Release the f**king unredacted Mueller Report!

[edhopper]

It's time for the truth to come out and the full scope of the Barr cover up revealed.

[cate94]

1. K & R

[Fullduplexxx]

2. It's all one big club

[I_UndergroundPanther]

3. Hell yeah reveal the truth!

All of it!

[onecaliberal]

4. Why isn't is being released?

Why are all of the Dems who were screaming about releasing it when dump was in office silent about it’s release now.

[edhopper]

6. That is

a very good question.

[triron]

25. Ditto. So are pundits like Rachel Maddow. WTF is going on?!

[Lucky Luciano]

9. Because eleventy dimensional chess or something.

I so hope I can eat those words later if it really is eleventy dimensional chess.

[onecaliberal]

10. It's the longest game of eleventh dimensional chess in history.

[KS Toronado]

20. Never heard of "eleventh dimensional chess"

But that is a good description of what's going on. Basically the DOJ/FBI are frying the smaller fish and getting them
to flip on the bigger fish ie: Herr Qrump. It's just the way these things work out. We need some patience to allow
this to play out. I suspect they may be taking down a lot of big name reQublicans. Let's not rush it.

[msfiddlestix]

27. we don't *some* patience

We need a cargo ship of patience. We've only been waiting since the spring of 2017, and then 2018, and then for sure in 2019!!

4 1/2 years.. going on 5 years of knowing, but we had to wait until the special prosecutors investigation and on and on and on...

I read a couple of days ago, that Mueller and a couple of other special investigators will be TEACHING A CLASS on the Mueller investigation of Trump et al. Considering what this nation's been through, what we're still going through... and considering how he refused to testify to Congress until finally he did make his appearance.

And I swear I couldn't believe we didn't learn anything new.

But he's going to teach a class on this very subject.

[StarfishSaver]

35. Why do you need to see the unredacted report right now?

Is your need to see it immediately more important than DOJ's need for it in investigations that could be jeopardized by public disclosure of the report now?

[msfiddlestix]

49. Mueller Investigation ended in 2019

2 Years ago, why should we not see the full report now? Hell, the entire country should have seen the full, unredacted report then.

Mueller is teaching a class on that investigation. But the country needs to learn the details of that investigation, not just a class of law students. Seems logical to me.

[StarfishSaver]

51. The Biden Justice Department only began investigating in late January

You have no idea what they're investigating, whom they're targeting, what the evidence is, and what they need to make their case. Undoubtedly, the unredacted report is full of information that is critical to a successful prosecution. Releasing it publicly now at this stage could jeopardize the investigation and the case.

Four months is not a long time. Public curiosity or frustrated Democrats' desire for red meat does not outweigh the need to prosecute this case properly. We'll get the information we want, but there is no need - other than impatience and curiosity - for the general public to have it now if it is being used for investigative purposes. Unless you think that Biden and Garland are weak or corrupt, it would behoove you to be patient and allow them to do what we elected them to do.

[msfiddlestix]

52. Wait. You're saying the case which has already been investigated and Prosecuted is now re-opened?

I missed that report. I did recently uninstall Sling which provided me with live MSNBC broadcasst. I watched it daily since the election.

I come here to catch up on these types of reports, but I missed it.

Or are you assuming the Mueller investigation has been re-opened?

[StarfishSaver]

53. No, that's not what I'm saying

I'm saying that the Biden Justice Department is investigating Trump and his crowd for all sorts of crimes, including but not limited to crimes that were part of the Mueller investigation. It is likely that there is information in the unredacted report that is critical to that probe and releasing that information publicly at this point could jeopardize the investigation.

Or do you think that they are covering up the information for a bad purpose? That would mean, of course, that they are corrupt and complicit with Trump, bar, and the other criminals in that circle. Do you think Biden and Garland are corrupt and complicit?

[msfiddlestix]

54. No, I'm not saying Biden admin is covering up for a bad purpose

I'm saying I don't understand what the motive for keeping it from the public is. I suspect it might be something akin to "letting sleeping dogs lie" and just move on, so that country can "heal" and be less divisive.

If my speculation is near accurate, I would say that isn't going to work.

that is all I'm saying.

[StarfishSaver]

56. I gave you a very plausible - and likely - explanation

Yet you still believe that they want to "just let sleeping dogs lie," which is a form of coverup - it means they are willing to use their power to keep important information secret and allow Trump and his crew to get away with their crimes.

I don't assume that if they're not telegraphing their every move and constantly putting detailed information out about highly sensitive and high stakes investigations, it means they're not doing anything with it. But I apparently have more confidence in the Biden administration than you and some others here do.

[msfiddlestix]

59. I have a hell of a lot of confidence in Joe Biden's administration.

On a myriad of vitally important issues and policy matters. He's done far more than I would have ever expected him to attempt and accomplish.

