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https://abc13.com/mom-accidentally-shoots-her-son-trying-to-shoot-dog-5-year-old-shot-by-angelia-mia-vargas-deadly-conduct-of-a-firearm/10728726/Link to tweet
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A woman accidently shot her 5 year old son in the stomach while she was trying to shoot a 6 month old puppy who was bothering them on their bike ride. Important reminder that Texas will soon allow open carry of firearms without a permit or required training. #WTF
tanyev
(42,514 posts)marmar
(77,049 posts)Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Doc Sportello
(7,484 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,414 posts)I'm so sick of these stupid fucks. That kid needs to be taken away from her before he grows up thinking that is normal
JohnSJ
(92,060 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)JohnSJ
(92,060 posts)soothsayer
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Blue Owl
(50,238 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)3auld6phart
(1,039 posts)Gotta be kin to that shit stick Louie Goober. A pair of Texan idiots.
ZonkerHarris
(24,204 posts)Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)She is obviously nuts...many of these gun nutters believe they can shoot anyone or anything that annoys them.
ZonkerHarris
(24,204 posts)Fuck that woman.
Too bad about the kid but maybe CPS will take the kid away from her and give them a better life now.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werent secured are out of control in our society. As such, heres what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Im not debating the legal language, I just think its the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because its clear that they should never have had a gun.
1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learners license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.
Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a drivers license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman
3catwoman3
(23,943 posts)...so I can find it easily in the future. I have read this many other times, and you lay it out so very well.
You need a license to groom dogs, for gawds sake.
During 45 years in pediatrics, I often wished a license could be required to become a parent. The simple ability to juxtapose genitalia is not a sufficient standard/qualification.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(144,890 posts)Lancero
(3,002 posts)Withywindle
(9,988 posts)The mother, on the other hand. I wish her nothing but bad things.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)casing in the street. Let's see - in normal states she might be on the hook for reckless endangerment, attempted manslaughter, child abuse and animal cruelty. But, alas, it's Texas. At most she'll be required to practice target shooting in her suburban backyard (sorry about the the family barbeque, neighbor).