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edhopper

(37,370 posts)
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:46 PM Jun 2021

Trump isn't losing it.

He doesn't think he will be reinstated.
Anybody watching him the last 4 years would see he is an ignorant ass who just says bullshit.
If people react to it, he keeps saying it.
He will keep saying bullshit to get reactions and feed his ego.
He is also saying shit to stay out of jail.
Fortunately, his cult has nothing to say about that.

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Trump isn't losing it. (Original Post) edhopper Jun 2021 OP
You can't lose something,... JoeOtterbein Jun 2021 #1
His saying that he's getting reinstated serves two possible purposes TlalocW Jun 2021 #2
A third purpose would be to raise money radical noodle Jun 2021 #6
That's the fleecing the flock possibility that I mentioned TlalocW Jun 2021 #16
If the Justice Department whims out Dan Jun 2021 #11
He gave a date - August. That was the start of a call for more violence from the traitors. Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #19
Still can't tell whether or when he believes his lies soothsayer Jun 2021 #3
Yes I am leaning towards the theory that he is a sociopathic con artist who is just raising money. Irish_Dem Jun 2021 #4
I lean toward delusional, or as your profession would say "bat shit crazy." TomSlick Jun 2021 #8
So do I. ShazzieB Jun 2021 #9
"The Word" from Mar-a-lago is the the former guy is convinced he will be "reinstated." TomSlick Jun 2021 #10
He has lied so much that he can't honestly tell the different between truth and his Dan Jun 2021 #13
They will never accept it edhopper Jun 2021 #31
Who does he think is going "reinstate" him? nt Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #20
From Bedminster. He's summering up north soothsayer Jun 2021 #27
He could be both. Sociopath and psychotic. A particularly bad combination. Irish_Dem Jun 2021 #30
Plus - he just loves stirring up shit. Makes his empty self feel alive. SAD. Marie Marie Jun 2021 #5
He only lies ... Kablooie Jun 2021 #7
"isn't losing it" - thought it was going to be about: Never had it (to lose) UTUSN Jun 2021 #12
GOP is making money off of his lies, stirring up anger, another insurrection and enabling massive... CousinIT Jun 2021 #14
This (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #17
YES !!! Maddow put it together on Thursday it's just not Trump saying stupid shit uponit7771 Jun 2021 #25
Not sure the gop is getting the money. He's diverting it to himself ha soothsayer Jun 2021 #28
Hr's losing it. It's kinda hard to hoodwink a hardcore POS like C.W. Cooke. speak easy Jun 2021 #15
This is calculated to 'read' to Cult45 in a completely different way than you and I perceive it Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #18
Trump really believed he could overturn the electoral college on 1/6. speak easy Jun 2021 #21
There are other explanations for 1/6 apart from really believing he could change the results Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #23
'it's a mistake to act like we're certain about anything with that guy' speak easy Jun 2021 #26
Nobody actually knows what's going on in his head. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #22
Lol ... you and I think a lot alike sometimes CF ;) nt Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #24
I'm in this camp despite human thumb Jason Miller denying he believes it soothsayer Jun 2021 #29
I get what you're saying malaise Jun 2021 #32
True edhopper Jun 2021 #33
Yes - this is who he has always been malaise Jun 2021 #34
At one level, you're certainly correct Silent3 Jun 2021 #35

TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
2. His saying that he's getting reinstated serves two possible purposes
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 11:01 PM
Jun 2021

Probably both. He's going to be able to fleece his flock a little more, and there's a good chance that indictments will start raining down on him and his worthless kids before then or actually in August which will rile up his flock who will think that he's being cheated out of being reinstated. In regards to the latter, he's probably hoping that the threat of violence will make prosecutors leave him alone.

TlalocW

Dan

(5,179 posts)
11. If the Justice Department whims out
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 12:52 AM
Jun 2021

Out of fear of Trump’s flock, then they should never arrest another person of color because of fear of unrest.

If the United States Government is that chicken shit, then they should never mess in the affairs of another country.

If the Biden’s DOJ is that afraid, then they should hand over the keys to the stupid bitch from Ga.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
19. He gave a date - August. That was the start of a call for more violence from the traitors.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 02:25 AM
Jun 2021

The traitors are going to try some shit in August, possibly July. Stay tuned.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
3. Still can't tell whether or when he believes his lies
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 11:08 PM
Jun 2021

His personality disorder (and power of positive thinking beliefs) might translate into needing to believe some of the nonsense he spews.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
4. Yes I am leaning towards the theory that he is a sociopathic con artist who is just raising money.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 11:14 PM
Jun 2021

But I cannot rule out the theory that he is bat shit crazy.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
9. So do I.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jun 2021

Based on various things I've read lately, I tend to think that, aside from anything else that may be going on, he's genuinely delusional.

Of course I can't prove it, but that's my take, fwiw.

TomSlick

(13,013 posts)
10. "The Word" from Mar-a-lago is the the former guy is convinced he will be "reinstated."
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 12:45 AM
Jun 2021

That's delusional.