I also understand he is someone who holds a strong, optimistic view and deep desire to pull this country together.

I wish I shared his optimism. I don't see any evidence that is possible with the current cult faction lying about the time of day and the weather forecasts each and every single hour, day, week, month and year.

I believe he feels it's better not to rile up the cult fever by showing the country how and why Trump was a Russian asset, and a traitor to our country. I understand why, but it's not going to move us along the way he thinks it will, imo. ymmv

[StarfishSaver]

34. Or maybe just an ongoing investigation that public release of the report now could jeopardize.

[Sur Zobra]

37. Duers used to say that about Fitzmas

It is bullshit.

[StarfishSaver]

41. Merrick Garland isn't Fitzgerald or Mueller

I've given you reason, which you obviously don't accept.

Why do YOU think the report hasn't been released? Do you think that Garland and Biden are suppressing it, i.e., they are covering up Trump's crimes and are, therefore, as corrupt as Barr?

[StarfishSaver]

30. Probably because there's information in it that is critical to investigations

and making the unredacted report public at this point could jeopardize one or more prosecutions.

But regardless, if the Biden/Garland DOJ has not yet released it, I assume there's a good reason

They have earned more than the benefit of the doubt. I can wait.

[Sur Zobra]

40. Nope. You're wrong.

Remember Fitzmas? Bedtime stories that Duers used to tell one another

[StarfishSaver]

42. I'm wrong? You know this, how?

But I'll bite. Since you seem to have inside information and know the reason, please do tell us why YOU think AG Garland and President Biden haven't released the report.

[Polybius]

71. Lol, you're still waiting for his reply!

[StarfishSaver]

73. Actually, I'm not waiting for a reply because I never expected one.

[Ferrets are Cool]

5. K and R

[Duppers]

7. K & R x 1000

[FakeNoose]

8. Can I get a "Hell yeah!"

[H2O Man]

11. Recommended.

[monkeyman1]

12. every thing need's to come out ! media will have a hay day with it !!

[Evolve Dammit]

13. What are the big, sensitive secrets preventing it's release?? I thought this shit would change

[StarfishSaver]

36. Do you think Garland and Biden are covering something up?

[Evolve Dammit]

69. Something is sure being covered up. This is 4 day old fish in the hot sun IMHO. n/t

[StarfishSaver]

70. So you think Biden and Garland are corrupt

Gotcha.

But many people understand there's a big difference between keeping things confidential for a period of time for a good reason (like not wanting to jeopardize an investigation by putting the targets of the investigation on notice of exactly what the prosecution has on them, tainting the testimony of key witnesses and screwing up the grand jury process) and a "coverup."

[Evolve Dammit]

75. I have no choice but to wait, as we all do. I have grown cynical after watching Bush/Cheney and now

Drumpf ignore the "goddam piece of paper" (Constitution)

[StarfishSaver]

76. Biden and Garland aren't Trump, Bush or Cheney

They deserve time and a benefit of the doubt.

[Evolve Dammit]

78. Acknowledged. I am hopeful.

[Joinfortmill]

14. I think there may be indictments coming.

[triron]

26. Would be great, but not holding my breath.

[dalton99a]

15. It is long overdue.

Declassify and release

[Jakes Progress]

16. Can anyone think of a decent reason Dems are sitting on this? Anyone?

[StarfishSaver]

31. Yes.

The unredacted information is surely critical to ongoing investigations and releasing it to the public right now could jeopardize them.

[AllaN01Bear]

17. im sure this has been asked before , im going to ask again,, why cant a foia act

manuver be done ?
can it be done?

[former9thward]

22. No. FOIA exempts redacted material.

[Kablooie]

18. I remember Mueller saying he carefully edited the report so it wouldn't have to be redacted.

There should be no reason not to.
But someone doesn't like what it says so it will remain secret, I'll bet.

[Baked Potato]

19. Things are real quiet... when the lights come back on ...

I think we will find the roaches stuck on the sticky paper.

[StarfishSaver]

38. Exactly

I just don't understand people's assumption that if they're not looking at it right now or Biden and Garland aren't briefing them daily in every detail, that nothing is happening or, worse, they are hiding something.

[Peregrine Took]

21. I've been saying that for months!

Did they forget about it??? I haven't!

[BSdetect]

23. Months have passed and it should have been released long ago.

This is very troublesome.

[StarfishSaver]

39. Why is it troublesome

Do you suspect that Garland and Biden are corrupt?

[TheRickles]

24. Barr has friends in high places.

This Mueller report issue has been kept quiet, and his role in visiting Epstein before his death has never been investigated. I'd have thought a Dem DOJ would track all this down, but not so far....

