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spanone

(141,609 posts)
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:34 AM Jun 2021

CNN: Donald Trump is getting worse

(CNN) - The evidence is everywhere.

CNN's Dana Bash reported Thursday morning that former President Donald Trump is "more obsessed than ever with the 2020 election," with one former Trump aide telling her that the former President is only listening to "the bottom of the bottom of the crazies in the barrel."

That follows on reporting from The New York Times and The Washington Post that Trump is convinced that he will, at some point this summer, be reinstated as president once a variety of kooky and non-credible audits come to, uh, fruition.

"Trump has become so fixated on the audits that he suggested recently to allies that their success could result in his return to the White House this year, according to people familiar with comments he has made," wrote the Post.

Trump himself has been sending out a slew of statements on the topic -- blasting Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey and Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich, both Republicans, for not doing more to support the ridiculous recount in Maricopa County. And on Monday, Trump blasted this out: "Great work is being done in Georgia revealing the Election Fraud of the 2020 Presidential Election. But, we must not allow ANYONE to compromise these ballots by leaving the building unsecured, which was done late Friday. Republicans and Patriots must protect this site and the Absentee Ballots."


https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/03/politics/donald-trump-2020-election-fraud/index.html
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CNN: Donald Trump is getting worse (Original Post) spanone Jun 2021 OP
You would think the Georgia AG or local prosecutor exboyfil Jun 2021 #1
Absolutely! I'd support that. Dave says Jun 2021 #19
He's going crazy Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #2
"He's going to cross some lines that even the GOP has to repudiate." CrispyQ Jun 2021 #10
He's going to call for violence explicitely Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #11
I'm waiting for him to reveal that the people he appointed to the SCOTUS explicitly Sibelius Fan Jun 2021 #16
I'm not sure the GQP will ever repudiate anything he says or does. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #24
GOOGLE "NARCISSISTIC COLLAPSE" Grasswire2 Jun 2021 #26
Better headline ScratchCat Jun 2021 #3
"CNN and MSN are getting desperate to keep Trump in the news." LenaBaby61 Jun 2021 #21
I hope his arrest comes soon, and real quiet-like. Aristus Jun 2021 #4
He knows that being president protected him from legal action dalton99a Jun 2021 #5
First, who? Hugin Jun 2021 #6
"Trump is convinced that he will, at some point this summer, be reinstated as president" Botany Jun 2021 #7
You point out something ScratchCat Jun 2021 #9
I don't think the pre-election polls in 2020 were that far off and that Biden won by a bigger margin Botany Jun 2021 #15
agree completely. mopinko Jun 2021 #23
... Hugin Jun 2021 #12
He may be saying it, but I doubt that he believes it. Chainfire Jun 2021 #29
Trump does NOT live in reality andym Jun 2021 #8
He knows what he's saying is bs, duforsure Jun 2021 #13
Get him a white jacket with sleeves as long as his tie struggle4progress Jun 2021 #14
Lost the popular vote in 2016 by 2.8 million votes gratuitous Jun 2021 #17
This is his latest ploy to get money from his idiot base. GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #18
I Think Trump Needs to evaulted by a psychiatrist. twin_ghost Jun 2021 #20
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2021 #22
Maybe that is the plan ace3csusm Jun 2021 #25
He is like Hitler in his final days, Chainfire Jun 2021 #27
Time for the straight jacket. demosincebirth Jun 2021 #28
The whole charade is just his way of fighting the indictments he's facing gulliver Jun 2021 #30
Trump will find out that ......HE IS ..".NOT".....ABOVE THE LAW Stuart G Jun 2021 #31
Trump was an early disciple of Norman Vincent Peale... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #32
Getting? MFM008 Jun 2021 #33
This is not just "another con." Donald Trump actually believes every word of it. jmowreader Jun 2021 #34

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
1. You would think the Georgia AG or local prosecutor
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jun 2021

would like to give Trump plenty of opportunity to explain to a grand jury how the 2020 election was stolen and the steps he took to address that theft. I think Lindsay Graham should be given the same opportunity.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
2. He's going crazy
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jun 2021

We've seen a stark raving lunatic, but I think his public persona takes a crazy turn when he next emerges for his rallies. I believe his first few rallies will be big events, but then they'll fizzle out, but those first few rallies will be bonkers and will damage him. He's going to cross some lines that even the GOP has to repudiate.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
10. "He's going to cross some lines that even the GOP has to repudiate."
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:54 AM
Jun 2021

Well that would sure be something to see. Although the thought is also scary as hell.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
11. He's going to call for violence explicitely
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:58 AM
Jun 2021

That is coming, bank on it. And he won't even hedge it for deniability's sake.

