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Let's call Trump's reinstatement talk what it is. (Original Post) CousinIT Jun 2021 OP
IMO, this is an effort to scam his followers for more money. Kaleva Jun 2021 #1
It is both malaise Jun 2021 #2
Plus, he needs the Presidency... dchill Jun 2021 #3
All of the above. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #4
What both pisses me off and stuns me is that his cult malaise Jun 2021 #6
PT Barnum, who said "There's a sucker born every minute..." dchill Jun 2021 #43
For sure malaise Jun 2021 #44
He needs to be President at least one more day ToxMarz Jun 2021 #31
He wants to try the Extemporal Mobius Pardon. dchill Jun 2021 #45
That's his real genius: grifting and coping simultaneously RVN VET71 Jun 2021 #38
I so hope you're wrong malaise Jun 2021 #39
I so hope I'm wrong as well. RVN VET71 Jun 2021 #41
I agree: it's a money scam DFW Jun 2021 #5
The Seditionist in chief thinks he's bigger than the Constitution malaise Jun 2021 #9
I wouldn't give him the satisfaction DFW Jun 2021 #16
LOL for Seven Days in May malaise Jun 2021 #17
Michael Mattoon Flynn. Harker Jun 2021 #25
It's eerie DFW Jun 2021 #42
Time flies... Harker Jun 2021 #47
Yep they never seem to learn Andy823 Jun 2021 #15
Nor do I DFW Jun 2021 #19
This, much more than any serious effort at treason muriel_volestrangler Jun 2021 #7
Sure it is. That's what people said wnylib Jun 2021 #22
My thoughts too! PortTack Jun 2021 #33
Everything he does has at least an element of money grab to it. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #51
Oh... I thought it was just the ramblings of a psychopathic lunatic LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #8
Adolf was a rambling psychopathic lunatic, too. wnylib Jun 2021 #23
good point. LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #52
He is either delusional (psychotic), or a ruthless conman/sociopath. Irish_Dem Jun 2021 #10
Agreed. He's a delusional, psychotic, ruthless, sociopathic conman, and a danger to society. sop Jun 2021 #14
It's in the Donstitution under the Mulligan Clause superpatriotman Jun 2021 #11
the "Mulligan Clause"............. MyOwnPeace Jun 2021 #13
It's also for publicity, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #12
Yes. Because it coordinates with Flynn and others. Captain Zero Jun 2021 #18
As usual DownriverDem Jun 2021 #20
Was Jan 6 a deflection? If so, then wnylib Jun 2021 #26
Or, dementia MoonRiver Jun 2021 #21
Trump should be in jail for sedition. Dawson Leery Jun 2021 #24
Agree, even though it won't happen. wnylib Jun 2021 #29
Any military person that goes against their oath to the constitution is in serious trouble PortTack Jun 2021 #57
As an individual, yes. As a group, wnylib Jun 2021 #61
Throw fat ass in jail and take him out of the equation Blue Owl Jun 2021 #27
Coup attempt #2; or was that the AZ recount? or GA? Maybe this is #4? Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #28
It's treason. Initech Jun 2021 #30
In a word: Sedition... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #32
Prosecute traitors like, Michael "Benedict Arnold" Flynn. Then, jail time. oasis Jun 2021 #34
Yes pretty clearly forces are afoot to remove our government and install Trump by force bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #35
Dumdum will never concede, he'll just keep moving the goalposts Warpy Jun 2021 #36
Somebody needs to tell that fat, orange fuck that a presidential election is not.... LudwigPastorius Jun 2021 #37
Riling Up His Violent Trash Base. No more, no less. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #40
Trump knows the indictment is coming. Reinstatement is another money raising scam. sarcasmo Jun 2021 #46
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #48
True. But, fortunately, he doesn't control the government and military anymore StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #49
Exactly! PortTack Jun 2021 #58
I hope the FBI/CIA or whoever is taking this seriously ecstatic Jun 2021 #50
Treason. KentuckyWoman Jun 2021 #53
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Jun 2021 #54
Goddam it, I'm sick of this shit. dixiechiken1 Jun 2021 #55
There's a sucker born every minute tavernier Jun 2021 #56
The Cuckoo Coup, Season 2... n/t MrModerate Jun 2021 #59
Insurrection part DUEX nt TigressDem Jun 2021 #60

malaise

(296,155 posts)
6. What both pisses me off and stuns me is that his cult
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jun 2021

