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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:34 PM May 2021

Even in the face of surging grocery prices, retail beef and pork prices cause sticker shock

As food prices continue to rise, beef and pork have surged out front.

Overall food prices rose 0.4 percent from March, and are up 1 percent from a year ago, according to data released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis on Friday. The price of pork soared 2.6 percent in the month of April and 4.8 percent from a year ago, adjusting for seasonality. And while beef and veal prices stayed fairly flat for the month, they are up 3.3 percent from a year ago.

In a season that routinely sees increased demand for beef and pork, this goes far beyond people excited to get back outside to barbecue.

Michael Nepveux, an economist for the American Farm Bureau Federation, ticks off the factors contributing to skyrocketing prices: Labor shortages in the meatpacking industry on the heels of months of slowdowns and shutdowns due to covid-19; a surge in restocking food service as restaurants reopen; high grain and transportation costs; and strong exports and domestic demand.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/05/29/beef-pork-retail-prices-skyrocket/

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Even in the face of surging grocery prices, retail beef and pork prices cause sticker shock (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 OP
Meat is really not good for us. Treefrog May 2021 #1
Old thinking. Happy Hoosier May 2021 #4
Maybe he means edhopper May 2021 #6
I agree and there is a long running push to cut U.S. meat eating, it is worth much more to the ShazamIam May 2021 #10
Well, UK feeding bone meal to cattle DenaliDemocrat May 2021 #13
That's a different argument. Happy Hoosier May 2021 #14
Not eating meat isn't bad for you either. ret5hd May 2021 #15
I never said otherwise. Cheers! Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #30
+1 LongtimeAZDem Jun 2021 #21
I would change that to say eating less meat would benefit many of us DBoon Jun 2021 #17
I have cut down significantly on my meat consumption. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #22
Problem with eating lots of legumes - highest foods in glyphosate womanofthehills Jun 2021 #25
Damn! I had never heard of this. Thanks for the info. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #28
Beans are high in carbs... Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #31
I live near a meat market with the lowest prices in the county. tirebiter May 2021 #2
I live in cattle county with a meat processing plant in our small town womanofthehills Jun 2021 #24
My local grocery store is now offering friendly financing on meat products. Chainfire May 2021 #3
Oh, wow. I could use that. Do they do layaway? Hortensis Jun 2021 #29
Let's get used to the high meat prices, and ban CAFO's and other Ron Green May 2021 #5
Agree - I will not eat beef that's not grass fed womanofthehills Jun 2021 #26
Prices vary at my local Stop and Shop by 20 -50% week to week depending on Sales. rgbecker May 2021 #7
A 4.2 percent increase on 4.99/lb is .20 a pound greenjar_01 May 2021 #8
Right now the killer is $10 for a $3 two by four. rgbecker May 2021 #9
Overall food prices rose .4% from March up 1% from doc03 May 2021 #11
Prices need to rise to cut consumption. roamer65 May 2021 #12
I worked in a meat market as a kid. Back in the 70s good ground chuck was 99 cents/lb captain queeg May 2021 #16
Quite true; $.99 in 1978 would be $4.23 today, so it's pretty much the same real cost LongtimeAZDem Jun 2021 #20
If cost's a problem, stores with rotisserie chickens generally sell them as a sort of loss leader... Hekate Jun 2021 #18
one serving of plant-based "meat" NJCher Jun 2021 #19
It's been reported that the plant burgers have high levels of glyphosate womanofthehills Jun 2021 #27
I'm researching this NJCher Jun 2021 #32
I'll take your word for it DFW Jun 2021 #23

Happy Hoosier

(7,367 posts)
4. Old thinking.
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:48 PM
May 2021

Meat is fine for you, in moderation. Given my metabolism, it’s carbs that are the problem. My health had improved tremendously since cut way back in carbs, but I can enjoy meat and dairy just fine in moderation.

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
10. I agree and there is a long running push to cut U.S. meat eating, it is worth much more to the
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:15 PM
May 2021

global 1 per centers, who equal in number our total population. There is also the gross environmental problems with the corporate ag production methods right down to the despicable working conditions of the people who do the chicken, beef, pork and other cutting.

The same group is negotiating with UK to allow our antibiotic, hormone and glyphosate laced meat products into that market, I think the EU bans a lot of U.S. Ag due to chemicals and animal husbandry practicies.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
13. Well, UK feeding bone meal to cattle
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:37 PM
May 2021

Certainly caused some problems didn’t it? I Just purchased half a Holstein steer finished on TMR rations. It’s nice beef. A bit beefier in flavor than a beef steer only fed corn and a mouthful of hay to avoid the scours. Well marbled, would likely grade out high choice or low prime. Nice to know that the steer didn’t go to veal either

Happy Hoosier

(7,367 posts)
14. That's a different argument.
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:48 PM
May 2021

I’m addressing the unqualified claim that eating meat is bad for you. It isn’t.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. I have cut down significantly on my meat consumption.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 02:06 AM
Jun 2021

And have kind of replaced it with legumes (different kinds of beans, lentils, chickpeas/hummus, peas, etc.) and vegetables. I make a lot of soups and stews with them, so they go a long way. Very filling, nutritious and best of all, not expensive.

I am not a vegetarian, but I am just trying to be a little more conscientious about what i am eating for a number of reasons.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. Damn! I had never heard of this. Thanks for the info.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 05:13 AM
Jun 2021

I mostly use WF 365 Brand Organic canned legumes, which are not supposed to be treated w/ any glyphosate, however I looked it up and found that WF hummus and my favorite Sabra hummus both have high levels of glyphosate. Damn! I love hummus. I might have to get a mini food processor and start making my own.

