suddenly, everyone was real excited that Max was coming to visit us. Moments later a wheelchair was rolled into the room. It was Max Cleland. Didn't know who he was. Didn't know what the history was. Met and spoke briefly. This wasn't a man who nearly died on the Hill. This was a man that was reborn to serve his fellow man. Have always cherished that moment. Thanks for the memory-jog, James!

NBachers

(19,570 posts)
13. This is the point where I sign off and go out into my day- and I will take this thread with me
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:43 AM
Oct 2012

Thank You

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
17. Most never really "heal" from any war.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:15 PM
Oct 2012

I was there... Max was in D company 2nd of the 12th Cav. I was in B company 2nd of the 12th Cav. 2nd of the 12th Cav was called Roving Gambler. A company was called Ace High, B Company was called Bad Bet, C company was called Wild Card, and D company was called Stacked Deck. We often had either a plunger unit or mortar unit with us to make up the fith company...It was a very long time ago but sometimes it feels like yesterday...

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
16. Among the reasons why I loathe and despise Republicans...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
Oct 2012

their treatment of Max Cleland is at the very top of the list. Cleland is a man who gave everything but his life for his country, and they -- who never defended this nation -- impugned his patriotism.

I fucking hate them all.

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