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can't see through the king of Cons - it's always about him.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
43. PT Barnum, who said "There's a sucker born every minute..."
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 04:59 PM
Jun 2021

...was way underestimating. It's just SO TRUE.

ToxMarz

(2,936 posts)
31. He needs to be President at least one more day
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jun 2021

so he can pardon himself and everyone he forgot to before

RVN VET71

(3,192 posts)
38. That's his real genius: grifting and coping simultaneously
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jun 2021

He’s not going to prison. In all probability he won’t be going to trial -- although he will likely be called upon to testify against a flock of his top level supporters and, of course, his elder sons and daughter.

IMHO, of course. I’ve been wrong often during Loser-45’s campaign in 2014-15 and his term in office. Hell, I even thought he’d issue a whispered concession after he was trounced by Biden/Harris.

But as far as criminal charges against him, I still stand with Quincy Maddox* of Rice University who said of the revelation of Trump’s crimes: “Ain’t nothin’ gonna happen.”

*Kenan Thompson on SNL

RVN VET71

(3,192 posts)
41. I so hope I'm wrong as well.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jun 2021

(And spelcheck, I see, changed the word “couping” to “coping” -- Shoot, if Trump could “cope” like a goddamned man, he would have conceded to Biden, admitted to being Loser-45, and retired to a quiet place with a ghost tweeter to work on his memoirs.)

DFW

(60,192 posts)
5. I agree: it's a money scam
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jun 2021

"Give me money so I can complete my reinstatement."

The Trumpanzees may send him ten million fifteen dollar checks, but an incumbent president who loses his re-election bid does not get "reinstated." If he wins, he gets formally elected by the Electoral College, and inaugurated by a swearing in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court--or, if he loses, he goes home, which is exactly what Trump did.

Even Trump knows that John Roberts isn't going to tell the nation, "Just kidding!" and then swear in Trump for a second term in the middle of everyone's summer vacation.

malaise

(296,155 posts)
9. The Seditionist in chief thinks he's bigger than the Constitution
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jun 2021

He will never be reinstated -and I think DOJ needs to state this clearly

DFW

(60,192 posts)
16. I wouldn't give him the satisfaction
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jun 2021

If I were Garland, I would continue to ignore him, and instead go after guys like Flynn, who really did hint at support for armed insurrection. Trump fantasizing about reinstatement is a political version of the Three Stooges. Flynn really seems to think he‘s a major character in „Seven Days in May.“

DFW

(60,192 posts)
42. It's eerie
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jun 2021

Some of the dialogue could have been taken from a Trump rally or a Republican speech in Congress yesterday.

Andy823

(11,555 posts)
15. Yep they never seem to learn
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jun 2021

the more BS trump spews the more his "cult" donates to his "return" to office. With trump it's all about the money, and his revenge tour to take down every republican he can who is running for office in 2022.

He only wants "loyal" idiots who will do is will in positions of power. I still don't think he will run again.

DFW

(60,192 posts)
19. Nor do I
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jun 2021

This is purely a money grab. I think no one would be more surprised than Trump himself if he were ever to set foot in the White House again.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,214 posts)
7. This, much more than any serious effort at treason
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:34 PM
Jun 2021

He doesn't have the energy or intelligence to overthrow the US government. His running dogs are looking at some stochastic terrorism to improve their own positions, perhaps. They want people terrified of MAGA mobs, so that they'll give in to Republican fascist power-grabs in states, and then Congress. Keeping QAnon types "hopeful" helps this.

wnylib

(26,029 posts)
22. Sure it is. That's what people said
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jun 2021

about his call for a rally in DC on Jan 6, just a fundraiser.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
51. Everything he does has at least an element of money grab to it.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 11:11 PM
Jun 2021

Sometimes, it's all about a very naked and obvious ploy to enrich himself, but sometimes, there is complexity to it. Like this. This is almost Machiavellian, if Machiavelli had had a chromosome issue.

wnylib

(26,029 posts)
23. Adolf was a rambling psychopathic lunatic, too.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jun 2021

It didn't stop him from taking over a nation and starting a world war.