I sometimes wonder if there is anything safe left to eat. Animal products are bad, plants are loaded with pesticides, how do we find things that aren't bad for us? I live in a city or else i would have my own garden like we did when I was growing up.

Happy Hoosier

(7,367 posts)
31. Beans are high in carbs...
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 08:44 AM
Jun 2021

But also high in fiber. They are fine for non-diabetics (and I love them), but for those of us managing blood glucose, we mist be careful of the carbs.

womanofthehills

(8,751 posts)
24. I live in cattle county with a meat processing plant in our small town
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 03:56 AM
Jun 2021

Nothing like local grass fed beef.

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
5. Let's get used to the high meat prices, and ban CAFO's and other
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:50 PM
May 2021

industrial food operations while we’re at it. The animals we eat should be treated well, even loved, in their lives and honored in their deaths. Hence their meat ought to cost a lot and we should eat it on special occasions.

womanofthehills

(8,751 posts)
26. Agree - I will not eat beef that's not grass fed
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 04:08 AM
Jun 2021

I only eat chicken that is organic and can run in a pasture. Organic chicken has thinner skin and much less fat. The taste is a gazillion times better than commercial caged chickens and the chickens are treated humanely. I have nine chickens I feed organically for eggs.

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
7. Prices vary at my local Stop and Shop by 20 -50% week to week depending on Sales.
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:53 PM
May 2021

You can pay 4.99/lb. for pork chops or 1.99...just watch for the deals...buy the value packs and freeze half...

Not concerned about 4% increase in a year.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
8. A 4.2 percent increase on 4.99/lb is .20 a pound
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:03 PM
May 2021

How much pork are people buying that 20 cents a pound is some devastating price increase?

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
9. Right now the killer is $10 for a $3 two by four.
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:08 PM
May 2021

Yet people here are going for additions, rebuilds and whole houses like they have money to burn.

doc03

(35,361 posts)
11. Overall food prices rose .4% from March up 1% from
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:25 PM
May 2021

a year ago. What we paid 1.00 dollar for last year is now $1.01. that would be a $1.00 increase on a $100.00 order.
What we paid $20.00 for pork last year is now $20.95 and $20.00 of beef is now $20.66. I don't think I will starve to death
any time soon.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
12. Prices need to rise to cut consumption.
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:30 PM
May 2021

This is an issue of finite resources on a dying planet. Less consumption equals a better future for your offspring.

captain queeg

(10,231 posts)
16. I worked in a meat market as a kid. Back in the 70s good ground chuck was 99 cents/lb
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:07 PM
May 2021

I think in general food prices have not gone up nearly as much as other stuff. Cars and homes have gone up at least 10X in that time. Though electronics have barely gone up at all in many cases. I bought a 25” Color TV, I think it was about $500 back then. Much cheaper now.

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
18. If cost's a problem, stores with rotisserie chickens generally sell them as a sort of loss leader...
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:25 AM
Jun 2021

...banking on making their real money from side dishes like potato salad, cole slaw, and rolls.

I rarely if ever buy the sides, and find that one chicken feeds the two of us several times, plus there’s bone broth.

But if I were cooking for a family that expected beef or pork, or gods forbid, trying to purchase meat for a restaurant, it would be a real problem.






NJCher

(35,709 posts)
19. one serving of plant-based "meat"
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:45 AM
Jun 2021

240 calories
uses 87% less water
89% less emissions
96% less land

i love the plant burgers.

womanofthehills

(8,751 posts)
27. It's been reported that the plant burgers have high levels of glyphosate
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 04:11 AM
Jun 2021

Mostly made with non organic GMO legumes

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
32. I'm researching this
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jun 2021

and will be bbl with what I find, but in the meantime, I thank you for the tip. I see it is indeed an issue and what's worse, it's not just the plant based meats, it's all kinds of products, many of which I know are in my kitchen cabinet. This web site, which appears credible and which documents its list, categorizes items that have glyphosate. Here are some examples, but there is way more at the link:

Food Democracy Now! and The Detox Project (source):
– Original Cheerios
– Honey Nut Cheerios
– Wheaties
– Trix
– Annie’s Gluten Free Bunny Cookies Cocoa & Vanilla
– Kellog’s Corn Flakes
– Kellog’s Raisin Bran
– Kashi Organic Promise
– Kellog’s Special K
– Kellog’s Frosted Flakes
– Cheez-It Original
– Cheez-It Whole Grain
– Kashi Soft Bake Cookies, Oatmeal, Dark Chocolate
– Ritz Crackers
– Triscuit Crackers
– Oreo Original
– Oreo Double Stuf Chocolate Sandwich Cookies
– Oreo Double Stuf Golden Sandwich Cookies
– Stacy’s Simply Naked Pita Chips (Frito-Lay)
– Lay’s: Kettle Cooked Original
– Doritos: Cool Ranch
– Fritos (Original) (100% Whole Grain)
– Goldfish crackers original (Pepperidge Farm)
– Goldfish crackers colors
– Goldfish crackers Whole Grain
– Little Debbie Oatmeal Cream Pies
– Oatmeal Cookies Gluten Free
– 365 Organic Golden Round Crackers
– Back to Nature Crispy Cheddar Crackers

source: https://livelovefruit.com/glyphosate-in-food-complete-list/

See link for more extensive list, including wines.

As a gardener, I have NEVER used glyphosate, so this is extremely disturbing news. I now see a cleanout of my kitchen cabinets and a revised shopping list in my future.

DFW

(54,428 posts)
23. I'll take your word for it
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 03:31 AM
Jun 2021

I have serious cholesterol issues, and had to cut out mammal meat 20 years ago. „If it walked on four legs, don‘t eat it.“

As it is, the prices for fresh fish have been daunting for years now.

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