[StarfishSaver]

44. So you think Barr got to Garland and Biden?

I can't believe this thread ...

People broke their necks to get Biden elected, but the minute he fails to tuck them in with the bedtime story they're begging to hear ("Read us the Mueller Report, Uncle Joe!!!".), they throw him to the wolves and essentially accuse him of being corrupt and complicit with and/or intimidated by Barr and Trump.

Unreal.

[kacekwl]

28. I'm going to play the both sides game

because I'm getting tired of this shit from both sides. It's getting REALLY hard to depend on anything. Going to be harder to get people motivated to vote when the reasons they voted for are ignored. "Oh well" isn't going to cut it with me anymore.

[BSdetect]

29. k&r

[StarfishSaver]

32. It's more important for the information to be effectively used for investigation, prosecution and

conviction than to risk that by coming out early to satisfy public curiosity.

The need to prosecute these people far outweighs my need to know what's in the report right now. There's nothing I'm going to do with the information at this point, anyway - other than maybe read it and say, "Wow. Just as I thought!"

I trust the Biden Garland Justice Department. And unless people think the administration we busted our butts to put into office is engaged in a massive coverup of Trump's crimes, I don't know why folk aren't willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that there's a good reason for not releasing the redacted report now.

[LymphocyteLover]

45. Yes-- but I do hope Congress gets it ASAP

[StarfishSaver]

46. I'm sure they will

But right now, the most important thing is to do a thorough investigation and produce charges that stick.

[burrowowl]

47. Would be nice and Barr indicted

[Autumn]

48. Muellermas comes after Fitzmas?

[johnthewoodworker]

50. Republican/Nazis won't let people see the report. Period.

[Polybius]

72. We have the White House, Senate, and House

Nothing is stopping us from releasing it now.

[StarfishSaver]

77. If releasing the info could jeopardize the investigation, that is an excellent reason not to release

But some people seem more interested in having their curiosity satisfied than in seeing charges against Trump and his cronies stick.

[samsingh]

55. Yes 100%. Our Democracy is at stake.

[onetexan]

57. +1 -K&R

[Kid Berwyn]

58. Obstruction of Just-Us

There is no good reason to mollycoddle a traitor.

[kacekwl]

60. To me it seems like ongoing investigation is the

answer given when you really mean Whatever. We all know from our kids what whatever means.

[StarfishSaver]

62. So you think the Biden administration is saying "whatever"...

Gotcha.

[Kid Berwyn]

63. Democrats could have called witnesses to Impeachment II.

The nation would have heard Rep. Herrera-Beutler relate how McCarthy pleaded with Trump to call off rioters on prime time TV.

“Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.

A furious McCarthy told the then-President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, “Who the f–k do you think you are talking to?” according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html

So. Instead we got, “Whatever.”

That really does work.

[StarfishSaver]

79. Funny how you heard all of that without any witnesses being called

Probably because it was widely reported, so the nation heard it anyway.

if you think hearing it in the impeachment hearing was going to make any difference, well ...

But if someone's looking for a reason to bash Democrats over nothing, that's as good an excuse as anything else, I guess.

[Kid Berwyn]

80. So disagreeing means "bashing Democrats?"

Isn’t refusing to listen to others what Republicans do? You know, the Big Lie?

[StarfishSaver]

61. You think not releasing the unredacted Mueller report right now "molliecoddles a traitor"?

Would you feel differently if, in a few months, the administration indicts Trump using previously-undisclosed information they gathered from the report? Or would you say, "It doesn't matter that they indicted the traitor because they didn't release the unredacted report in May when I wanted to see it"?

[Kid Berwyn]

66. That'd be great.

Going by Trump’s success in propagating the Big Lie, we are long past the time to start using some of dry powder.

[StarfishSaver]

68. Just because WE haven't heard exactly what they're doing doesn't mean they're keeping their powder

dry.

They're not biding their time waiting for the right opportunity as phrase means. They're very busy but the work they're doing is not done in full public view. Don't assume that they're not doing anything just because because they're not telegraphing their every move to us (and, by definition, to the Republicans and the targets of their investigations).

[Kid Berwyn]

81. And you know this how?

Seems a lot of time has passed since Jan. 6. Lots of new lies to contend with since then, plus a Republican minority that derails progress, as well as investigations. Seen this playbook before.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

64. KR NT

[ProudProgressiveNow]

65. KR NT

[bucolic_frolic]

67. Its release could prejudice a jury pool

There is plenty of time

[StarfishSaver]

74. Not to mentiont taint witnesses and let the investigation's targets know exactly what

is being investigation and what evidence the Prosecutors have or are likely to develop.

But by all means - why not just put it all out there so that frustrated, impatient people can have plenty of red meat to chew on even if their knowing the information yesterday will in no way at all make any positive impact on the outcome of any of this.