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Doc Sportello

(7,953 posts)
Mon May 31, 2021, 08:34 PM May 2021

Tulsa wasn't alone. There were dozens of massacres

After the Civil War, and especially after WWI, in states from New York to California. 1919 was especially bloody when it came to white mob violence, so much so that it was known as Red 1919. Here is an interactive map of some of the bloodshed.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/05/us/whitewashing-of-america-racism/

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Tulsa wasn't alone. There were dozens of massacres (Original Post) Doc Sportello May 2021 OP
That is the year my father was born. I_UndergroundPanther May 2021 #1
It was a time when racism reached a zenith Doc Sportello May 2021 #3
And an excellent article from the Guardian about Red Summer hatrack May 2021 #2
Thank you Doc Sportello May 2021 #4
I agree with you! Context is critical! lastlib May 2021 #10
A well known book on the subject is "100 years of lynchings" Doc Sportello Jun 2021 #15
Thanks for the tip! I will look into it! lastlib Jun 2021 #16
Lynchings: By State and Race, 1882-1968 * Klaralven Jun 2021 #19
Excellent link flying rabbit May 2021 #5
Tulsa was not the only massacre LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #6
Sick. moondust May 2021 #7
Link is heart-stopping. K&R zentrum May 2021 #8
There was a mass lynching of Chinese people Raine May 2021 #9
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #21
I live about 10 miles from Ocoee, Florida site of a massacre on Election Day 1920 GulfCoast66 May 2021 #11
My comment is slightly off-topic . . . but not by much . . . AverageOldGuy May 2021 #12
Yes, those events were huge in the 50s and 60s Doc Sportello Jun 2021 #14
AverageOldGuy....I am same age Politicalgolfer Jun 2021 #20
Good God. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #13
This seems to be turning into our own national "Holocaust." lastlib Jun 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Jun 2021 #18

Doc Sportello

(7,953 posts)
3. It was a time when racism reached a zenith
Mon May 31, 2021, 08:39 PM
May 2021

In terms of establishment support of the KKK and ignoring lynchings and other forms of white violence such as race riots.

Doc Sportello

(7,953 posts)
4. Thank you
Mon May 31, 2021, 08:40 PM
May 2021

The current focus on Tulsa is good but it should be placed in the context of what was going on at the time - and it was widespread.

lastlib

(24,676 posts)
10. I agree with you! Context is critical!
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:09 PM
May 2021

I've been told that my grandfather participated in a lynching in the early 1920's, several years before my mother was born. I've never had a chance to research it, but I would like to do so some day.

Doc Sportello

(7,953 posts)
15. A well known book on the subject is "100 years of lynchings"
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:07 AM
Jun 2021

I read it in college. The author compiles newspaper and other archival material about lynchings that were more commonplace than people realize, and often were almost celebratory events.

There may be something about your event in it. It is still in publication:
https://www.amazon.com/100-Years-Lynchings-Ralph-Ginzburg/dp/0933121180?asin=0933121180&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
19. Lynchings: By State and Race, 1882-1968 *
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 08:00 PM
Jun 2021
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingsstate.html

1,297 whites, 3,446 blacks, 4,743 total
*Statistics provided by the Archives at Tuskegee Institute.

Georgia lynched the largest number of blacks. Texas lynched the most whites.

Raine

(30,592 posts)
9. There was a mass lynching of Chinese people
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:03 PM
May 2021

in Los Angeles in 1871 it was one of the worst in US history.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
11. I live about 10 miles from Ocoee, Florida site of a massacre on Election Day 1920
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:10 PM
May 2021

African Americans had organized a voter registration drive, led by the most prosperous of them.

When they tried to vote it kicked off a riot that wet into overdrive at the home of a prosperous black man named July Perry. When the lynch mob tried to break into his house, knowing he was going to die he shot the shit out of them. Killing 2 and injuring several. He was eventually killed and his body hung by a lamp post 20 miles away in Orlando.

All black residents were driven from the town and their property seized. An estimated 35 were killed and an unknown number of whites were shot as the African Americans fought back.

No African Americans moved back until 1981 and it was still seen as a racist town when I moved here in the mid-80’s.

Today it is a large, multicultural bedroom community for Orlando.

The only good thing our shitty Governor has done is sign a decree that the massacre must be taught in Florida public schools.

Orlando put up a monument to Perry. We should name highways after him. He was an American hero.

AverageOldGuy

(1,941 posts)
12. My comment is slightly off-topic . . . but not by much . . .
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:21 PM
May 2021

Today I was watching Lawrence O'Donnell. He was addressing the current recognition being given to the Tulsa Massacre of 1921.

One of his guests was a guy named Tim Miller who . . . as best I can tell . . . is a hard-core Republican, though he is very much anti-Trump. According to Wikipedia he graduated from high school in 2000, which would make him 40, more or less. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Miller_(political_strategist)

Miller made a statement that left me with my mouth hanging open -- he said (as best I recall): "I am well-educated but up until now I never heard of the Tulsa massacre and until a few days ago I had never heard of the Birmingham church bombing."

I damn near fell out of my chair.

Of course, I'm an old guy (76), born and reared in Mississippi, I was a college student in Alabama in the 1960's and I recall clearly:
-- Birmingham church bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing
-- Schwerner-Chaney-Goodman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Chaney,_Goodman,_and_Schwerner
-- Emmett Till https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
-- Burning of freedom rider bus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Riders
-- and dozens of other events that everyone should know.






Doc Sportello

(7,953 posts)
14. Yes, those events were huge in the 50s and 60s
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:02 AM
Jun 2021

I remember the Mississippi killings when I was 11 being a big deal. The others I was a little too young, but good grief, I READ and LEARNED about them later. Is that too much to ask younger people to do? I guess for many it is.

Politicalgolfer

(317 posts)
20. AverageOldGuy....I am same age
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 10:18 PM
Jun 2021

..and I am stunned by people even in our age group who are oblivious to all that was taking place at that time! Good God, there were like only 2 & later 3 networks. The news wasn't entertainment as it is now but real, focused, etc. In other words, there were people who never watched or read the news or knew what went on outside their own cowtown😠

lastlib

(24,676 posts)
17. This seems to be turning into our own national "Holocaust."
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 09:06 AM
Jun 2021

As a nation, we have GOT to come to grips with it.

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