He'll say something like, "Now is the time to get your guns and take the fight to this government, peaceful means are no longer an option." And even the GOP will have to distance themselves. He'll go way beyond what Flynn said this week. He's going to openly encourage violent overthrow of our Democracy.

Trump is a plague on the GOP, he keeps pushing them one step further, and then one step further after that. The next steps are going to be big ones.

Sibelius Fan

(24,808 posts)
16. I'm waiting for him to reveal that the people he appointed to the SCOTUS explicitly
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:03 PM
Jun 2021

promised to do everything in their power to keep him in office.

Ocelot II

(130,529 posts)
24. I'm not sure the GQP will ever repudiate anything he says or does.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jun 2021

He's already crossed a whole lot of lines previously thought to be uncrossable, and with only a very few exceptions they didn't blink.

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
26. GOOGLE "NARCISSISTIC COLLAPSE"
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jun 2021

Narcissistic Collapse
This happens when they can no longer manage to maintain the charade, or the gap between their false self and real self. Hard reality knocks, and the vulnerability of their false self is laid bare. Their looks catch up with them. They’ve pissed so many supporters off along the way that people steer clear. The players in their make-believe world including friends, enablers and flying monkeys wake up to realise that the whole victim narrative was a string of lies and that is they who are the toxic ones, and not their victims. That none of their apparent “success” in life is actually attributable to them but was essentially stolen or borrowed from others. That all of their crazy and abusive exes are in fact not unhinged, but were made to appear that way by all of the crazy-baiting and drama deliberately caused by the narc themselves. Their children wake up to the reality that their normal range parents loved them all along.

Mental Breakdown
Narcissistic Collapse presents itself as a massive mental breakdown after which they become withdrawn and isolated. They struggle to face themselves, and as a result can’t face the world.

Narcissistic Collapse is generally permanent – the narcissist never recovers for the rest of their life.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
21. "CNN and MSN are getting desperate to keep Trump in the news."
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jun 2021
THIS 👆🏻

However, I also feel that the wild, lying, racist hog is going to grow more and more mentally/physically unstable, and in a shorter amount of time.

Aristus

(72,186 posts)
4. I hope his arrest comes soon, and real quiet-like.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jun 2021

The day he's taken into custody at last, the howler monkey are going to fling so much shit, a long, bloody, protracted civil war will look desirable by comparison...

It needs to happen, but on the down-low...

dalton99a

(94,115 posts)
5. He knows that being president protected him from legal action
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jun 2021

and he wants that protection back



Botany

(77,323 posts)
7. "Trump is convinced that he will, at some point this summer, be reinstated as president"
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jun 2021

Trump does not believe that but is more than willing to sell that fantasy in order to
keep his grift going.

BTW some time last summer some senior people told Trump that he was going to lose
and that there was nothing that was going to change that. Trump reportedly blew up
and not much later he tore out Jackie Kennedy's Rose Garden in a fit of pique over
his upcoming loss in the election. Botany =

ScratchCat

(2,740 posts)
9. You point out something
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:51 AM
Jun 2021

that makes all this hand wringing by the GOP about the election even more ridiculous - virtually nobody was predicting Trump would win re-election in the first place. Even Fox News had him losing the week before the election. By the way they are acting, you'd think the polls showed the exact opposite.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
15. I don't think the pre-election polls in 2020 were that far off and that Biden won by a bigger margin
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Thu Jun 3, 2021, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)

... and the senate races in KY, ME, and SC were funky. After doing election protection work for
years I think that the GOP (and in 2016 Russia) rat fucks with elections but "they" can't rig a landslide.
In 2020 Trump and the GOP were so pissed off when the big vote by mail movement went through
because that by passed the GOP electronic voting machines.



Hugin

(37,848 posts)
12. ...
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:59 AM
Jun 2021

It is my sincerely held religious belief that if 15 minutes of unfiltered never man's outbursts were to find it's way into the mass media or online, he would have very few supporters left (or people who could stomach it) around 20 seconds in.

I cite as evidence Dr Mary Trump's statements on the matter and rest my case.

