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Nevilledog

(55,134 posts)
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 08:30 PM Jun 2021

The state of Alabama took his gun away. When authorities gave it back, he shot and killed his wife.




https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1269234

HOOVER, Alabama — Late one night in February 2019, a 31-year-old woman in a troubled marriage was rushed to an emergency room in a Birmingham, Alabama, suburb, with a gunshot wound in her upper right arm.

"He shot me," Megan Montgomery told doctors, according to an investigative report obtained exclusively by NBC News. By "he," she meant her husband, a local police officer named Jason McIntosh.

Police took her husband’s pistol away. Nine months later, the state’s top law enforcement agency gave it back, despite pending domestic violence charges and an active protective order. Just 16 days after that, he used the gun to shoot and kill her during another late-night dispute.

Megan’s loved ones were shattered by the loss of a devoted daughter and sister, a marketing professional with a passion for animal rescue. They were stunned to be told recently by NBC News that the state had given her abuser back the weapon he used to kill her.

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The state of Alabama took his gun away. When authorities gave it back, he shot and killed his wife. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2021 OP
Friggin gunners. Hoyt Jun 2021 #1
Domestic abusers are child sex abusers Sucha NastyWoman Jun 2021 #2
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Jun 2021 #3
Nice post! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #6
blah blah blah Beaverhausen Jun 2021 #10
apparently you do not understand... Sancho Jun 2021 #11
I think Sancho has some good ideas that would also help in situations you mention. Hoyt Jun 2021 #12
Agreed. Snackshack Jun 2021 #14
Guns are meant to kill people. Anyone, anytime. StClone Jun 2021 #4
Excellent observation world wide wally Jun 2021 #7
Love a good gun rant. This one is outstanding. Hoyt Jun 2021 #13
So he remained on the job also after he shot her the first time ? JI7 Jun 2021 #5
He resigned during the dept. investigation of the incident (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #9
Read the whole article ... its disturbing on so many levels ... Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #8

Sucha NastyWoman

(3,023 posts)
2. Domestic abusers are child sex abusers
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 08:37 PM
Jun 2021

Seems like they never get better and so few women understand that.

Sancho

(9,211 posts)
3. People Control, Not Gun Control
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 08:38 PM
Jun 2021

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman

Beaverhausen

(24,706 posts)
10. blah blah blah
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jun 2021

go piss up a rope

Women whose domestic abusers have access to a firearm are five times as likely to be shot and killed, according to research funded by the U.S. Department of Justice.

Snackshack

(2,596 posts)
14. Agreed.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jun 2021

None of this infringes on any “right to bear arm”.

In this particular case the guy should have never been given the gun back the domestic abuse charge supersedes the private property BS. Glad he did not get the DP. Being a former cop let him spend the next 30yrs in fear of the GP like the fear she had of him. Such a tragic story that simply happens way too many times.

If the relationship is over move on, walk away don’t be a d@ck.

StClone

(11,869 posts)
4. Guns are meant to kill people. Anyone, anytime.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 08:40 PM
Jun 2021

Got a problem? Shoot it. Get upset? shoot! Some poor kid being harassed by bullies and hides in your bushes. Shoot the kid. Wife is a problem, talks back, won't get your beer. shoot her. Problems solved. Workplace got you down, no mental health screening, support, or counseling. No problem. Shoot 'em all then shoot yourself. It's so NRA...so Gun industry, it's so cool...it's all good.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Read the whole article ... its disturbing on so many levels ...
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jun 2021

Guns are a fucking plague.

And so are violent men.

The 2A itself has caused absolutely countless unnecessary deaths.

I'd wager FAR FAR more deaths than it has prevented.

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