Dan

(5,179 posts)
13. He has lied so much that he can't honestly tell the different between truth and his
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 12:54 AM
Jun 2021

Version of reality.

This will also serve in his defense, he is bat shit crazy.

Now the funny part, just imagine what 75 million people will feel when they discover that he is bat shit crazy and has been for years, and that numerous professional people in the mental health field will testify to that - and including people that were close to him when he held the levers of government.

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
31. They will never accept it
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jun 2021

we already see they have no problem believing lies and refusing to accept the truth.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
7. He only lies ...
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 11:51 PM
Jun 2021

So if he says he will be reinstated he’s telling you that he won’t be.

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
14. GOP is making money off of his lies, stirring up anger, another insurrection and enabling massive...
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 01:01 AM
Jun 2021

voter suppression laws to be passed nationwide PLUS laws that let GOP legislatures overturn the results of any election if they dislike the result.

His LIES serve multiple purposes: keeping money pouring in, keeping idiots angry so they'll support tossing Democracy in the shitter and so they'll attempt another violent coup if a Democrat ever wins any public office again - especially the Presidency.

He knows EXACTLY what he's doing and WE know why.

The fact that it provides him with the narcissistic supply he lives for -- is just the cherry on top of Democracy's casket.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
28. Not sure the gop is getting the money. He's diverting it to himself ha
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 07:28 AM
Jun 2021

They knew he was a snake...

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
15. Hr's losing it. It's kinda hard to hoodwink a hardcore POS like C.W. Cooke.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 01:44 AM
Jun 2021

Trump is “so unmoored from the real world that it is hard to know where to begin in attempting to explain him".There is 'nothing to be gained' for a POS like Cooke, to say Trump is living is la la land, but here it is.

The editor of National Review doesn't put his reputation out there for fun.

Donald Trump does indeed believe quite genuinely that he — along with former senators David Perdue and Martha McSally — will be “reinstated” to office this summer after “audits” of the 2020 elections in Arizona, Georgia, and a handful of other states have been completed. I can attest, too, that Trump is trying hard to recruit journalists, politicians, and other influential figures to promulgate this belief — not as a fundraising tool or an infantile bit of trolling or a trial balloon, but as a fact.

And there is no upside

Donald Trump [cannot] be “reinstated” to the presidency. That is not how America works, how America has ever worked, or how America can ever work. American politicians do not lose their reelection races only to be reinstalled later on, as might the second-place horse in a race whose winner was disqualified. The idea is otherworldly and obscene. There is nothing to be gained for conservatism by pretending otherwise. To acknowledge that Trump is living in a fantasy world does not wipe out his achievements or render anything else he has said incorrect.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
18. This is calculated to 'read' to Cult45 in a completely different way than you and I perceive it
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 02:10 AM
Jun 2021

The takeaway for them is 'This isn't a scam, cause Trump really believes it'.

And all that entails.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
21. Trump really believed he could overturn the electoral college on 1/6.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 02:34 AM
Jun 2021

To the extent the guy 'really believes' in anything, he believes his magical thinking can bend reality to his will; Like a sharpie changing the course of a hurricane. For all the people telling him it can't be done, he only needs a frootloop or three to say that it can. After all, wiser heads told him he could not win the nomination and election in 2016, didn't they?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
23. There are other explanations for 1/6 apart from really believing he could change the results
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 02:42 AM
Jun 2021

One example is the thrill he'd get from watching a whole bunch of people do something so radical on his behalf. I can think of a few others.

Not to say you might not totally be right, but I think it's a mistake to act like we're certain about anything with that guy, other than the fact that he's a pathological narcissist.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
26. 'it's a mistake to act like we're certain about anything with that guy'
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 03:21 AM
Jun 2021

Yes, I think that's exactly right.

Crunchy Frog

(28,280 posts)
22. Nobody actually knows what's going on in his head.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 02:39 AM
Jun 2021

People thinking that they do is part of what leads them to underestimate him.

The only things I'm willing to say are that he is unpredictable and remains dangerous.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
29. I'm in this camp despite human thumb Jason Miller denying he believes it
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 07:31 AM
Jun 2021

Guy is scary and dangerous.

malaise

(296,111 posts)
32. I get what you're saying
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 09:58 AM
Jun 2021

but the reason he says these things is because he lost it ages ago. He is such a sick narcissist that he will say and do anything to keep power. He really believes he is above the law and that he is some kind of gawd - that is madness

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
33. True
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jun 2021

the not knowing or caring what the truth is was there from the beginning.
So he is behaving as he had been all along.
The talk of him "losing it" assumes he has somehow changed since he was ousted.

malaise

(296,111 posts)
34. Yes - this is who he has always been
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 10:03 AM
Jun 2021

complete with all the made up personas that he invented for self promotion.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
35. At one level, you're certainly correct
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jun 2021

Trump definitely just says shit for the reaction it gets, and any advantage it might give him.

But, while I can't be certain about this, on another level doing the above has been so successful for Trump that I think there's a good chance he believes he can make the shit he says come true, and is genuinely shocked when it doesn't work out that way.

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