It is astonishing the amount of editing, manipulation, and time was consumed by those who had access to him to make any view of him the public received be any semblance of human. A truly remarkable (and puke worthy) feat that so much of our tax payer money was expended on this horseshit.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
29. He may be saying it, but I doubt that he believes it.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jun 2021

Just another tactic to try to stay in the game with his followers and keep the money rolling in. Trump's worst nightmare is playing out, his support is trickling away and he is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Even without prosecution, I don't think that he is strong enough to bear his loss of power much longer.

andym

(6,066 posts)
8. Trump does NOT live in reality
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:50 AM
Jun 2021

Mary Trump made that very clear. He is a living example of the what happens when you go too far with Peale's "The Power of Positive Thinking." Unfortunately, he is taking a lot of followers with him.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
13. He knows what he's saying is bs,
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jun 2021

It's for attention, because he knows he isn't relevant anymore . He's losing donors, and voters to grift from, so he uses propaganda to con people into believing the lies he's projecting. He's not crazy, he's been doing this for years, successfully. His rubes will send money with no clue it's just another con, just like he'll be running again. It's all about generating money to fill his pockets now. He'll steal from the RNC too.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Lost the popular vote in 2016 by 2.8 million votes
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jun 2021

What does the former guy or any of his supporters think he did during his four years defiling the office that merited re-election? He lost the popular vote in 2020 by 7.1 million votes, a margin that's probably smaller than it should have been but for voter suppression efforts in Republican enclaves.

Also, he's going on about the security of the ballots while conceding that the building holding those ballots was left unsecured? (I have no knowledge whether that's true or not, but let's just pretend it is.) If the building was left unsecured "late Friday," the ballots therein have been compromised. This isn't like awarding yourself a mulligan when you shank your tee shot into the woods.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
18. This is his latest ploy to get money from his idiot base.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:06 PM
Jun 2021

He knows exactly what he is doing. He's a criminal.

H2O Man

(79,048 posts)
22. Recommended.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jun 2021

I've noted in numerous posts over the past few years that sociopaths under pressure often experience periods of psychosis. It is important to recognize the pressure of investigations is connected to Trump's delusional thinking that he will find a "safe space" in the White House.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
27. He is like Hitler in his final days,
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 01:00 PM
Jun 2021

Moving armies, that no longer existed, around maps in the bunker. Surrounded by only those who would tell him what he wanted to hear, awaiting a miracle that would never come. Only when the Russians were overhead and knocking on the door did he recognize the fact that it was all over. Of course, to the end, he blamed it on the lack of strength and will of the German people and took a coward's way out. If Trump's failures are gnawing at his soul the only thing I can say, is no one ever deserved it more.

gulliver

(13,985 posts)
30. The whole charade is just his way of fighting the indictments he's facing
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 01:21 PM
Jun 2021

He'll sacrifice anyone or anything, including the whole country. He really is trying to get away with being above the law.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
32. Trump was an early disciple of Norman Vincent Peale...
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 01:44 PM
Jun 2021

... because of his father.

The "power of positive thinking" constantly espoused by Peale can easily become delusional.

Because of his years of privilege, this might be one of the few times that Trump will actually learn it was bullsh*t.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
34. This is not just "another con." Donald Trump actually believes every word of it.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 01:12 AM
Jun 2021

If someone were to take a nice new copy of the DSM-5 and remove all the conditions that don't apply to Donald Trump, the book wouldn't be that much smaller than it was before you started tearing pages out of it.

In Trump's mind, he was the perfect president, the most honest, the hardest working and the best looking, and everyone in the world loved him, well except for those nasty Democrats. So, obviously, he was going to win election in a landslide over "Sleepy Joe Biden" and just keep on making America great again.

I feel safe in saying that his family and the few advisors he trusts kept him far, far away from news sources that predicted Biden was going to beat Trump easily during the campaign. They also kept him away from protestors, and they probably painted over the windows of the presidential limousine.

When he lost the election, advisors like Mike Lindell and Sidney Powell convinced him Biden benefited from massive fraud and "don't worry Mr. President, when the fraud is revealed you'll be reinstated. Just you see. It'll all be better soon."

I also feel confident that Trump will attempt another insurrection. This time, if anyone gets killed in the insurrection they need to do what Georgia did to Kelly Gissendaner: convict the son-of-a-bitch of capital murder even though he didn't kill anyone personally, sentence him to death and stand him up against a fucking wall. And anyone who killed at the behest of Donald Trump needs to meet the same fate. If his fanboiz want to start a civil war, fine: most states' Army National Guards own Apache attack helicopters and the Hydra 70 pod, which fires 70 rockets 2.75" in diameter with high explosive heads, that can be mounted to an Apache solves a lot of problems pretty easily.

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