Can We Buy Manchin's & Sinema's Votes?.....

[global1]

Let's talk the other 48 Dem Senators into donating $25,000 each. By my calculation that's $1.2 million total dollars or $600,000 each for Manchin and Sinema.

The money can go to their re-election campaigns.

The only thing we'd ask in return is that the vote to end the filibuster.

These other 48 Dem Senators should each be making a visit to Manchin and Sinema's D.C. offices to put pressure on them to end the filibuster. There should be a revolving door of Dem Senators - hell also include the Dem's in the House - to continually badgering both of them until they give in and vote with all the Dems.

I can't believe that Schumer and Biden can't apply pressure on those two. There must be something that will get them to vote with the rest of the Dems.

[pandr32]

1. If we can buy their votes

...maybe someone else already did.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Yep.

[Funtatlaguy]

2. Give it a shot. Wouldn't be the first time it's been done in Congress.

[miyazaki]

3. Ya. Buy em' a one way ticket to Uranus.

[ret5hd]

8. No, yours.

[Submariner]

4. Part of the Biden infrastructure plan

is affordable senior assisted living, which would be beneficial to many older veterans.

Manchin is a 60s draft dodger, and now he is voting against a safety net that will hurt the same veterans he ran out on, the same vets that did double watches underway, because the frat boys were too busy partying away.

I don’t feel that chickshit draft dodgers should have the right to cast a vote to screw over veterans, but that’s just me.

[BGBD]

13. Do you

Have some evidence of "draft dodging?"

[Submariner]

15. His bio shows no military service

At a year younger than me, he was more than healthy enough to get his football scholarship, so to me, it means he was also healthy enough to chip in and share the load with everyone else our age in the service.

No one is obligated to serve in the military. He made his choice. But he shouldn't be voting against Vietnam Era veteran best interests.

[former9thward]

17. He was injured in a football practice which ended his football career.

Most likely that type of injury would also keep him out of the military.

Since you are throwing around insults, are all of our presidents who did not serve "draft dodgers"?

[Submariner]

18. Yeah...

draft dodger cracker Saxby Chambliss who accused Vietnam Vet triple amputee Max Cleland of being a Taliban allied with Bin Laden said he couldn't serve in the military either, because he got a boo boo on his knee from being a school football jock.

Likely excuse, but that's to be expected from republicans. Not from a Democratic senator. But these football injury stories from people my age are old hat, but they work for privileged.

I wasn't addressing draft dodger/presidents, just the policy votes by draft evaders/dodgers affecting Vietnam/Cold War era veterans..period.

[OneBlueDotS-Carolina]

5. The Biden admin give Manchin's wife a good job...

Maybe the admin can find a job for his kid with the fake MBA, the pharm she ran (into the ground) is bankrupt, think Mylan epipen.

[BGBD]

14. Mylan isn't bankrupt

It merged with Upjohn a couple of years ago they took a new name. That company had 12 billion in revenue last year.

[albacore]

6. I know DU doesn't like it when posters say what the Party should do...

But..
I know LBJ would speak personally with both of them and offer a carrot.... and a stick.
"Do this, and you get this...
Do that, and you not only don't get this, but you'll get that...and you don't want that, believe me."

Or, to quote Teddy Roosevelt "Get them by the balls, and their hearts and minds will follow."

[StarfishSaver]

10. Times - and Congress - were very different then

Among other things, the Senate no longer has earmarks and administrations no longer have broad spending authority that can be used as leverage the way they were back in LBJ's days. Also, back in the day, the absence of serious campaign finance restrictions gave party leaders, committee chairs, and presidents a lot of bait to use to "convince" recalcitrant members and senators to have a change of heart.

Things operate very differently than they did 60+ years ago.

[LowerManhattanite]

9. Somebody already beat us to it.

😡😡😡
#checktheirfinancials

[msfiddlestix]

11. I think that might be under the heading of Bribery. Buy I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.

Besides, It is my opinion, (as in purely speculative based only on instinct) the sole reason neither one of them wants to help end the filibuster, is because the filibuster gives them the perfect foil to avoid voting on a plethora of bills, proposals they don't want to see passed.

The reason they don't want to see a number of bills passed, is because they don't want to deal with their voting record during their next campaigns.

Why bother when they can just sit it out, and get a free ride in the Senate. After all, it pays fairly well, you get good benefits meet a lot of lobbyist, make beneficial connections and jeeze,who knows what might be in the cards for them in the future? if they just ride this term out without passing most if not all of Dem's bills... they can pretty much count on being there until they retire unless of course they have other opportunities beyond the Senate.

That's how I've been assessing the situation for a number of weeks now, I feel like I'm on target about that.

or maybe it's fairly obvious to everyone else. Except the question about the two keep getting asked, and I haven't seen any one respond with this answer. It's seems obvious to me, maybe I'm wrong.

[msfiddlestix]

12. global1, they don't want these bills to pass, that's why they don't want to kill the filibuster

they don't want any of these bills pass, because they don't want it to be used against them in their next campaign.

That's my opinion. Unless something radical changes with their attitudes on the filibuster, I'm sticking to it, and taking it to the bank.

[Bettie]

16. Well each and every one of the Republican senators

appear to be owned by some entity or other...so why not buy a couple of our own?