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tulipsandroses

(5,127 posts)
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 01:18 AM Jun 2021

In Texas, you can use Gun License as Voter ID but you can't use your college ID

I just heard that on tv. Good grief. Have gun can vote. - Anyone that does not see that these so called voter ID laws are nothing but voter suppression is fooling themselves.

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MarineCombatEngineer

(12,429 posts)
5. College ID is not a state issued ID, unlike a firearm CCW ID.
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 08:16 AM
Jun 2021

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A college ID just shows that the student is attending that particular college, but they could be out of state students, whereas, a CCW permit is a state issued ID given only to TX residents.

As pointed out, you can show a utility bill proving that you are a resident of the state.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
13. Yup
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jun 2021

There is plenty of logic to this.

As somebody else pointed out, if a CCW works for a voter ID then just go get one. They arent all that hard to get, especially now. You don't even have to own a gun to get one.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,558 posts)
7. The Texas Democratic Party andRep. Marc Veasey sued and got this law largely gutted
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 11:42 AM
Jun 2021

This law was in effect in its original form only for the 2014 election and it was effective

Chad Dunn represented Marc Veasey and other and got this law gutted. Even the 5th Circuit affirmed this ruling. Now you can vote with a college id or other form of id if you sign a reasonable impairment declaration

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
8. The post office will accept a concealed weapons permit as ID, but not a college ID.
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jun 2021


(I'm a retired postal clerk)

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
9. Its because the gun ID is a legal State ID
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 11:49 AM
Jun 2021

While a college ID is not. Its like this in every State I know of. A school ID is not an official State ID.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
12. This... LTC in Texas is almost identical to a driver's license
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jun 2021

I could also use my security license for the same reason.

Dr. Strange

(25,923 posts)
11. Don't you have to be a resident of the state in order to vote?
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jun 2021

To get the gun license, you have to be a resident of the state, so it would make sense that that could be used. But you can be a resident of a foreign country and still get a college ID while attending a college in any state. The college ID doesn't signify that you're a resident of the state.

tulipsandroses

(5,127 posts)
14. I think a reasonable question is: Has there been a problem with out state students or non citizens
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 01:16 AM
Jun 2021

committing voter fraud? Or is this a problem that republicans are fixing that was never a problem in the first place, and by doing so, limiting the people they think will not vote for them anyway. Which was their original plan anyway.

As far as whether an out of state student can vote in that state.

In 2009, Niemi, Hanmer, and Jackson sought to clarify where college students can vote. Though the issue remains contentious, the answer was clear: students have a legal right to vote in their college town or in their “home town,” whichever they regard as their principal residence—so long, of course, as they meet age and other requirements and do not attempt to vote in two places.

[link:https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/ELJ.2020.0664|

You can declare your college state as your permanent residence. After all you do live there 9 months out of the year for most students.
The question a student would have to ask themselves, do I want my vote to count in my college state or my home state? They can't vote in both places.
Why did the republicans over the last 10 yrs think that this was a pressing issue that they needed to fix? Is it because young people have helped deliver crushing defeats? Not that they had a rash of fraudulent college voters..........

As someone on the program I was watching mentioned, I am sure they studied this issue 6 ways to Sunday to figure out what demographic tends to have the kind of IDs that they want to accept.

It sounds good on the surface to say, oh yeah, having State ID makes sense until you take a deeper look to see its just more republican BS

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