Irish_Dem

(81,299 posts)
10. He is either delusional (psychotic), or a ruthless conman/sociopath.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jun 2021

Any way you slice it, the man is a danger to society.

sop

(18,639 posts)
14. Agreed. He's a delusional, psychotic, ruthless, sociopathic conman, and a danger to society.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jun 2021

gab13by13

(32,345 posts)
12. It's also for publicity,
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jun 2021

which a Narcissist needs. Looks to me like he's getting what he wants.

Captain Zero

(8,906 posts)
18. Yes. Because it coordinates with Flynn and others.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jun 2021

There is a conspiracy afoot. Round them up !!

wnylib

(26,029 posts)
26. Was Jan 6 a deflection? If so, then
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:21 PM
Jun 2021

it seems that "deflections" can be dangerous and require being on alert to deal with them.

wnylib

(26,029 posts)
29. Agree, even though it won't happen.
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jun 2021

At this point, anything we do will be like lighting a match to a fuse. The arrest of Trump or Flynn would ignite the seditious civil war that they are pushing for. So, if we go ahead with the arrests that they have earned, we also need to be prepared to respond with strength to the rebellion that they want. And keep in mind that several members of the military and police share the seditious views of the traitors.

Rocky road ahead. Fasten your seat belts and wear a helmet. We will get through this, but it will be rough.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
57. Any military person that goes against their oath to the constitution is in serious trouble
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 10:12 AM
Jun 2021

wnylib

(26,029 posts)
61. As an individual, yes. As a group,
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 12:58 PM
Jun 2021

it's called an army. Have to defeat them before dealing with their treason.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
28. Coup attempt #2; or was that the AZ recount? or GA? Maybe this is #4?
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:27 PM
Jun 2021

Lock them all up for sedition

bucolic_frolic

(55,165 posts)
35. Yes pretty clearly forces are afoot to remove our government and install Trump by force
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jun 2021

You hear the rhetoric from the election recounts, lawyers, Flynn, and now Trump. This is sedition in full public view. They can't resist telegraphing their intent and thumbing their noses at authority - "What are you gonna do about it?"

I'm glad that the best minds surround our President and elites of government service are weighing in.

I can't believe we'll go down without a fight.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
36. Dumdum will never concede, he'll just keep moving the goalposts
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 02:42 PM
Jun 2021

He can't concede, his personality disorder make admitting he lost impossible.

Unfortunately, the personality cult following him will continue to follow the line of goalposts, just like they do in apocalyptic religious cults. When the event they firmly believe in doesn't happen, they just push the date back a little and deny they got fooled.

LudwigPastorius

(14,732 posts)
37. Somebody needs to tell that fat, orange fuck that a presidential election is not....
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 02:42 PM
Jun 2021

like his golf game.

You don't get "do-overs".

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
50. I hope the FBI/CIA or whoever is taking this seriously
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jun 2021

This is more glaring than the pre-911 warnings. Start with prosecuting the leaders of the terrorist cells: Flynn and drump! Anyone in Congress with ties to the insurrection needs to be expelled and investigated. Because guess what? If drump-coup 2.0 happens, the rethugs who fomented all the hate and treason will dodge all responsibility and blame Biden. Don't give them that chance- stop them now.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
56. There's a sucker born every minute
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:32 AM
Jun 2021

should be the reply each and every time he opens his mouth... on every news show, talk show and newspaper in the country.

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