I understand MLK jr on CNN speaking about Tulsa, but why is Cornel West, who helped put trump in the

[JohnSJ]

WH there?
and of course west is bashing the speech, and trying to undercut anything positive about it

This was the person who hurled every ugly slur at President Obama

CNN is not trying to inform, but create division among Democrats

[hlthe2b]

1. I'm with you on West. He was once an esteemed academician, but now...

...

[JohnSJ]

4. I have nothing good to say about West. It is the same way I feel about Nader. The damage they both

contributed to in electing republicans, giving us the SC we have today, etc. is unforgivable from my perspective

[Hugh_Lebowski]

2. West is revered by the likes of SS, Rogan, Dorn, and Tulsi ... tells you all you need to know

As an aside, this just illustrates why I cannot stomach the M$M.

[JohnSJ]

5. It isn't good for my mental health

[hlthe2b]

11. SS?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

15. sorry, didn't have enuf space ... sarandon nt

[hlthe2b]

16. ah... gotcha.

[padah513]

3. Maybe because they got rid of Rick

Santorum and they need somebody to take his place talking a bunch of crazy sh*t.

[JohnSJ]

6. +++

[Dream Girl]

7. I can't stand that grinning fool.

He’s a big old phony.

[True Blue American]

8. Jason Johnson on Nicole

Is just as bad. He did the same thing. Both two faced agitators. Not helpful with what Democrats are trying to do.

[BigmanPigman]

9. I was just going to post the same reply.

Both of them on at the same time on different channels.

[True Blue American]

13. Yes, and both

Loud mouth agitators who bitch and rant, solving nothing. I thought Claire might take him out.

The expressions on her and Nicole were priceless!

[StarfishSaver]

29. I can't stand Cornel West, but he and Johnson have only two things in common

one specific characteristic more important to many people than the other.

And, fyi, Jason Johnson is no more "loud mouthed" than many other commentators and the last time I checked, there's nothing wrong with being an "agitator" - however, that particular term seems only to applied to certain people.

[True Blue American]

32. When Jason bad mouths

President Biden’s speech what else would you call it? I consider him disrespectful.

His bad mouthing Hillary was the same.

You can have your own opinion.

[StarfishSaver]

36. People "bad mouth" Biden all the time

For example, just today: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215485696

They aren't called "loud-mouth agitators."

Black men and women are frequently called "loud mouths" when we express our opinions when white people expressing similar opinions with the same passion are not.

[ChrisF1961]

24. Would love to see them direct their anger at republicans

but they seem to go after democrats instead.

[uponit7771]

26. Except Johnson is correct West claiming crap like Obama n-wordized the white house is not

[StarfishSaver]

28. Yeah, but he's Black so he's just a "loud mouthed agitator"

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whom some people can't tell apart from Cornel West, because, you know ...

[demosincebirth]

10. Thanks for the heads up. I'll check the listing before I tune in.

I cannot stand him!

[jalan48]

12. West is a respected scholar regardless what anonymous posters on DU think

[True Blue American]

14. He used to be!

[JohnSJ]

17. Anyone who voted for Jill Stein has ZERO credibility. He is a self-promoting person who rarely

listens to other’s views, because from his perspective is the only one that matters

Ask Michael Eric Dyson

Because someone is anonymous on a message board expressing an opinion, does not mean that opinion isn’t worth anything because someone disagrees with it

[StarfishSaver]

31. Why ask Michael Eric Dyson?

What does he have to do with any of this?

[JohnSJ]

39. The post I was responding to discredited "anonymous" posters views as not valid because they

were anonymous, and I threw out someone who was not anonymous that had been critical of Cornell West


“ West is a respected scholar regardless what anonymous posters on DU think”

[StarfishSaver]

40. Lots of people have been very critical of West

But ok.

[JohnSJ]

41. sure

[hlthe2b]

18. He once was. Now, it is all about self-promotion, IMO.

[The Magistrate]

25. Went To Pot Once He Started Drinking That Woolite, Sir

Gets ya every time....

[Etherealoc1]

19. I Cringe

every time I hear him.

Born and raised in Tulsa, how has your

voice helped the residents of your

home town my brotha?

Pure showmanship.

[ms liberty]

20. I have no problem with Dr West. I listen to his opinions with interest.

Just because I don't always agree with him doesn't mean I have to be disrespectful or dismissive of him or his opinions.
I'm a Southern white woman. I'm not going to tell black or brown people to shut up, or change their opinion just because I might disagree with them.

[JohnSJ]

21. Where did I tell him to "shut up"? In fact I don't tell anyone to "shut up" or even change their

mind. However, I have every right to voice my disgust with his voting for Jill Stein instead of Hillary, and encouraging others to do likewise, and I don’t care for racial slurs against President Obama. That was ugly and disrespectful

[ms liberty]

23. I did not say you told him anything.

I said what I would not do. Now goobye.

[True Blue American]

27. No one told them to shut up

But we do have the right to say what we think.

Jason Johnson was always bad mouthing Hillary. It is nothing new with him. Behind that constant smile is an angry man. He exposed it on Nicole.

[ms liberty]

35. Again, I didn't say what someone else did, I said what I will do.

YMMV.
I also prefer not to label all criticism or critique as an "attack." I can't speak to this exact occurrence as I didn't see it. But to expect anyone on a political chat show to be in agreement with me about everything is ludicrous. I would rather not go down that path...because IMO then everybody's under the bus, and no one's in it with you. I never believe everything someone says and am often in disagreement with others; but civility costs nothing, and listening is a pricelss gift. You never know when you might learn something new about a subject, a person, or yourself.

[StarfishSaver]

30. Notice how, although plenty of people criticize Biden

many very passionately, only Johnson is being called a "loud-mouthed agitator" and being compared to another Black man few of us like.

[True Blue American]

33. I did not hear Cornell West

So have nothing to say about him. I can only speak of Johnson.

[True Blue American]

34. I spoke of Johnson because I heard him, saw what

Reaction he got from the other panelists.

[StarfishSaver]

37. Other panelists not agreeing with him doesn't make him a "loud mouth agitator"

And it doesn't make him "Cornel West, Jr." as someone else on this board called him.

[UTUSN]

22. K&R

[oasis]

38. "Mr. Know it All "West is full of shit. He endorsed Jill Stein in 2016.

West heaped a load of devisive crap on the Democratic Party and its candidate, Hillary Clinton.