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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 08:36 PM Jun 2021

TX woman accidentally shot her 5 year old son while trying to shoot a 6 month old puppy

https://abc13.com/mom-accidentally-shoots-her-son-trying-to-shoot-dog-5-year-old-shot-by-angelia-mia-vargas-deadly-conduct-of-a-firearm/10728726/


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jason dogwood ™️🏳️?🌈🏳️?⚧️🇺🇸👬🏼
@jasondogwood
A woman accidently shot her 5 year old son in the stomach while she was trying to shoot a 6 month old puppy who was bothering them on their bike ride. Important reminder that Texas will soon allow open carry of firearms without a permit or required training. #WTF
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TX woman accidentally shot her 5 year old son while trying to shoot a 6 month old puppy (Original Post) soothsayer Jun 2021 OP
So many levels of wrong. tanyev Jun 2021 #1
Good grief. marmar Jun 2021 #2
She sounds nice. Dream Girl Jun 2021 #3
You sound smart Doc Sportello Jun 2021 #25
She deserves,to be shot FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #4
This was no accident JohnSJ Jun 2021 #5
Well it ricocheted when she tried to shoot the puppy soothsayer Jun 2021 #6
I will repeat, it was no accident. She had no business shooting a puppy JohnSJ Jun 2021 #10
Oh well yes, she's horrible. soothsayer Jun 2021 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jun 2021 #7
Too bad she didn't take herself out Blue Owl Jun 2021 #8
Right? What a horrible person she is. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2021 #18
wowsers 3auld6phart Jun 2021 #9
Karma has good aim. ZonkerHarris Jun 2021 #11
No, shooting your child is not 'karma'. That is a pretty terrible comment. Demsrule86 Jun 2021 #23
shooting a dog is sociopathic. She wound up shooting her kid. I call that Karma's revenge ZonkerHarris Jun 2021 #24
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Jun 2021 #12
You cover everything. I need to copy and paste this to myself... 3catwoman3 Jun 2021 #14
TY Deuxcents Jun 2021 #15
Fuck this POS in every way possible Marie Marie Jun 2021 #16
This is going to happen with the idiotic carry law LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #19
If you make the choice to pull the trigger, it isn't a accident. Lancero Jun 2021 #20
I'm glad both the child and the dog will be OK Withywindle Jun 2021 #21
I suppose she wasn't charged with anything beyond littering for leaving a bullet Vinca Jun 2021 #22

FoxNewsSucks

(10,414 posts)
4. She deserves,to be shot
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 08:49 PM
Jun 2021

I'm so sick of these stupid fucks. That kid needs to be taken away from her before he grows up thinking that is normal

Response to JohnSJ (Reply #10)

Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Demsrule86

(68,455 posts)
23. No, shooting your child is not 'karma'. That is a pretty terrible comment.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jun 2021

She is obviously nuts...many of these gun nutters believe they can shoot anyone or anything that annoys them.

ZonkerHarris

(24,204 posts)
24. shooting a dog is sociopathic. She wound up shooting her kid. I call that Karma's revenge
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jun 2021

Fuck that woman.
Too bad about the kid but maybe CPS will take the kid away from her and give them a better life now.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
12. People Control, Not Gun Control
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:22 PM
Jun 2021

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman

3catwoman3

(23,943 posts)
14. You cover everything. I need to copy and paste this to myself...
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 09:45 PM
Jun 2021

...so I can find it easily in the future. I have read this many other times, and you lay it out so very well.

You need a license to groom dogs, for gawd’s sake.

During 45 years in pediatrics, I often wished a license could be required to become a parent. The simple ability to juxtapose genitalia is not a sufficient standard/qualification.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
21. I'm glad both the child and the dog will be OK
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:58 AM
Jun 2021

The mother, on the other hand. I wish her nothing but bad things.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
22. I suppose she wasn't charged with anything beyond littering for leaving a bullet
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 07:15 AM
Jun 2021

casing in the street. Let's see - in normal states she might be on the hook for reckless endangerment, attempted manslaughter, child abuse and animal cruelty. But, alas, it's Texas. At most she'll be required to practice target shooting in her suburban backyard (sorry about the the family barbeque, neighbor).

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